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And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« on: November 29, 2010, 02:45:58 PM »
ITTAN WALLI, Pakistan – In early November, in the dusty city of Sheikhupura in Pakistan’s heartland, Asia Bibi, an illiterate Christian woman and mother of five, was sentenced to death by hanging under the country’s blasphemy laws.

Her crime? She allegedly insulted the Prophet Muhammad.



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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 02:47:50 PM »
ITTAN WALLI, Pakistan – In early November, in the dusty city of Sheikhupura in Pakistan’s heartland, Asia Bibi, an illiterate Christian woman and mother of five, was sentenced to death by hanging under the country’s blasphemy laws.

Her crime? She allegedly insulted the Prophet Muhammad.





Note to self when in Pakistan don't mouth off about shit you know will get you killed.

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 02:52:38 PM »
Religion of peace.

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 02:55:31 PM »
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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 03:16:34 PM »
USA sadly doesn't allow free expression.

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 03:17:47 PM »
ITTAN WALLI, Pakistan – In early November, in the dusty city of Sheikhupura in Pakistan’s heartland, Asia Bibi, an illiterate Christian woman and mother of five, was sentenced to death by hanging under the country’s blasphemy laws.

Her crime? She allegedly insulted the Prophet Muhammad.




And were talking about killing the wiki leaks guy for having a website to each his own,

Side note you ever notice, how a person can loose his job for telling a customer the truth,(the company is trying to fuck you) I've been there made me laugh, I try not to fuck someone over, and I nearly get canned some freedom of speech, your aloud to say whatever you want as long as no one looses any money.  ::)

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 03:54:17 PM »
freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequences.

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 04:15:03 PM »
freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequences.
Lol epic reasoning,

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2010, 04:27:49 PM »
USA sadly doesn't allow free expression.
if you mouth off about christians or jews or what not your not put to death
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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2010, 05:24:50 PM »
if you mouth off about christians or jews or what not your not put to death

Amen.  One can find mosques all over this nation.  Find one single synagogue or cathedral in Saudi Arabia and then someone can more credibly argue about America's "intolerance"
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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2010, 05:38:01 PM »
if you mouth off about christians or jews or what not your not put to death
No but your career will be over, in the west death is associated with having all sources of income destroy, over there their broke all you got is your life. :)

This is the hypocracy, you can't say what you want in the west, only if your willing to get fucked money wise. One bitch a year get's murder like that, when thousands of american's get fucked over for speaking their mind. 

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 05:47:12 PM »
No but your career will be over, in the west death is associated with having all sources of income destroy, over there their broke all you got is your life. :)

This is the hypocracy, you can't say what you want in the west, only if your willing to get fucked money wise. One bitch a year get's murder like that, when thousands of american's get fucked over for speaking their mind. 

The First Amendment, ideally, guarantees that a person will not be arrested for what he or she says.  Other people are equally free, however,  to choose not to associate with that person. 

I may choose not to buy a particular artist's CD because of his opinion on certain matters; others may in fact choose to buy his CD's for those same opinions.
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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2010, 05:49:51 PM »
The First Amendment, ideally, guarantees that a person will not be arrested for what he or she says.  Other people are equally free, however,  to choose not to associate with that person.  

I may choose not to buy a particular artist's CD because of his opinion on certain matters; others may in fact choose to buy his CD's for those same opinions.
Ideals aside you can loose your job for what you say, you need a job to survive, atleast in the real world. You can site all the ideals you want, reality is were almost as fucked up as them we just don't see it.

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2010, 05:54:53 PM »
Ideals aside you can loose your job for what you say, you need a job to survive, atleast in the real world. You can site all the ideals you want, reality is were almost as fucked up as them we just don't see it.

Losing one's job, while serious, is hardly equal to death.  Other jobs exist, even in "this economy" 

In the real world, people in other countries are regularly imprisoned, tortured, and killed for what they say (or even for what they are merely accused of having said). 

