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Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
By Joshua Rhett Miller
Published February 19, 2011
FoxNews.com


"I'm so glad that the rules have been changed," Mona Shores High School senior Oak Reed said in a statement released by the ACLU. "All I wanted was a chance for all students to participate and be heard. Now my classmates and I can just focus on having a great time at our school dance." (YouTube.com)

A Michigan high school's decision to allow a gender-neutral prom court this spring -- after denying a transgendered student the title of homecoming king last fall -- has angered and "disappointed" some current and former students.

Sam Kuiper -- who graduated from Mona Shores High School in 2009 and played in the school's marching band alongside Oak Reed, the transgendered student who was denied the homecoming-king crown after being voted in by classmates -- said he doesn't think a "permanent change" to prom traditions was necessary.

"It should be flexible enough to be changed on a case-by-case basis," Kuiper told FoxNews.com in an e-mail.

Although school officials struggled to control the fire following the controversy surrounding last fall's vote, Kuiper said he hopes other nearby school districts can learn from the incident.

"Other high schools should take note of how the situation was handled by [Mona Shores High School] and possibly shape their policies around our end result," Kuiper's message continued.

Several current students said they had mixed feelings about the new gender-neutral prom court, however.

"In all honesty, I strongly disagree with it," one student who asked not to be identified wrote FoxNews.com in an e-mail. "I do not think it is right for the school district to make a decision like this based on one student."

"The district made this decision because of the chaos that was started by the incident at homecoming last fall. I feel that they are not doing this to be politically correct, but simply to avoid negative press -- and the negative responses that were generated last fall," the student wrote.

The student suggested that the policy be implemented for "this year only," since Reed is a senior.

"I can assure you there are many others who share my opinion," the message continued.

Another Mona Shores student, who also asked not to be identified, said he wouldn't be surprised if the idea caught on at other schools and districts.

"I only believe that would happen because of pressure from the 'minority' group that desires it," the student said. "I have no bias against transgender, homosexual or all alike, but I do not believe that we should be changing the precedence of the male-female court on account of someone 'not getting their way' or feeling 'discriminated' against."

To coincide with the gender-neutral prom court, the student suggested that school locker rooms and bathrooms be changed to unisex facilities.

Another student at Mona Shores said she was "disappointed" that a longstanding tradition had been changed because of one student.

"There is some talk around the school right now about having another prom that students and parent volunteers would organize," the female senior wrote. "Possibilities would include a different venue, maybe on the same night/time, and we get to vote for our own king & queen."

Another student, senior John Skocelas, told WOOD-TV he thought it was wrong to change the policy based on one student.

"It's our vote," he told the NBC affiliate. "It's not what the school wants, it's what we want."

Officials at the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan and Mona Shores High School announced the change on Monday. ACLU officials, in cooperation with law firm Sidley Austin LLP, had sent the school a letter following last year's vote detailing concerns of suppressing free speech and discrimination based on gender identity.

Mona Shores Public School Superintendent Terry Babbitt told FoxNews.com the "building-level" policy change has been unanimously approved by the school district's board to move toward a "gender-neutral terminology" instead of prom queen or prom king. Instead, voting for the upcoming "prom court" will be open to all juniors and seniors, including Reed.

"For us, it was just a matter of doing the right thing," Babbitt said. "It's more inclusive and has a greater sense of fairness."

ACLU officials have also praised the decision.

"Schools should provide a welcoming and safe environment for all students, and should be free from discrimination," read a statement by John Knight, senior staff attorney with the ACLU of Michigan's Lesbian, Gay Bisexual and Transgender Project. "We hope that Oak -- and all of his classmates -- will not have to worry in the future about feeling left out because of who they are."

Reed, who will wear a male cap and gown during graduation later this year, said he was pleased by the new prom court configuration.

