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Re: Imagine there is no heaven(an atheist manifesto)
« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2011, 12:36:58 PM »
mmmmmmmm and its funny how in this infinite universe so infinite there is no end to space, humans appeared.so i guess there is no other life out there only us how ''vain''

Did I say that? I never said we are the only life in the universe.  ???

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Re: Imagine there is no heaven(an atheist manifesto)
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2011, 12:57:41 PM »


All I know is theres only 1 truth. Like the sky is BLUE, the sun is YELLOW and my balls are BROWN.


Youre not going to start in with Ayn Rand and her ignorant theories of objectivism are you Mr. Mentzer?

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Re: Imagine there is no heaven(an atheist manifesto)
« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2011, 01:04:24 PM »
Did I say that? I never said we are the only life in the universe.  ???
no just making a point we as humans didn't come from apes if we were why are there still apes ??? we had a creator some be live we were decedents of an alien race more advanced than ourselves some of course believe in god.
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Re: Imagine there is no heaven(an atheist manifesto)
« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2011, 01:33:02 PM »
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Re: Imagine there is no heaven(an atheist manifesto)
« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2011, 01:33:48 PM »

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Re: Imagine there is no heaven(an atheist manifesto)
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2011, 01:34:41 PM »
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Re: Imagine there is no heaven(an atheist manifesto)
« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2011, 01:39:00 PM »
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yes so true god helps those who help themselves he cannot fix all problems hes not a genie but he will help guide us and protect us in our quest for what we need.
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Re: Imagine there is no heaven(an atheist manifesto)
« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2011, 02:05:32 PM »
yes so true god helps those who help themselves he cannot fix all problems hes not a genie but he will help guide us and protect us in our quest for what we need.

sweet thought...now back to reality...
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Re: Imagine there is no heaven(an atheist manifesto)
« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2011, 02:08:29 PM »
Faith and the Good Society
People of faith regularly claim that atheism is responsible for some of the most appalling crimes of the 20th century. Although it is true that the regimes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were irreligious to varying degrees, they were not especially rational. In fact, their public pronouncements were little more than litanies of delusion—delusions about race, economics, national identity, the march of history or the moral dangers of intellectualism. In many respects, religion was directly culpable even here. Consider the Holocaust: The anti-Semitism that built the Nazi crematoria brick by brick was a direct inheritance from medieval Christianity. For centuries, religious Germans had viewed the Jews as the worst species of heretics and attributed every societal ill to their continued presence among the faithful. While the hatred of Jews in Germany expressed itself in a predominately secular way, the religious demonization of the Jews of Europe continued. (The Vatican itself perpetuated the blood libel in its newspapers as late as 1914.)

Auschwitz, the gulag and the killing fields are not examples of what happens when people become too critical of unjustified beliefs; to the contrary, these horrors testify to the dangers of not thinking critically enough about specific secular ideologies. Needless to say, a rational argument against religious faith is not an argument for the blind embrace of atheism as a dogma. The problem that the atheist exposes is none other than the problem of dogma itself—of which every religion has more than its fair share. There is no society in recorded history that ever suffered because its people became too reasonable.

While most Americans believe that getting rid of religion is an impossible goal, much of the developed world has already accomplished it. Any account of a “god gene” that causes the majority of Americans to helplessly organize their lives around ancient works of religious fiction must explain why so many inhabitants of other First World societies apparently lack such a gene. The level of atheism throughout the rest of the developed world refutes any argument that religion is somehow a moral necessity. Countries like Norway, Iceland, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, Japan, the Netherlands, Denmark and the United Kingdom are among the least religious societies on Earth. According to the United Nations’ Human Development Report (2005) they are also the healthiest, as indicated by measures of life expectancy, adult literacy, per capita income, educational attainment, gender equality, homicide rate and infant mortality. Conversely, the 50 nations now ranked lowest in terms of human development are unwaveringly religious. Other analyses paint the same picture: The United States is unique among wealthy democracies in its level of religious literalism and opposition to evolutionary theory; it is also uniquely beleaguered by high rates of homicide, abortion, teen pregnancy, STD infection and infant mortality. The same comparison holds true within the United States itself: Southern and Midwestern states, characterized by the highest levels of religious superstition and hostility to evolutionary theory, are especially plagued by the above indicators of societal dysfunction, while the comparatively secular states of the Northeast conform to European norms. Of course, correlational data of this sort do not resolve questions of causality—belief in God may lead to societal dysfunction; societal dysfunction may foster a belief in God; each factor may enable the other; or both may spring from some deeper source of mischief. Leaving aside the issue of cause and effect, these facts prove that atheism is perfectly compatible with the basic aspirations of a civil society; they also prove, conclusively, that religious faith does nothing to ensure a society’s health.

Countries with high levels of atheism also are the most charitable in terms of giving foreign aid to the developing world. The dubious link between Christian literalism and Christian values is also belied by other indices of charity. Consider the ratio in salaries between top-tier CEOs and their average employee: in Britain it is 24 to 1; France 15 to 1; Sweden 13 to 1; in the United States, where 83% of the population believes that Jesus literally rose from the dead, it is 475 to 1. Many a camel, it would seem, expects to squeeze easily through the eye of a needle.
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Re: Imagine there is no heaven(an atheist manifesto)
« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2011, 09:43:54 PM »
Inner Peace is all I want. That's it.