Stim-Free Fat Burners:

[Montague]

For anyone else unaware - as I was until last night - there is no longer a 4-character minimum on the GetBig search engine.
That means you can now search for threads about Max-OT, CLA, and IFBB pro Amy Fry.

Thanks, Ron!

Speaking of CLA…
I was about to start a thread on Conjugated Linoleic Acid before discovering I could search it.
Some posters who I consider pretty knowledgeable denounced it as something to stay away from.

So...
What are considered the best (safest/most effective) stimulant-free OTC fat burners on the market these days?

Clinical & anecdotal information is welcome.

[NaturalWonder83]

i think controlled labs makes a stim free nightime fat burner
reduction pm

[Montague]

I'll check it out.
Thanks.

[Princess L]

Any reviews?

[Montague]

I’m not sure what everything does, but I see a few ingredients that I know from experience do little to nothing for me - and I doubt they’d be the only ones on these labels.
That’s one reason I shy away from “blends.”
I’m not crazy about spending extra money on things that don’t benefit me.

The daytime serving also contains 200mg, which I’m trying to avoid.
I already consume caffeine at specific times throughout my day and am not looking to add more.

I’m also researching this for my cousin’s husband, who has been suffering heart palpitations and has been ordered off the caffeine.


AM (Red) Tablets

Supplement Facts 
Serving Size:2 tablets
Servings per Container: 60 

 
Ingredient Amount % Daily Value**
Red Sweat Thermo Complex 380mg †
-Raspberry Ketones   
-Big Red (Cayenne Fruit Extract)   
-Citrus Aurantium Extract   
-Bioperine (Piper Nigrum)   
STIMuSLIM 1700mg †
-PEA   
-Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid   
-Taraxacum Officinale Extract   
-Natural Caffeine 200mg 
-Isobutyryl-Thiamine Disulfide   
-Cocoa Bean   
-Citrus Aurantium Extract   
 
** Percent Daily Value is based on a 2000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
† Daily Value not established. 


PM (Black) Tablets

Supplement Facts 
Serving Size:2 tablets
Servings per Container: 60 

 
Ingredient Amount % Daily Value**
HungeReduction Complex 925mg †
-Cordia Salicifolia Extract   
-Raspberry Ketones   
-Ginger Root   
-Big Red (Cayenne Fruit Extract)   
-Olive Leaf   
SLEEP n' SLIM Complex 1300mg †
-Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid   
-Taraxacum Officinale Extract   
-Valeriana Officinalis Root Extract   
-L-Theanine   
-Griffonia Seed Extract   
 
** Percent Daily Value is based on a 2000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
† Daily Value not established. 

[tonymctones]

whats with the CLA monty? ive been using it for about a month now maybe about 3 weeks and I actually think it is making a difference...

im the same way though i cant take alot of stimulants

[Montague]

I remember you and I had a conversation about this a short while ago.
I’ll always admit when I make a mistake, and concerning our discussion, I did not have all of the information.

Anecdotal data suggests that more than a few people have experienced favorable results with supplemental CLA.
However, there is conflicting information regarding its effectiveness & (long term) safety.

You guys are talking about 2 different forms of CLA.  The naturally occurring trans fat and the manufactured cla from plant sources.

Linoleic acid is found in vegetable oils, whereas the conjugated variety, CLA is found primarily in meat and dairy products. The form of CLA found most commonly in dietary supplements is manufactured from vegetable oils such as sunflower oil.

CLA IS a trans fat (you said that - I agree)  It's naturally occurring.  And it might be beneficial.
The CLA sold as a supplement is manufactured from veg oil.  Useless & maybe harmful.

You can read the rest here: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=205741.0


Tony,
I remember that you’re taking a product containing a combination of other ingredients, and I’m wondering if some/all of them are working synergistically to compliment the CLA or vice versa.
Regardless, it’s good to know it’s working for you and I‘m happy you found a product that‘s providing you your desired results.

[NaturalWonder83]

Any reviews?

i used it in may of 09
i had real good steady energy w the day time reduction pills
with the nightime pm it had gaba in it-and i def slept better
i lost some weight w it-nothing amazing

after a few weeks i think it wore off

[benchmstr]

DNP...

bench

[Montague]

Now you're talking!

[benchmstr]

Now you're talking!

overkill is underated...

bench

[pac-man]

Unfortunately I have yet to find anything stim free that is worthwhile. 

The night time reduction formula, for example, dosnt seem to have much other than sleep aids.  Granted the sleep aids may help when your dieting as i do find it difficult to sleep at times when the calories and carbs are low. 

Regardless none of the ingredients seem to directly affect metabolism and fat loss.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Save your money and simply eat well and exercise.  Plain and simple.

[MM2K]

Lean System 7 worked very well for me. There is a new more advanced version available called MX-LS7. The main ingredient is 7 Keto, which is a derivative of DHEA. It provides all the benefits of DHEA without the side effects. I think the 7 Keto helps you maintain muscle mass while you burn fat. Also, you can try just regular 7 Keto by itself. I think another fat burner with 7 Keto is Andro Phex.