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2010, 07:02:37 PM »
Losing one's job, while serious, is hardly equal to death.  Other jobs exist, even in "this economy" 

In the real world, people in other countries are regularly imprisoned, tortured, and killed for what they say (or even for what they are merely accused of having said). 



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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2010, 07:18:41 PM »
Losing one's job, while serious, is hardly equal to death.  Other jobs exist, even in "this economy"  

In the real world, people in other countries are regularly imprisoned, tortured, and killed for what they say (or even for what they are merely accused of having said).  


I think your underestimating the number of peoples that go into finacial ruin, due to this kind of shit, and know it ain't the same thing at all, but if you ask alot of these people would you rather goto prison or be broke, due to something they said, and some would actually rather goto prison for a week end.

You guys are over estimating how often this happens in the middle east, some smart fuck might say it happens every other day somewhere in the middle east, when logically there are several thousand people fired every day because of shit they say. 

I'm not saying what we got is worst, I'm just saying that them being a ten and us being a one don't make us perfect.

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2010, 07:26:52 PM »
I think your underestimating the number of peoples that go into finacial ruin, due to this kind of shit, and know it ain't the same thing at all, but if you ask alot of these people would you rather goto prison or be broke, due to something they said, and some would actually rather goto prison for a week end.

You guys are over estimating how often this happens in the middle east, some smart fuck might say it happens every other day somewhere in the middle east, when logically there are several thousand people fired every day because of shit they say.  

I'm not saying what we got is worst, I'm just saying that them being a ten and us being a one don't make us perfect.
Youre an idiot, youre trying to equate losing your job with losing your life. Go fucking kill yourself and save all the rest of us from youre retarded nonsense. You make Failcan look like a goddamn Rhodes Scholar.

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2010, 07:34:53 PM »
Youre an idiot, youre trying to equate losing your job with losing your life. Go fucking kill yourself and save all the rest of us from youre retarded nonsense. You make Failcan look like a goddamn Rhodes Scholar.
Blow me old man, I'm trying to equate a government that persecutes people for speech as part population control, with  a society that advocates free speech, being equally as full of shit. There fucked up, in a mess of a situation we sit back in the west pretend our shit don't stink when we got all the money power etc, and act like we get what were talking about.

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2010, 08:23:57 PM »
Blow me old man, I'm trying to equate a government that persecutes people for speech as part population control, with  a society that advocates free speech, being equally as full of shit. There fucked up, in a mess of a situation we sit back in the west pretend our shit don't stink when we got all the money power etc, and act like we get what were talking about.
A.Im 25 dipshit.
B.No matter how much you try and pass off your fucked up hippie ass opinions, WE DONT FUCKING KILL PEOPLE for insulting a religious figure, you fucking rtard. No one is pretending we dont have our own problems, but for you to try and equate saying something stupid and getting fired to being EXECUTED is the most assinine thing ive ever heard.

But I guess I shouldnt be surprised, pretty much everything you say is completely retarded, I dont think ive seen one single reasonable thing come out of your mouth. You remind of one of those college know it all hippies, always bitchin about how the government with you stupid liberal ideals, with absolutley no clue as to how the real world works.  ::)

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2010, 03:59:48 AM »
She wont fuckin say it again now will she

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2010, 04:29:25 AM »
Blow me old man, I'm trying to equate a government that persecutes people for speech as part population control, with  a society that advocates free speech, being equally as full of shit. There fucked up, in a mess of a situation we sit back in the west pretend our shit don't stink when we got all the money power etc, and act like we get what were talking about.
lål you would love that right you homo




this is asia bibi, the woman we are speaking of. would you hit it?


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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2010, 04:59:10 AM »
And the clerics chalk up another one.  ::)

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Re: And you wonder why we as a nation should value free speech
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2010, 08:21:08 AM »
You make Failcan look like a goddamn Rhodes Scholar.


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