"I'm so glad that the rules have been changed," Reed said in a statement released by the ACLU. "All I wanted was a chance for all students to participate and be heard. Now my classmates and I can just focus on having a great time at our school dance."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/18/mixed-emotions-michigan-school-moves-gender-neutral-prom-court/?test=latestnews

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 09:08:26 AM »
so stupid...

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 09:33:48 AM »
so stupid...

i agree

this is a stupid topic

who on this board really gives a shit about high school prom

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 09:36:30 AM »
i agree

this is a stupid topic

who on this board really gives a shit about high school prom
run away troll boy...

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 09:40:14 AM »
run away troll boy...

weird how two adult men are so concerned about a high school prom


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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 09:53:15 AM »
its from fox news what do you expect  :D :D

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 09:59:40 AM »
its from fox news what do you expect  :D :D

I dunno

when I was in highschool the only people who cared about the prom were the girls

why would an adult male give a shit about a high school prom?

then again, we all know Nancy is a social warrior for Jebus and Tony is baffled by the use of bold text so I guess it's just par for the course

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 10:44:36 AM »
nothing but this whole culture war bullshit.

some homecoming king in some other part of the country has soemthing wrong with their junk/hormones. 

And this issue is more important to FOX and its viewers than the economy, the war, cap/trade, etc.  It's no wonder almost everyone in the GOP 2012 potential list is suddenly getting all loud about abortion, etc. 

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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011, 10:48:34 AM »
nothing but this whole culture war bullshit.

some homecoming king in some other part of the country has soemthing wrong with their junk/hormones. 

And this issue is more important to FOX and its viewers than the economy, the war, cap/trade, etc.  It's no wonder almost everyone in the GOP 2012 potential list is suddenly getting all loud about abortion, etc. 
LMFAO STFU already you tool

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2011, 10:54:46 AM »
LMFAO STFU already you tool

Please address my point.  Seriously, the economy/dollar really may fall this year.  The govt is getting shut down in a week, most likely.  Labor riots could break out in a lot more states.  The middle east is going in a very bad direction for us.

Why in the world would any tv news viewer give a rats ass about whether or not some underage kid in Michigan has an innie or an outie?

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2011, 10:57:25 AM »
Please address my point.  Seriously, the economy/dollar really may fall this year.  The govt is getting shut down in a week, most likely.  Labor riots could break out in a lot more states.  The middle east is going in a very bad direction for us.

Why in the world would any tv news viewer give a rats ass about whether or not some underage kid in Michigan has an innie or an outie?
LOL so FOX, MSNBC and CNN have to spend every minute of their 24 hour a day news coverage on the economy?

STFU up already...shit

this is exactly why you have the shitty reputation on here that you do...youre nothing but a instigator a common troll the likes of mons or blacken...goodness gracious grow the fuck up

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2011, 10:57:51 AM »
LMFAO STFU already you tool

Tell me about it.  I think some people are incapable of talking about more than one issue.  Then we'll see something about UFOs, posts from National Enquirer, etc. from those some dum dums.   :)

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2011, 11:00:48 AM »
LOL so FOX, MSNBC and CNN have to spend every minute of their 24 hour a day news coverage on the economy?

STFU up already...shit

this is exactly why you have the shitty reputation on here that you do...youre nothing but a instigator a common troll the likes of mons or blacken...goodness gracious grow the fuck up

I think MSNBC and CNN do it too.  It's just my opinion.  I think there are plenty of stories about 2012 candiddates, the economy, obama's screwups, the middle east, the wars...

that we shouldn't have to rummange into the "let's get a highly divisive issue about a 17 years old's penis".  Geez.  maybe it's just me.  I just don't see it as newsworthy.  Now, you can play the fool and attack me and say "but but but you said this..."

I'm talking about the channels.  This is such a stupid story. I have no clue why precious airtime can't go to any of the other ten or twenty topics that matter.  But hey, let's get all pissed off about teenage penises.  WTF?

