Is Rape A-ok now for the folks that support criminal behaviour:support illegals

[ToxicAvenger]

?

where r you gonna draw the line? some criminal behaviour is ok but other is not?

soo ok pot ok? fine by me...

illegals ok....lets make them legal?   ok fine...

then what about cocaine?   make that legal also?


hey...what about rape?...revenge murder?  since we ARE throwing our justice system out...in for a penny..in for a pound eh!


better idea...legalize them all...however make America vote Yay and nay on whether they should be legal or not.

then when the newly legalized commit crimes,rape,murder...need schooling ...welfare....Tax the people that went with yay!

only fair

[Fury]

I said the same thing. If we're giving some criminals amnesty, why not give all criminals amnesty? Are illegals any different from murderers? I'm sure some of them would like another go at things. 

[ToxicAvenger]

? Are illegals any different from murderers?

yes they r BUT....lets not draw the line THAT far....

we can at least make drunk driving legal....drunk drives ocassionally kill people

soo do criminal illegals....

seems to be an equal potence of "bad" with both...lets legalize them both

[Soul Crusher]

People who came here legally and spent years and $$$ doing it the right way are getting pissed upon by the Govt.

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[ToxicAvenger]

People who came here legally and spent years and $$$ doing it the right way are getting pissed upon by the Govt.

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o yeah...and my family and 1 would also like the 80k or so we spent on lawyers doing it legally
thankyou

[Soul Crusher]

No one ever adresses this point! 

Its disgusting that the this criminal JUNTA rewards law breakers and sticks a shiv into the backs of those legal immigrants who did it the right way.     

[Fury]

No one ever adresses this point! 

Its disgusting that the this criminal JUNTA rewards law breakers and sticks a shiv into the backs of those legal immigrants who did it the right way.     

It really is a slap in the face to the people we should be welcoming into this country, not the fucking dirtbags that climb over a fence and then suck the system dry.

[ToxicAvenger]

No one ever adresses this point! 

Its disgusting that the this criminal JUNTA rewards law breakers and sticks a shiv into the backs of those legal immigrants who did it the right way.     

you know HOW much red tape and BULLSHIT and 80 mile drives to and from our lawyer...WHY??  cause my dad bought our business in a CORPORATION name NOT his personal name...and the law states that you must buy the business in the business name...little more than 80k went to solving that problem including our actual business visas

IF this amnesty thing happens i GURANTEE YOU there r  MILLIONS OF INDIANS,PAKISTANIS,AFRICANS,EASTERN EUROPEANS,RUSSIANS SITTING POISED WITH THEIR FINGER ON THE STUDENT AND TOUIRIST VISA BUTTON....THEY'LL ARRIVE...THEY'LL DISAPPEAR...AND 2 YRS DOWN THE ROAD THEY WILL ALSO WANT AMNESTY

[loco]

I do not support illegal immigration, but I don't understand comparing somebody who lives and works in the US illegally with rapists and murderers.  Explain that to me, please!

How many here have driven over the speed limit?  If you have, you broke the law.  Are you a criminal?  Are you at the level of a rapist and a murderer?

[Dos Equis]

I wouldn't compare a working illegal to a rapist, but that person is still a criminal.

What I really disagree with is the notion that we have to grant amnesty because there are too many illegals to deal with.  That is the equivalent of letting criminals go because there isn't enough prison space. 

[loco]

I wouldn't compare a working illegal to a rapist, but that person is still a criminal.

What I really disagree with is the notion that we have to grant amnesty because there are too many illegals to deal with.  That is the equivalent of letting criminals go because there isn't enough prison space.  

Beach,
Why is a working illegal a criminal, while a US citizen driving over the speed limit is not?

I do not support amnesty.

[Soul Crusher]

Beach,
Why is a working illegal a criminal, while a US citizen driving over the speed limit is not?

I do not support amnesty.

Both are criminals, but the penalty is different due to the nature of the offense.   

[Dos Equis]

Beach,
Why is a working illegal a criminal, while a US citizen driving over the speed limit is not?

I do not support amnesty.

A working illegal is a criminal because he/she is violating federal law.  I'm actually assuming there are criminal penalties for violating immigration laws.  (?)

Speeding isn't a crime, unless you go a certain mph over the speed limit (when it becomes reckless driving, or something like that).

[loco]

A working illegal is a criminal because he/she is violating federal law.  I'm actually assuming there are criminal penalties for violating immigration laws.  (?)

Speeding isn't a crime, unless you go a certain mph over the speed limit (when it becomes reckless driving, or something like that).

I see!  To answer your question:


8 U.S.C. § 1325 : US Code - Section 1325: Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection;
misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States
at any time or place other than as designated by immigration
officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration
officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United
States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the
willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or
imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or
imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to
enter) the United States at a time or place other than as
designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil
penalty of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or
attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of
an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under
this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not
in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be
imposed.
(c) Marriage fraud
Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the
purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be
imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than
$250,000, or both.
(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise
for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws
shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance
with title 18, or both.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/12/II/VIII/1325

[Dos Equis]

I see!  To answer your question:


8 U.S.C. § 1325 : US Code - Section 1325: Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection;
misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States
at any time or place other than as designated by immigration
officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration
officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United
States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the
willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or
imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent
commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or
imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to
enter) the United States at a time or place other than as
designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil
penalty of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or
attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of
an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under
this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not
in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be
imposed.
(c) Marriage fraud
Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the
purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be
imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than
$250,000, or both.
(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise
for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws
shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance
with title 18, or both.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/12/II/VIII/1325

Good find.  Thanks.