in regards to hg vs ug

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

once again, dave jacobs was running a UGL in his basement and supplying to half the top pros in the IFBB.............and EVERYONE raved about his shit

i understand HG is preferable, but UG, if manufactured honestly and correctly , is just as good ................if it was good enough for branch warren and quincy taylor, its good enough for anyone This is a blanket statement. There are good UGL's and horrible UGL's not only with the correct amount of the steroid, but the contaminants found each vial


that the fuck are you talking about, there is no such thing as hg 50mg anavar.............and further more, why would his opinion on a 50 mg tablet of anavar be any different then his opinion of 10 5mg anavar tabs

anavar is useless for your purposes anyway, its for girls, and unless your a top competitor or a rich guy that can afford to take the correct amount it would be worthless to you................im willing to bet you look like garbage,,,,,,,stop wasting your time and money trying to get anavar cause some idiot friend of yours told you it was safe.........cause your a pussy


and why dont you stop being a lazy fuck and pick up  a fucking anabolic reference guide, adn do some reading instead of bringing your questions to gh15 like some lazy fuck/.........that goes for all you lazy fucks, how about picking up a fucking book and stop bothering people with:

 "GH i want to do steroids , but i am a fucking pussy, so if i take  a quarter tablet of anavar every other day, will i see gains?"

x2 Why do you think they call it anavar clit?

[~UN_$ung~]

1.  you are wrong, there is HG anavar available in 50mg tabs.  do your homework douche.

2.  I did not ask "un sung fag,"  I asked the God of Hormones.

well consider this information free you fat pussy...............you probably dont look like you workout, you lazy fat fuck...........but wanna try anavar cause you heard it was the "safe" steroid

you know NOTHING..........its idiots like you that give steroids a bad name


plus there is no legit pharma companies makin g50 mg anavar.............its made underground labs

[Van_Bilderass]

once again, dave jacobs was running a UGL in his basement and supplying to half the top pros in the IFBB.............and EVERYONE raved about his shit

i understand HG is preferable, but UG, if manufactured honestly and correctly , is just as good ................if it was good enough for branch warren and quincy taylor, its good enough for anyone

Pros can be just like any other bodybuilders - stupid. Really fucking stupid. OTOH one top pro, as in winning IFBB shows recently, told a friend of mine a while ago how he doesn't use any "UG shit", HG all the way. Now I'm sure he has to go UG for some compounds but obviously always prefers pharma gear. Another pro told me, as we were discussing his future plans and goals, "you know as well as I do, VB, that how well I do all depends on if I can get the best HG gear and GH instead of that China shit. On my level this is really the deciding factor". So not every pro raves about UG.

Do you ever go on Llewellyn's site? I can't confirm if what someone says on there regarding UG powders is true since I'm not in the pharma industry but some of these guys seem to know what they talk about. Stuff like how most powders come from chemical houses and not real pharmaceutical manufacturers. The stuff is crap (relatively speaking) most of the time.

This "Dragunov" guy seems to know what he's talking about. See this post for example. How you need a pharma licence to import the good stuff and how most "top" UG labs don't even know the basics of how to make a quality end product:
http://www.bodyofscience.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62231&postcount=13

Now, how did Dave Jacobs know his batches were pure, contaminant free, high quality powders? I don't see how he could. Just like anyone operating a kitchen lab like that. There is zero quality assurance despite the best intentions. I bet Jacobs was really really small fry in the UG market anyway.

[theworm]

well consider this information free you fat pussy...............you probably dont look like you workout, you lazy fat fuck...........but wanna try anavar cause you heard it was the "safe" steroid

you know NOTHING..........its idiots like you that give steroids a bad name


plus there is no legit pharma companies makin g50 mg anavar.............its made underground labs

wow man, whats wrong with you?   You NEED to get laid, ASAP!   

and yes, there is real HG anavar 50mg, so you don't know shit.  nice try though, son.

[~UN_$ung~]

Pros can be just like any other bodybuilders - stupid. Really fucking stupid. OTOH one top pro, as in winning IFBB shows recently, told a friend of mine a while ago how he doesn't use any "UG shit", HG all the way. Now I'm sure he has to go UG for some compounds but obviously always prefers pharma gear. So not every pro raves about UG.

Do you ever go on Llewellyn's site? I can't confirm if what someone says on there regarding UG powders is true since I'm not in the pharma industry but some of these guys seem to know what they talk about. Stuff like how most powders come from chemical houses and not real pharmaceutical manufacturers. The stuff is crap (relatively speaking) most of the time.

This "Dragunov" guy seems to know what he's talking about. See this post for example. How you need a pharma licence to import the good stuff and how most "top" UG labs don't even know the basics of how to make a quality end product:
http://www.bodyofscience.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62231&postcount=13

Now, how did Dave Jacobs know his batches were pure, contaminant free, high quality powders? I don't see how he could. Just like anyone operating a kitchen lab like that. There is zero quality assurance despite the best intentions. I bet Jacobs was really really small fry in the UG market anyway.

he might have been a "small fry" he wasnt running a big ugl  like axio or Ip or QV.............he was arunnign a small operation and supplying his friends for the most part



im not a chemist...........but i have seen steroids made many many times................in the scale of complex chemistry............mak ing steroids is not very difficult.,

[thelamefalsehood]

well consider this information free you fat pussy...............you probably dont look like you workout, you lazy fat fuck...........but wanna try anavar cause you heard it was the "safe" steroid

you know NOTHING..........its idiots like you that give steroids a bad name


plus there is no legit pharma companies makin g50 mg anavar.............its made underground labs

Not in the traditional sense of Upjohn, Spa, Watson, etc., but with rejuvenation clinics. Clinics can make any HG steroid approved by the FDA(which anavar is) in any composition they please, regardless of mg and what not

[SgtSpar]

What a bunch of shit.  I guess no one should use tren or EQ cuz they aren't "HG", whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean.

[4thAD]

Not in the traditional sense of Upjohn, Spa, Watson, etc., but with rejuvenation clinics. Clinics can make any HG steroid approved by the FDA(which anavar is) in any composition they please, regardless of mg and what not

Tis true, but still human grade gear.

[Van_Bilderass]

Not in the traditional sense of Upjohn, Spa, Watson, etc., but with rejuvenation clinics. Clinics can make any HG steroid approved by the FDA(which anavar is) in any composition they please, regardless of mg and what not

Tis true, but still human grade gear.

My impression is that a lot of these clinics are shady operations and a lot of their raws are smuggled in, instead of declared, just like UG labs do. So the question is, is it any better than UG? I mean some clinics even offer trenbolone. You just know a clinic that does this isn't completely on the up and up.

[theworm]

My impression is that a lot of these clinics are shady operations and a lot of their raws are smuggled in, instead of declared, just like UG labs do. So the question is, is it any better than UG? I mean some clinics even offer trenbolone. You just know a clinic that does this isn't completely on the up and up.

just like any biz in the us!  Just like a car dealership, some are shady as shit, others somewhat repectable.   

many HRT clinics are completely legit with real doc consultations, blood work, and reasonable doses (no way near a "cycle", jusy enough for replacement).  The cost is that they can be very expensive.