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Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« on: July 20, 2010, 06:19:26 PM »
 ???

He's supposed to be the chosen one and he's won 2 shows in the last 4 years.
BTW that 2008 win the Ironman...aka scrub show now.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2010, 06:34:14 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on July 20, 2010, 06:19:26 PM
???

He's supposed to be the chosen one and he's won 2 shows in the last 4 years.
BTW that 2008 win the Ironman...aka scrub show now.


Shawn Ray only won 2 contests in 12 years ! Phil's ahead of the game , second place at this years Arnold.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 06:58:42 PM »
Yeah, but Heath as the structure to be a Shawn Ray and better...He should stay a top 5 guy at the Olympia most of his career
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2010, 07:05:17 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on July 20, 2010, 06:19:26 PM
???

He's supposed to be the chosen one and he's won 2 shows in the last 4 years.
BTW that 2008 win the Ironman...aka scrub show now.

he won his first 2 shows and then ironman,and top 2 arnold classics and mr o top 5 twice pretty good.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2010, 07:06:11 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on July 20, 2010, 06:19:26 PM
???

He's supposed to be the chosen one and he's won 2 shows in the last 4 years.
BTW that 2008 win the Ironman...aka scrub show now.

The Chosen ones somehow never win the big one. Shawn, Levrone, and of course the epitome of the Chosen One, Flex Wheeler.

Hopefully, Phil can break that streak.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2010, 07:06:49 PM »
Quote from: ThaRealist on July 20, 2010, 06:58:42 PM
Yeah, but Heath as the structure to be a Shawn Ray and better...He should stay a top 5 guy at the Olympia most of his career

He doesn't have the structure to be better than Shawn overall. Bigger arms he can have.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2010, 07:08:04 PM »
He's doing better than most pro's that started at the same time
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2010, 07:24:05 PM »
if where talking history of guys turning pro and not winning the arnold or mr o but winning smaller shows from the get go well porter cotrell and mike francois come to mind,porter had major hype from weider camp and he turned pro with kev and that was good rivalry from start.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2010, 11:14:51 PM »
i got brandy leaver for bikini O.



vic is the chosen one and got the best potential in terms of a cheering section.



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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2010, 12:56:46 AM »
I like Phil..but there is absolutely no comparison to Sean as he is one of the ALL time greats

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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2010, 01:27:10 AM »
Phil could have 8 titles right now if he crushed everyone at the smaller shows.

It's more $$$ profitable to just do the big ones.  if he got got the flu and ended up third at the hartford Pro, he'd be less marketable.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2010, 03:59:13 AM »
Quote from: ThaRealist on July 20, 2010, 06:58:42 PM
Yeah, but Heath as the structure to be a Shawn Ray and better...He should stay a top 5 guy at the Olympia most of his career

I beg to differ. Heath has a porr structure and even if Ray's wasn't perfect, he not only hadmore potential but he achieved it. But I must say that Heath seem to be really making the right adjusments to be the best he can. Doesn't mean he will be Mr O but considering other factors (young and potentially a good rep once Jay is done) there's a veru good chance he'll have it at one point.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2010, 04:07:34 AM »
Epic Wiggs trying to kill the hype of potential Kai threats lol.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2010, 04:14:02 AM »
Quote from: Swede! on July 21, 2010, 04:07:34 AM
Epic Wiggs trying to kill the hype of potential Kai threats lol.

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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2010, 04:25:24 AM »
Wolf makes him look like the brown child he is.....
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2010, 04:32:13 AM »
Quote from: webcake on July 21, 2010, 04:25:24 AM
Wolf makes him look like the brown child he is.....

No he doesn't.  Wolfe is done.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2010, 04:33:55 AM »
Quote from: Wiggs on July 21, 2010, 04:32:13 AM
No he doesn't.  Wolfe is done.

Watch your mouth, convict!!  >:( >:(
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2010, 04:38:19 AM »
Quote from: webcake on July 21, 2010, 04:25:24 AM
Wolf makes him look like the brown child he is.....
Wolfe=Lazy A yran. A sheep in Wolf's clothing. All hype, no bite.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2010, 04:39:05 AM »
Quote from: Wiggs on July 21, 2010, 04:32:13 AM
No he doesn't.  Wolfe is done.

if wolf is willing to train heavy again, and get his diet down, he will be top 5 at the olympia for years. His frame is an X. He needs to be 265 and ripped (at his last show he was way down to 245)
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2010, 04:44:07 AM »
Quote from: Swede! on July 21, 2010, 04:07:34 AM
Epic Wiggs trying to kill the hype of potential Kai threats lol.

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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2010, 04:50:54 AM »
Quote from: Royalty on July 21, 2010, 04:39:05 AM
if wolf is willing to train heavy again, and get his diet down, he will be top 5 at the olympia for years. His frame is an X. He needs to be 265 and ripped (at his last show he was way down to 245)

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he is the only other blond guy outside of jay.  he knows it.  the 1st sentence guarantees him a mthly check as long as he can quality in 3rd place at a 10k show n place last at the O.  when bsn is tired...another sponsor will pick him up.  it must be good and profitable to be a poor man's jay cutler.   
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2010, 05:06:20 AM »
Quote from: G_Thang on July 21, 2010, 04:50:54 AM
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he is the only other blond guy outside of jay.  he knows it.  the 1st sentence guarantees him a mthly check as long as he can quality in 3rd place at a 10k show n place last at the O.  when bsn is tired...another sponsor will pick him up.  it must be good and profitable to be a poor man's jay cutler.   

3 years ago he was 5th in the world

2 years ago he was 4th in the world

in the past year he has screwed up with his diet twice but his world-class potential remains.
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Re: Phil Heath's last win was in 2008 before that 2006...discuss.
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2010, 02:25:08 PM »
Quote from: Royalty on July 21, 2010, 05:06:20 AM
3 years ago he was 5th in the world

2 years ago he was 4th in the world

in the past year he has screwed up with his diet twice but his world-class potential remains.

once you run out of gas...momentum can only get you so far.  wolfe is toast, re-fried beans.  his tank was empty at 5th, the momentum got him to 4th.  that's ok in his case.  being a tall blond guy with no calves among short negros with no calves makes him a commodity.  an O qualification n last place guarantees him six figures in endorsements...which is damn good.

bravo wolfe for playing a system that usually plays the bbers.
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