Props for Devilsmile

[CalvinH]

He looks like Justin Beiber found a Sears plastic weight set.

[Luolamies]

He looks like Justin Beiber found a Sears plastic weight set.

QFT

[devilsmile]

Do you have any foreign blood, bro?

not that I know of... but I get that alot.. and I don't have a finnish name either and I have 4.

[Tito24]

[buselmo]

great natural physique...

he should keep up what he's doing (i don't think he diets like "bodybuilders" and eats like a normal person)... no point in working 400% harder just to get 2% more on the physique...

but the guy does have a pussywrecking physique

[dj181]

So when you say "working 400% harder" do you mean that this "harder" is because of a strict diet?

[Luolamies]

So when you say "working 400% harder" do you mean that this "harder" is because of a strict diet?

I think that what he is saying is that there's no point in training hard, if you don't eat enough...

[devilsmile]

I think that what he is saying is that there's no point in training hard, if you don't eat enough...

eating 300g carbs a day and 200g plus protein a day is not enough  

I have trained over 5 years something like that... I thought more training is better at the beginning, only like for the past 2  years I have kinda realised what should be done to do it correctly. Doing less sets and less reps is not going to make my endurance fade away, which I allways feared, now I know it's really bullshit.

I haven't allways looked like that even... I have looked 10kg lighter, flatter and no abs so thank you very much I'm trying to train my ass off  

[buselmo]

So when you say "working 400% harder" do you mean that this "harder" is because of a strict diet?

no talking about training... that's the fun part of bodybuilding...
i'm talking about dieting... i've been doing the shit on the boards for 8 years... with shit results... i've gained an average of 3-5 lbs per year average (much more in the begining, and more after my first cycle... then i believe that whole "focus on the diet and less on drugs"... the gains seemed to stop when i did that)... my retarded ass kept on going like that for years... then i realized that eating 1500 cals a day 4.5 days per week, then eat a shit ton of junk for 2.5 days while training like a maniac gave me much better results.

for a natural... you'll look almost the same eating SENSIBLY, and probably look better, than if you do this whole 6 meals a day on a 50/30/20 or whatever the fuck split...

gear gets you to the next level

upping the dose gets you to new levels

so... yeah ... i was talking about his diet

200 grams of protein, and 300 grams of carbs is still too much on someone under 200 lbs... that's if you include cheat meals every now and then (more now than then  )... if you eat "clean" and don't cheat, that's probably enough

[Jaime]

Five years is quite a lot of training. What are your arms devil, about 15? Do you not eat much? Train more endurance?


Good physique, good aesthetics. Regardless.

Stay natty and keep adding, looks a lot better than your average gymrat.

[devilsmile]

200 grams of protein, and 300 grams of carbs is still too much on someone under 200 lbs... that's if you include cheat meals every now and then (more now than then  )... if you eat "clean" and don't cheat, that's probably enough

LOL that's bullshit man, if anything it's people on gear that should stick with the salads, 300g of carbs is peace of cake... that's like not even trying... two meals I eat a day allready gives like 120g of carbs... and ofcourse I eat fat, but I don't count them, maby 30g a fat a day, maby.

I don't count nutrition them by the gram, that's one thing I've learned about eating that most importantly I should just keep the core nutrition correct and that's protein.

Anything else is just bullshit... keeping blood sugar stable before training is also important for me to get a good pump in training, which means I should eat long chained carbs, definetely not eat anything sweet because it will only lower your blood sugar in few seconds, and after training I don't give a rats ass what I eat aslong as I get enough protein and dipending how well my training went.

6 meals a day HAHA, boy I believed that shit one time... it's bullshit... your body goes to catabolic state if it hasn't got any nutrition for 6 hours, you dont' need to eat like 700lbs bear.

[devilsmile]

Five years is quite a lot of training. What are your arms devil, about 15? Do you not eat much? Train more endurance?


Good physique, good aesthetics. Regardless.

Stay natty and keep adding, looks a lot better than your average gymrat.

yeah 5 years seems like a long time if you knew how to train at the beginning, if you knew anything about nutrition at the beginning.

Sure I would look differend... but try to convinse someone who watched rocky training, that less training is better, and that I should split my body parts in differend days and ultimately train maby 4 times a week maximum... it's bullshit "that's not hard training" 

I know better now... I'm not doing it like that anymore 

[dj181]

Thanks for da reply buselmo, and in my own personal opinion DIET MEANS PRACTICALLY NOTHING in regards to training progress, and that IT IS ALMOST ALL BASED UPON HARD TRAINING AND REST. Of course, you gotta eat to survive, but DIET MEANS FUCK ALL. And speaking of training, it seems dat devil is getting a bit closer to da truth, and dat IS EXACTLY WHY HE HAS MADE PROGRESS.

[Jaime]

yeah 5 years seems like a long time if you knew how to train at the beginning, if you knew anything about nutrition at the beginning.

Sure I would look differend... but try to convinse someone who watched rocky training, that less training is better, and that I should split my body parts in differend days and ultimately train maby 4 times a week maximum... it's bullshit "that's not hard training" 

I know better now... I'm not doing it like that anymore 

Yeah i used to train arms and chest 7 days a week at first. LOL

I still train really frequently, same bodypart three times a week. Works for me.

Only been training a few years, so i'll vary it about to see if more rest changes things at all in a few months.

I think it depends on the person and their recovery time.

[devilsmile]

Yeah i used to train arms and chest 7 days a week at first. LOL

I still train really frequently, same bodypart three times a week. Works for me.

Only been training a few years, so i'll vary it about to see if more rest changes things at all in a few months.

I think it depends on the person and their recovery time.

It dipends of the person sure, but you can go only so far to continue with the same crap. Now I train one body part once a week balls to the wall  , abs twice maby. And it works. And I still feel sometimes I do too many sets... I tried to do shoulder/triceps/chest in one day to do all the pushing moves at one siting, 3 sets of chest, two sets of shoulders and two sets of triceps.

I don't know should I stick with that... then I would have 3 days training a week so I would get that needed rest... I still traing my legs and back/rear delts/calves in their own day.

[225for70]

Dude has a good physique no doubt...

He looks about about 5'10...He's not short like most bodybuilders on this site...

Some of you dude hear a guy say 5'10 and assume that impossible..

[dj181]

You are going in da right direction Devil. And remember... BIGGER TRAINING WEIGHTS=BIGGER MUSCLES And as a side note, I wouldn't worry about delts so much, since they get plenty of work from training chest and back. So, I would recommend dat you train chest and tri on push day, and back and bi on pull day.