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Re: Dad Confronts Abortion Protesters
« Reply #100 on: October 27, 2010, 09:15:52 AM »
Why is it that pro choice people always try to put words in my mouth?

In a previous post I EXPLICTLY STATED that in cases of rape/incest, danger to the mother's health, or if the kid is just so damn young, I think abortion is a viable, MORAL option.

When I say all or nothing what I mean is that you cannot enforce a law that examines abortion on a case by case basis.  It is logistically impossible.  Every person that gets an abortion can give you a reason that killing the baby is better than them not having it.  You cannot possibly weed out the people who deserve abortions from those who do not.  Fuck, if someone is thinking about killing their baby, should they then raise it?  

So to answer your question, in my perfect world, men and women would take responsibility for the lives that they create. If something were to happen similar to the case that this thread was originally talking about, then I believe that an abortion is acceptable.

Roe v Wade was passed for this reason.  So that people in those kinds of situations had an option.  The law has been abused by people who think along the same lines as TU in that abortion is NOT a last resort.  It is now a form of birth control.  

And TU takes it a step further and wants to present abortion as something that contributes to the greater good of society.  It is this line of reasoning (if thats what you want to call it) that I take issue with.   This is exactly what conservatives were worried about back in 1973.  Liberals told them that they were fucking nuts and that there is no way that our country's moral compass would ever reach that kind of low.  Well look where we are now.  
Who the fuck made you the moral police..

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Re: Dad Confronts Abortion Protesters
« Reply #101 on: October 27, 2010, 09:17:34 AM »
Who the fuck made you the moral police..

this is a thread where we discuss OUR OPINIONS on the morality of abortion.  If you cannot handle hearing someone elses opinion GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD.

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Re: Dad Confronts Abortion Protesters
« Reply #102 on: October 27, 2010, 09:18:52 AM »
Who the fuck made you the moral police..

question.  do you really think my opinion is that out of touch?  what is wrong with expecting people to take responsibility for lives that they created?

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Re: Dad Confronts Abortion Protesters
« Reply #103 on: October 27, 2010, 09:21:29 AM »
this is a thread where we discuss OUR OPINIONS on the morality of abortion.  If you cannot handle hearing someone elses opinion GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD.

I think its immoral that you typed fuck...lets make a law against it

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Re: Dad Confronts Abortion Protesters
« Reply #104 on: October 27, 2010, 09:23:09 AM »
question.  do you really think my opinion is that out of touch?  what is wrong with expecting people to take responsibility for lives that they created?
Nothing wrong with your opinion. Only selfish, conceited, morally bankrupt individuals would consider your opinion out of the realm of common sense.

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Re: Dad Confronts Abortion Protesters
« Reply #105 on: October 27, 2010, 09:30:01 AM »
Why is it that pro choice people always try to put words in my mouth?

In a previous post I EXPLICTLY STATED that in cases of rape/incest, danger to the mother's health, or if the kid is just so damn young, I think abortion is a viable, MORAL option.

When I say all or nothing what I mean is that you cannot enforce a law that examines abortion on a case by case basis.  It is logistically impossible.  Every person that gets an abortion can give you a reason that killing the baby is better than them not having it.  You cannot possibly weed out the people who deserve abortions from those who do not.  Fuck, if someone is thinking about killing their baby, should they then raise it?  

So to answer your question, in my perfect world, men and women would take responsibility for the lives that they create. If something were to happen similar to the case that this thread was originally talking about, then I believe that an abortion is acceptable.

Roe v Wade was passed for this reason.  So that people in those kinds of situations had an option.  The law has been abused by people who think along the same lines as TU in that abortion is NOT a last resort.  It is now a form of birth control.  

And TU takes it a step further and wants to present abortion as something that contributes to the greater good of society.  It is this line of reasoning (if thats what you want to call it) that I take issue with.   This is exactly what conservatives were worried about back in 1973.  Liberals told them that they were fucking nuts and that there is no way that our country's moral compass would ever reach that kind of low.  Well look where we are now.  
A. I don't consider myself prochoice, you consider me pro choice because I think there are exceptions like if the baby is going to be dead on arrival anyway.  So I'm pro sane.

B. I didn't put words in your mouth, when I asked you about what seemed to be a contradiction in thinking: (there are valid reasons for an abortion vs. everyone or no one.)  You appeared to advocate that you might believe there are exceptions but they are not enforceable: QUOTE from you: "there is a difference between what is right and wrong and what is enforceable and unenforceable.  The problem with any law is that there will always be exceptions that don't necessarily fall on one side or the other of any law.

Now you know the only exceptions I have been talking about the whole time are the extreme things like the baby will be dead, the mother will die etc.  So as you see, I didn't put any words in your mouth.

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Re: Dad Confronts Abortion Protesters
« Reply #106 on: October 27, 2010, 09:30:29 AM »
Nothing wrong with your opinion. Only selfish, conceited, morally bankrupt individuals would consider your opinion out of the realm of common sense.
Why is it that pro choice people always try to put words in my mouth?

In a previous post I EXPLICTLY STATED that in cases of rape/incest, danger to the mother's health, or if the kid is just so damn young, I think abortion is a viable, MORAL option.

When I say all or nothing what I mean is that you cannot enforce a law that examines abortion on a case by case basis.  It is logistically impossible.  Every person that gets an abortion can give you a reason that killing the baby is better than them not having it.  You cannot possibly weed out the people who deserve abortions from those who do not.  Fuck, if someone is thinking about killing their baby, should they then raise it?  

So to answer your question, in my perfect world, men and women would take responsibility for the lives that they create. If something were to happen similar to the case that this thread was originally talking about, then I believe that an abortion is acceptable.

Roe v Wade was passed for this reason.  So that people in those kinds of situations had an option.  The law has been abused by people who think along the same lines as TU in that abortion is NOT a last resort.  It is now a form of birth control.  

And TU takes it a step further and wants to present abortion as something that contributes to the greater good of society.  It is this line of reasoning (if thats what you want to call it) that I take issue with.   This is exactly what conservatives were worried about back in 1973.  Liberals told them that they were fucking nuts and that there is no way that our country's moral compass would ever reach that kind of low.  Well look where we are now.  

Cry babies... That's what you guys are... a bunch of crybabies.

Abortion is so fucking done... It's legal... It's used.

Why do people continue to bitch about it? People don't sit around bitching about Capital Punishment like this and the end result is the same. Bottom line is that on abortion, conservatives are some whiners.

You lost this one... move on.