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Re: PELLIUS
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2011, 07:07:46 PM »
either way, you witnessed a important piece of fighting lore

i think the Japanese take alot of shit on the internet because of the fact that their fighters don't have the best records in the US and the fact that Japanese MMA was Yakuza run but most people on the forums are morons

They (the morons on MMA forums) don't know anything of "Fighting Spirit" and Respect Japanese fighters display......even in losing, the Japanese display honor and fighting spirit

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Re: PELLIUS
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2011, 07:15:02 PM »


if i had a soul this song would make me cry

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Re: PELLIUS
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2011, 07:19:54 PM »
if i had a soul this song would make me cry
Me too. Good thing I'm old.   -->   8)


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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2011, 07:30:21 PM »
Me too. Good thing I'm old.   -->   8)



this song makes me think of the final season of "Felicity"

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Re: PELLIUS
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2011, 07:38:54 PM »
this song makes me think of the final season of "Felicity"
It's an ok song, but when I heard it, I was 3 stories deep at Hampstead, with all the underground tiles - it knocked the shit out of me.  

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Re: PELLIUS
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2011, 11:00:10 PM »
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Re: PELLIUS
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2011, 05:21:32 PM »
either way, you witnessed a important piece of fighting lore

i think the Japanese take alot of shit on the internet because of the fact that their fighters don't have the best records in the US and the fact that Japanese MMA was Yakuza run but most people on the forums are morons

They (the morons on MMA forums) don't know anything of "Fighting Spirit" and Respect Japanese fighters display......even in losing, the Japanese display honor and fighting spirit

Actually back then it didn't seem like any great historical event. This was still the  1990s and the Gracie's had their Gracie Challenge in which you'd win 10 grand if you could beat them. In-house fights were pretty common and it got to the point where you had to fight one of their students first. This was not the first time you had someone walk in to challenge Rickson though there would usually be some talk before hand. We didn't know who these Japs were and that Yoji Anjo was representing Takada's dojo. There was a bit more of an ominous aura because of the way they looked. They were obviously foreigners and the whole camera crew thing and they had a very serious and solemn look and manner about them. You got to love the Japs.

I have been thinking more about whether the fight was tape. Like I mentioned before, at the time I never really gave it much thought. It seems that if it was made it would have been made public by now. It is not out of the question that if the fight was taped that Rickson would have asked that it be given to him and that the Japanese, being the losers, would comply. "To the victor goes the spoils" according to the laws of Bushido. And if Rickson has it it will never be made public as long as he is alive and will only be reserved for a special audience.  

Though the Japanese culture has been Westernize a lot you are right that for a large segment of the population the spirit of Bushido is still alive and well. And not just in martial arts. In America when a politician or business leader screws up or does something unethical they always proclaim that they will take full responsibility which in reality means nothing. They do nothing. It is not uncommon in Japan for these big wigs to suicide themselves, such as when Dream Stage Entertainment President (which produce and ran Pride) Naoto Morishita hung himself during all the turmoil with the organization, Yakuza and his mistress threatening to expose him.

The vast majority of the fighters, even great entertainers like Sakaraba, still imbue the spirit of Bushido.

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« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2011, 05:00:42 PM »
I don't have any myself. We're talking early/mid 1990s. The fights were not structure tournaments so most we're in house stuff due to the Gracie challenge at the time or matches we'd just arranged on our own. When the UFC started there were some not very well organize type matches that we'd have to drive to the Indian Reservation to compete in where we wouldn't get in trouble with the law. King Of the Cage grew out of that. I do wish I took more pics, especially when I first met Helio Gracie, and video taped events. To this day I still don't own a video camera.

I don't know why. I just never really imagine how big things would get. We were this obscure subculture just doing our thing solely for the love of it. There was no pay offs or hope for a pay off. Even when Jiu-Jitsu tournaments started popping up it was just for a cheap medal, not even a trophy, that nobody, other than yourself, cared about.

In the beginning it was easy. Nobody knew Jiu-Jitsu and practically every fight went by the script. Clinch, go to the ground (you didn't even do a legit take down you just both sort of fell to the ground while clinching), mount, some strikes until opponent turns to his back, then choke. We were supremely confident and never lost because we were doing something that nobody else was doing. By the time you were a one year blue-belt you could pretty much take on anybody. Things changed very fast after the UFC made it's debut. And because we were still doing bare knuckle no holds bar (the only rules being eye gouging, biting or hair pulling, which nobody would do anyway because we still consider it more of a sport than fight for survival on the street; though hitting in the nuts was fair game) things got ugly really quick -- even if you won. I was already in my mid thirties then and was really getting busted up. I don't have that kind of body like a Randy Couture or a Dan Severn has that can really take abuse and keep going. BTW, it should be noted that Severn, even at 52 is still fighting. In fact, since his UFC debut back in the early 1990s he has fought every year several times a year. Most of those years he's fighting every two months. That's one tough dude.

I hadn't thought of Dan Severn in awhile  .. thanks for the recall pell  :)
you know I love to hear you speak of your experiences .. just as I enjoyed reading Keiths .. and like to read stunt's aswell