Study: Illegal Immigrants Not Drawn by Jobs

[tonymctones]

Yeah they come here to live in 'middle class' poverty 

You are complicit when you post the title as YOUR title.  This is YOUR thread not the washington posts.  By posting that title as also YOUR title YOU are arguing that it is correct and true.  It is in fact not and you hide behind 'i didn't write it' theory.  Oh really so the Washington post logged in under your handle and started a thread with that title?

LOL again poverty to us is middle class to them...

the average annual household income for mexico is about $7000
the average annual benefits from welfare is about $7000 and goes up with kids...

so for someone who lives in poverty in mexico to come here and live in poverty its a BIG IMPROVEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tonymctones]

Cut the BS already.  The article you posted does not support your argument or the title.  It actually does the opposite.  It clearly states that the reason illegal immigrants go to the US is for:

"improvement of earnings"

"improved working conditions"

"rejoining families"

LOL you guys need to get off the title I didnt make that shit up it was the title of the article...get over it

again eliminating employers of illegals wont eliminate illegals it also says that there are other reasons for them to come over...

[tonymctones]

A $10k fine per illegal WILL stop a shitload of companies form hiring illegals.

And as you know, illegals leave when there is no work.

I don't follow your logic here, but hey, we can agree to disagree

LOL what about those that dont come here to work 240?

you wont stop all companies from hiring illegals...

another scenario...many illegals dont work for the company but are independent contractors contracted by the company...so they technically arent hiring illegals they are hiring a company that uses illegals...

are you going to prosecute one company for another companies employment practices?

[loco]

LOL you guys need to get off the title I didnt make that shit up it was the title of the article...get over it

again eliminating employers of illegals wont eliminate illegals it also says that there are other reasons for them to come over...

The article you posted does not support your argument.  It actually does the opposite.  It clearly states that the reason illegal immigrants go to the US is for:

"improvement of earnings"

"improved working conditions"

"rejoining families"

[240 is Back]

LOL what about those that dont come here to work 240?

you wont stop all companies from hiring illegals...

another scenario...many illegals dont work for the company but are independent contractors contracted by the company...so they technically arent hiring illegals they are hiring a company that uses illegals...

are you going to prosecute one company for another companies employment practices?

I didn't say cutting jobs would send 100% of them home.

But we do konw (from DHS stats) that 7% of them left last year voluntarily because there were no jobs for them.

And that's with the current lax ICE employer enforcement.  You do that aggressively for a few years, and I bet a lot more than 7% leave.

And that "company hiring a company".... Um, ICE can audit temp agencies too dude

[tonymctones]

I didn't say cutting jobs would send 100% of them home.

But we do konw (from DHS stats) that 7% of them left last year voluntarily because there were no jobs for them.

And that's with the current lax ICE employer enforcement.  You do that aggressively for a few years, and I bet a lot more than 7% leave.

And that "company hiring a company".... Um, ICE can audit temp agencies too dude

LOL it was 4% yesterday is it going to be 10% tomorrow? 

they arent temp agencies bro they are independent contractors...they dont go through agencies...

so again are you going to prosecute companies for other companies employee practices?

[240 is Back]

LOL it was 4% yesterday is it going to be 10% tomorrow? 

they arent temp agencies bro they are independent contractors...they dont go through agencies...

so again are you going to prosecute companies for other companies employee practices?

So independent contractors are not privy to ICE audits?

[tonymctones]

The article you posted does not support your argument.  It actually does the opposite.  It clearly states that the reason illegal immigrants go to the US is for:

"improvement of earnings"

"improved working conditions"

"rejoining families"

LOL bro if they came here simply for jobs they would have stayed in mexico b/c they had jobs...they came here for a impovement in life which includes many other things other than a job...

[tonymctones]

So independent contractors are not privy to ICE audits?

LOL how do you tell which one is illegal?

I know you dont want one american citizen to be inconvienced after I know your stance on giving up liberty to gain safety...

LOL bro this really shows that youre so uninformed on this subject...

if I hire you as a independent contractor I can pay you in check or cash what have you and all I have to do is give you a 1099 misc at the end of the year...I dont have to make sure you report your earnings to the irs, as long as i record my payments to you im clear...you can go cash that check at just about any local gas station and not report anything...how are you going to find these ppl?

[loco]

LOL bro if they came here simply for jobs they would have stayed in mexico b/c they had jobs...they came here for a impovement in life which includes many other things other than a job...

But the article you posted said the reason for them going to the US is jobs, jobs with higher wages and better working conditions.  It says in the US they make double what they make in Mexico, plus they get better working conditions.

[tonymctones]

LOL how do you tell which one is illegal?

I know you dont want one american citizen to be inconvienced after I know your stance on giving up liberty to gain safety...

LOL bro this really shows that youre so uninformed on this subject...

if I hire you as a independent contractor I can pay you in check or cash what have you and all I have to do is give you a 1099 misc at the end of the year...I dont have to make sure you report your earnings to the irs, as long as i record my payments to you im clear...you can go cash that check at just about any local gas station and not report anything...how are you going to find these ppl?

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