Gh15 or BFG...Olympia stack in MD

[StanZoLOL]

A smart competitor certainly uses top HG long acting test instead of UG prop, if for example they can't get Testovis or Virormone. Many do think they have to switch to prop instead of enanthate because that's what "everyone does". I just don't think the enanthate is a problem in getting dry in most cases. It's like thinking Anadrol can't be used pre-contest because it makes you bloated and is an "off-season drug".

Right- and just from a logistics thing, pinning the total amount they do is a lot easier with TE, I would imagine.

[Captain Equipoise]

A smart competitor certainly uses top HG long acting test instead of UG prop, if for example they can't get Testovis or Virormone. Many do think they have to switch to prop instead of enanthate because that's what "everyone does". I just don't think the enanthate is a problem in getting dry in most cases. It's like thinking Anadrol can't be used pre-contest because it makes you bloated and is an "off-season drug".

If you've been blasting 2.5 grams of Enanthate how long do you think it will be active after you stop? Levels will be higher than in Gwartney's example of a mere 200mg in the end.

The problem is enanthate and cypionate are more prone to water retention, prop not so much, as you're getting ready for a contest you're trying to minimize and lose any water you're holding.. there are some great HG prop's out there, farmak is one example of a phenomenal HG prop, it's from Ukraine and made with ethyl oleate. Great stuff.

[SF1900]

Where does the Anator P70, plazmosis and animal stack fit into this regimen?

[Fatpanda]

Enanthate + letro = no problem.

keto diet also works.

[Wiggs]

Where does the Anator P70, plazmosis and animal stack fit into this regimen?

That goes without saying that's why it's not posted...

[outby43]

keto diet also works.

[Wiggs]

keto diet also works.

fuck keto...no reason to go low carb unless you need to lose weight in a short time span.

[Fatpanda]

fuck keto...no reason to go low carb unless you need to lose weight in a short time span.

i agree, i was talking about holding water with long acting esters - a keto diet reduces this bloat effect from these drugs.

[Wiggs]

i agree, i was talking about holding water with long acting esters - a keto diet reduces this bloat effect from these drugs.

Aww, got it.

[jon cole]

week2 - day 4
    test e - 200mg (week 2 only)
    tren A - 150mg (week 2 only)
    win V inject - 100mg/day
    methenolone enanthate - 600mg/wk
    winstrol oral - 80mg/day
    oxandrolone - 20mgs/day
    hgh - 3iu/day
    insulin: 4 iu with morning meal after cardio
    insulin: 4 iu post wokrout


the week 2 -day 4 phase seems really too low in gear.

[Meso_z]

The problem is enanthate and cypionate are more prone to water retention, prop not so much, as you're getting ready for a contest you're trying to minimize and lose any water you're holding.. there are some great HG prop's out there, farmak is one example of a phenomenal HG prop, it's from Ukraine and made with ethyl oleate. Great stuff.

Man there are no "cutting" drugs and drugs that cause "water retention". steroids are steroids period.

It all depends on the diet if you "hold water" or not.

[jon cole]

test E or prop when you're dieting you"re loosing fat but water retention hide your progress ?

or is there a steroid than slow the fat loss?...

[Captain Equipoise]

Man there are no "cutting" drugs and drugs that cause "water retention". steroids are steroids period.

It all depends on the diet if you "hold water" or not.

I strongly disagree, some steroids will make you hold way more water then others, some aromatize much stronger then others...deca vs. tren ace for example or test e vs. oxandrolone
if you don't believe me try it yourself, maintain the exact  same diet and cardio and go on 1000mg of test E
then do another cycle of just prop, anavar and winstrol
the difference will be clear as day to you.

[Meso_z]

I strongly disagree, some steroids will make you hold way more water then others, some aromatize much stronger then others...deca vs. tren ace for example or test e vs. oxandrolone
if you don't believe me try it yourself, maintain the exact  same diet and cardio and go on 1000mg of test E
then do another cycle of just prop, anavar and winstrol
the difference will be clear as day to you.

gh15 said once, using dbol a few weeks out is not uncommon for some guys.

[gh15]

we have base as i keep saying to you ,, we have the base like car has wheels with air in it at 20-30 psi,,we dont deviate from this bases,,then we add and subtract the rest,, also like sevio say test is our blood,,NO TEST = NO BODYBUILDER no one in their right mind get off test because you can have amazing ohysiqe but with out test you wont look thick enough ,,wont be agressive enoug ,,and wont have stamina to do anything ,,your muscle will look 100 times worse with out test even if wonderfulo condition ,,THICKNESS IS EVERYTHING YOU SAW IT WITH JASON THIS TIME AROUND,,

gh15 approved

[Wiggs]

we have base as i keep saying to you ,, we have the base like car has wheels with air in it at 20-30 psi,,we dont deviate from this bases,,then we add and subtract the rest,, also like sevio say test is our blood,,NO TEST = NO BODYBUILDER no one in their right mind get off test because you can have amazing ohysiqe but with out test you wont look thick enough ,,wont be agressive enoug ,,and wont have stamina to do anything ,,your muscle will look 100 times worse with out test even if wonderfulo condition ,,THICKNESS IS EVERYTHING YOU SAW IT WITH JASON THIS TIME AROUND,,

gh15 approved

So what do you think of the stack?  outside of dosages of course?

[Disgusted]

Coming off of 3 grams of any test ester will make zero difference two weeks out from a show. Deca usually is replaced for EQ closer coming into a show. Personally I like EQ better mg for mg. The anavar should be run at 150 to 200 mg daily. Some do better staying on the GH up to the show as it keeps them fuller with no sub Q water retention, but this is person dependent. All the other stuff is just an add on to a base of drugs that are already used. The anavar isn't, but I singled it out because the dose is way too low in this non Olympia   cycle.