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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2011, 11:03:56 AM »
I think MSNBC and CNN do it too.  It's just my opinion.  I think there are plenty of stories about 2012 candiddates, the economy, obama's screwups, the middle east, the wars...

that we shouldn't have to rummange into the "let's get a highly divisive issue about a 17 years old's penis".  Geez.  maybe it's just me.  I just don't see it as newsworthy.  Now, you can play the fool and attack me and say "but but but you said this..."

I'm talking about the channels.  This is such a stupid story. I have no clue why precious airtime can't go to any of the other ten or twenty topics that matter.  But hey, let's get all pissed off about teenage penises.  WTF?
dude they all spend 95% of their time on the important shit and they all spend about 5% of their time on random news stories...GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!!!

again this is exactly why ppl view you as nothing more than a common troll on here...

grow the fuck up...

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2011, 11:07:35 AM »
even if it's only 5% of the day... it's still a pretty damn stupid story.  I couldn't call it "random"... i think we all know it's an intentionally divisive story regarding twisted sexuality they use to entice sexually "whatever" viewers. 

I mean, there were probably murders, rapes, kidnappings, and other pretty big stories.  Why are the "random" ones so often about cross-gender shit like this? 

I dunno, like I said, it's just my opininon.  I think networks interject this shit because they feel some % of their viewers enjoy talking about weird gender situations, etc. 

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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2011, 11:12:11 AM »
even if it's only 5% of the day... it's still a pretty damn stupid story.  I couldn't call it "random"... i think we all know it's an intentionally divisive story regarding twisted sexuality they use to entice sexually "whatever" viewers. 

I mean, there were probably murders, rapes, kidnappings, and other pretty big stories.  Why are the "random" ones so often about cross-gender shit like this? 

I dunno, like I said, it's just my opininon.  I think networks interject this shit because they feel some % of their viewers enjoy talking about weird gender situations, etc. 
I say random on the story not the content, b/c msnbc and cnn do the same just with different stories...

LOCAL news covers the rapes, murders etc..that effect those in that area...why do I care about a murder in florida? we have murders here in Houston...this is a social issue and thats why it gets played in a national context...

LOL they inject stuff like this b/c they feel that their viewers feel these issues are important...just like msnbc plays the same shit about glbt issues and cnn plays shit about african americans...

GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2011, 11:14:01 AM »
fox news and glen beck , the news source for half of the getbig clan  :D :D :D :D :D :D

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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 11:17:31 AM »
fox news and glen beck , the news source for half of the getbig clan  :D :D :D :D :D :D
LOL youtube, the news source for black ass  :D :D :D :D :D :D

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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 11:23:52 AM »
for someone that doesn't watch fox or beck  you seem to come out fast to defend them :D :D :D :D :D the gays come out of the closet so can you  ;D

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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 11:30:15 AM »
for someone that doesn't watch fox or beck  you seem to come out fast to defend them :D :D :D :D :D the gays come out of the closet so can you  ;D
i watch FOX about as much as I watch CNN and less than I watch MSNBC...

I dont watch beck/hannity, I watch oreilly from time to time but like ive said generally only after something big happens.

for someone who doesnt watch FOX, CNN or MSNBC you certainly have a grudge against FOX...its ok to come out of the closet...









































and after you do that you can admit you watch MSNBC too ;)

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Re: Mixed Emotions After Michigan School Moves to Gender-Neutral Prom Court
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 11:32:15 AM »
i watch em all.  And damn, the amount of time they dedicate to Charlie Sheen's coke parties or Lindsey lohans' idoocy is unreal.

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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2011, 11:34:41 AM »
i watch fox cnn and nbc. fox is mostly for the entertainment value  ;D. i get a kick out of the shit you guys will believe  ;D

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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2011, 11:38:03 AM »
i watch fox cnn and nbc. fox is mostly for the entertainment value  ;D. i get a kick out of the shit you guys will believe  ;D
but cnn and nbc are not for entertainment value?


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