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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2011, 05:18:15 PM »
no doubt there are some who are complete dipshits (there is one on this board that comes to mind)

play nicey nice

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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2011, 07:54:13 PM »
no doubt there are some who are complete dipshits (there is one on this board that comes to mind)


Get me off your mind.....and out of your perverted fantasies.

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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2011, 08:26:01 PM »

Get me off your mind.....and out of your perverted fantasies.

weird

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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2011, 09:28:58 PM »
Quote of the Century.

Of course, when stating the truth about him and his bullshit his only defense is to claim you are insulting him.

Dude is so mentally unhinged and insecure in his little world of self loathing and self hatred that he fails to see why everyone on here laughs at him.  Doesn't really help his case when he is proven wrong on something and immediately the only thing he can think of is to try to change the subject and topic of discussion.  He will get his teeth kicked in on something and immediately start crying about Cap and Trade, KSM, White House Christmas decorations or some other unrelated bullshit on the thread.
I just take it as him being a New Yorker and keep it moving...Apparently according to some study, New Yorker are 2nd to West Virginians in being the most neurotic. Add in being NYC, and you have it in spades...and I've dealt with people like that...good people at heart, they just go off the deep end...

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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2011, 06:02:36 AM »
Easier to attack me personally than acknowledge the traitor you assholes shill for.





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Nile Gardiner is a Washington-based foreign affairs analyst and political commentator. He appears frequently on American and British television and radio, including Fox News Channel, CNN, BBC, Sky News, and NPR. Hillary Clinton's spokesman calls Telegraph nukes story 'bunk', but fails to check his facts


By Nile Gardiner World Last updated: February 8th, 2011

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P. J. Crowley pops up to say hello (Photo: AP)

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Hillary Clinton’s spokesman, Philip J. Crowley, has described a major story – revealed by the Daily Telegraph – on the Obama administration’s secret decision to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent as “bunk”.

In an email on Saturday to Time magazine, Crowley stated:

This is bunk. Under the 1991 START Treaty, the U.S. agreed to notify Russia of specific nuclear cooperation with the United Kingdom, such as the transfer of SLBM’s [submarine launch ballistic missiles] to the UK, or their maintenance or modernization. This is under an existing pattern of cooperation throughout that treaty and is expected to continue under New START. We simply carried forward and updated this notification procedure to the new treaty. There was no secret agreement and no compromise of the UK’s independent nuclear deterrent.

But it appears that Mr Crowley, Assistant Secretary of State with the Bureau of Public Affairs, has not checked his facts. There are, in fact, substantial differences between the 1991 and 2011 START Treaties. A key example is that, as the Wikileaks documents show, the US agreed to give the Russians unique identifiers for the American missiles transferred to Britain. These identifiers were not included in the original 1991 START Treaty. Crowley’s key assertion that the Obama administration “simply carried forward and updated this notification procedure to the new treaty” is completely false. It has no basis in reality.

As a key Wikileaks document published by the Telegraph shows, describing a key conversation between US and Russian negotiators at a meeting in Geneva on February 26, 2010, Washington offered Moscow “more information than was disclosed under START”:

UK TRIDENT MISSILES

Orlov asked about the U.S. practice of transferring Trident II missiles to the United Kingdom (UK) in reference to the Russian-proposed agreed statement on the subject. Trout pointed out that most of the provisions contained in the proposed agreed statement were already covered by other sections of the treaty. He noted that notifications existed for the transfer and return of missiles to and from a third party. Additionally, he pointed out, the Russian Federation will receive unique identifiers for each of the missiles transferred to the UK, which was more information than was disclosed under START.

The Telegraph’s revelations have sparked a good deal of interest on Capitol Hill, where a number of Congressional offices are already demanding answers from the Obama administration over the treatment of America’s closest ally. The attempt by the administration to spin this story also raises important questions as to why the negotiating documents for the New START Treaty were not handed over to the Senate for scrutiny during the debates over START. It is hugely important that government officials convey an accurate account of policy decisions that are made behind the scenes – away from the public eye, but in the name of the American people.

The Telegraph’s report raises major questions over what other deals may have been struck by Barack Obama’s team at the expense of US allies in order to clinch a deal with the Russians, and why the whole negotiating process has been hidden from Congressional scrutiny. There can be no doubt that, despite the Mr Crowley’s attempts to bury the story, Congressional interest in Washington will grow intensely in the coming weeks, as lawmakers demand to know what was said and promised during these negotiations.

Tags: Hillary Clinton, New START Treaty, PJ Crowley, State Department, US politics

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100075257/hillary-clintons-spokesman-calls-telegraph-nukes-story-bunk-but-fails-to-check-his-facts




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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2011, 06:16:06 AM »
lmao...blogs man...just jump

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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2011, 06:18:39 AM »
lmao...blogs man...just jump

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Yeah, God forbid you take off your rose colored glasses when it comes to Benedict Obama.

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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2011, 06:20:11 AM »
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Yeah, God forbid you take off your rose colored glasses when it comes to Benedict Obama.

kind of like wen you down played my Rick Ross Articles and CIA Cocaine link...dude dont front

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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2011, 06:23:09 AM »
kind of like wen you down played my Rick Ross Articles and CIA Cocaine link...dude dont front

I have been looking in to it, but I still dont see how you blae reagan for few rogue actors.   

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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2011, 06:49:03 AM »
Source: ABC News

Both the U.S. and British governments disputed on Saturday a London Telegraph report asserting that the "U.S. secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty."State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley called the report "nonsense," saying the information sharing about U.S. transfers of nuclear weapons to the U.K. dates back to the original START treaty, an assertion backed up by the White House and British government officials.

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Crowley emailed ABC News that "Under the 1991 START Treaty, the U.S. agreed to notify Russia of specific nuclear cooperation with the United Kingdom, such as the transfer of SLBM's to the U.K., or their maintenance or modernization. This is under an existing pattern of cooperation throughout that treaty and is expected to continue under New START. We simply carried forward and updated this notification procedure to the new treaty. There was no secret agreement and no compromise of the U.K.'s independent nuclear deterrent."

A knowledgeable source with the British government, speaking anonymously because his government has a policy of not commenting on Wikileaks, says his understanding of the policy conforms with that asserted by the State Department.


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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #60 on: February 09, 2011, 06:54:04 AM »
Like they are open going to admit it.    ::)  ::)

And who are these so called "sources" ? ?   

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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #61 on: February 09, 2011, 07:10:58 AM »
Easier to attack me personally


Translated :  Easy to tell the truth about you time and time again when you continue to get your little ass owned like this because you are lacking a grasp on a sliver of reality due to your ongoing blind self hatred.


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Re: ok no one is answering me
« Reply #62 on: February 09, 2011, 07:17:15 AM »
Like they are open going to admit it.    ::)  ::)

And who are these so called "sources" ? ?   


Nile Gardiner is a British conservative commentator known for his work on the
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