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Nadler Dismantles Right-Wing Arguments Against Mosque: ‘We Do Not Put The Bill Of Rights…Up To A Vote’

This morning on CNN’s State of the Union, New York congressmen Jerrold Nadler (D) effectively dismantled the arguments of his fellow Empire State colleague Peter King (R), who has been one of the most outspoken opponents of the new Islamic center project in lower Manhattan.

King argued that, while he respects Muslims’ “right” to build a new center, “they should listen to public opinion” and “should voluntarily move the mosque away from Ground Zero.” Nadler, the chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, explained, “We do not put the Bill of Rights…to a vote. The reason we have a Bill of Rights is that you have your religious rights…whether majorities like you or not, frankly.”

Nadler then addressed the biggest fallacy of the right-wing argument: namely, that in their opposition to the Islamic center, they are ascribing collective guilt on all Muslims for the terrorist acts of 9/11:

NADLER: What they are saying essentially is how can you put a mosque there when, after all, Muslims attacked us on 9/11, and this is ripping open a wound? Well, the fallacy is that Al Qaida attacked us. Islam did not attack us. Islam, like Christianity, like Judaism, like other religions, has many different people, some of whom regard other adherents of the religion as heretics of one sort or another. It is only insensitive if you regard Islam as the culprit, as opposed to Al Qaida as the culprit. We were not attacked by all Muslims. And there were Muslims who were killed there, there were Muslims who were killed there. There were Muslims who ran in as first responders to help. And we cannot take any position like that.

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"there were Muslims who were killed there. There were Muslims who ran in as first responders to help."

nader makes a good point here.

I can agree (somewhat) with those who say "this PARTICULAR group has impure intentions, so they shouldn't be able to build here".  It's limiting freedom of religion, but doing it because they feel it's a hateful small group trying to build.

Those who say "No MULSIMS should be allowed to build here" - that's just silly.  There are peaceful and violent muslims, just as there are peaceful and violent christians.  I'm not a muslim, so it doesn't affect me - but I do worry about a govt given a free pass to pick/choose which religions can practice where.  Cause it's only another step or two until they're picking/choosing which political groups can practice where.  Hell, one militia type blows up a truck somewhere, and you've given obama blanket power to "move" all the tea party assemblies to alaska (or whatever distance).

People are okay with this cause it doesn't affect them - YET.

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"there were Muslims who were killed there. There were Muslims who ran in as first responders to help."

nader makes a good point here.

I can agree (somewhat) with those who say "this PARTICULAR group has impure intentions, so they shouldn't be able to build here".  It's limiting freedom of religion, but doing it because they feel it's a hateful small group trying to build.

Those who say "No MULSIMS should be allowed to build here" - that's just silly.  There are peaceful and violent muslims, just as there are peaceful and violent christians.  I'm not a muslim, so it doesn't affect me - but I do worry about a govt given a free pass to pick/choose which religions can practice where.  Cause it's only another step or two until they're picking/choosing which political groups can practice where.  Hell, one militia type blows up a truck somewhere, and you've given obama blanket power to "move" all the tea party assemblies to alaska (or whatever distance).

People are okay with this cause it doesn't affect them - YET.

Wrong. No one is denying them the right to practice Islam.