From Scratch

[Mr.CIP]

Whats up guys? One of my buddies from work turned me onto this site for some help and knowledge. Iive been doing a lot of research and even found a source. What i need some help with is WHAT to use for my first cycle. I know it will be injectables. In all of your experiances knowing what you know now, what would you run for a first cycle? My goal is straight bulking. Any input would be very appreciated. Thanks.

[Mr.CIP]

From what i have read my stats would be very helpful so here they are:

25 yrs old
5'6"
176 pounds(been stuck there for 6 months)
11% BF
Lifting for 3 years
Goal weight to reach is roughly all of it
Caloric intake roughly 4000 CAD
Protien 1-1.5gr/ppbw
Never used AAS(Obviously)
Have dabbled in "Pro-hormones"(Didnt like em)
I have an EXTREMELY difficult time gaining and at times even maintaining weight.

Hopefully that is somewhat helpful. If there is anything else you feel you would like to know please hit me up.

[delta9mda]

test e, 16 weeks, 500mg per week.

arimidex during cycle for anti-estrogen (not sure of the dose but some bros here will chime in)

then there is post cycle therapy that others will give advice on

[Master Blaster]

From what i have read my stats would be very helpful so here they are:

25 yrs old
5'6"
176 pounds(been stuck there for 6 months)
11% BF
Lifting for 3 years
Goal weight to reach is roughly all of it
Caloric intake roughly 4000 CAD
Protien 1-1.5gr/ppbw
Never used AAS(Obviously)
Have dabbled in "Pro-hormones"(Didnt like em)
I have an EXTREMELY difficult time gaining and at times even maintaining weight.

Hopefully that is somewhat helpful. If there is anything else you feel you would like to know please hit me up.

Just curious about the weight gain, are there issues with your appetite or do you have a high metabolism?

[Mr.CIP]

VERY high metabolism. Appetite is off the chain.

[Mr.CIP]

test e, 16 weeks, 500mg per week.

arimidex during cycle for anti-estrogen (not sure of the dose but some bros here will chime in)

then there is post cycle therapy that others will give advice on

I was also thinking just test this being my first experiance. Thank you.

[Luolamies]

Test e, c or sust 500 mg week 16 weeks
Dianabol 30 mg per day 6 week
Nolvadex starting at two weeks 10 mg per day
+ Pct two week after last test shot Clomid 50 mg per day 3 weeks + Hcg 500 i.u. every three days.

That to me looks pretty optimal and it's a very normal cycle, even though i'd say (and i'm surely alone here) that it's somewhat heavy, but the reason for this kind of cycle is your very low body weight.

[Mr.CIP]

Awesome. That sounds like putting on weight would not be an issue. I like it. Thanks a lot.

[Mr.CIP]

The HCG for 3 weeks also?

[MuscleMcMannus]

You've been lifting for 3 years and you're 25 years old and you're ready for steroids?    It took me 3 years to put on 20lbs of muscle naturally.  Don't sell yourself short kid.  You've got plenty of time for roids.  Train natural and eat your ass off.  Wait a little longer.  3 years in the grand scheme is like a blimp in your training potential.  

[Mr.CIP]

I know its not that long. Thats about how much ive put on in the last 3 years too. so you must know the frustration. im strong as all hell but putting on size is next to impossible. or so it feels.

[MuscleMcMannus]

I know its not that long. Thats about how much ive put on in the last 3 years too. so you must know the frustration. im strong as all hell but putting on size is next to impossible. or so it feels.

I can guarantee you are not eating enough.  Putting on size should never be a problem.  It's easy to get big........now big and lean is a different story. 

[Luolamies]

I can guarantee you are not eating enough.  Putting on size should never be a problem.  It's easy to get big........now big and lean is a different story. 

True.

The HCG for 3 weeks also?

Yes.

[flinstones1]

the only reason I train is so I can take gear. why else workout? Your not getting anywhere anyways without em.

[Arnold jr]

I know you didn't ask but give this diet a once over and see how you do for a little while:

http://www.probodybuilding.com/bodybuilding-diet-male-intermediate.php

As for the cycle, test only will work well, some added dbol won't hurt anything.

[Mr.CIP]

Thanks to all for the advice. It is much appreciated. I have a couple of options for sources. There is a website that i am curious to know if anybody has had any luck or problems with though. I havent come across any posts of it yet. IDK if i can put it on hear or not though. PM?

[Luolamies]

Thanks to all for the advice. It is much appreciated. I have a couple of options for sources. There is a website that i am curious to know if anybody has had any luck or problems with though. I havent come across any posts of it yet. IDK if i can put it on hear or not though. PM?

And you won't since this is not an open source board and it's against the rules to post sources...

[Mr.CIP]

And you won't since this is not an open source board and it's against the rules to post sources...

Point made.

ArnoldJr-Thank you for the diet. That was extremely helpful. Similar to my current diet but definitely more along the lines of what i need i think.