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Primemuscle

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Censorship
« on: March 31, 2011, 05:13:41 PM »
It seems my original thread regarding censorship was deleted. According to Ron, who sent me a PM, it was posted in the wrong forum. He suggested this forum would be a more appropriate choice. Not sure why he or the mods didn't simply move it here for me. Perhaps that's too much work.

Anyway, how do you all feel about censorship on Getbig? Is it too strict or too lenient? Is is fair, meaning that the censorship is consistant regardless of who is posting and the topic being censored? Do you think there should be more censorship or less?

When a thread is posted in the wrong forum, should the moderators contact the originator and move the thread or just delete it?

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Re: Censorship
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 05:15:53 PM »
It seems my original thread regarding censorship was deleted. According to Ron, who sent me a PM, it was posted in the wrong forum. He suggested this forum would be a more appropriate choice. Not sure why he or the mods didn't simply move it here for me. Perhaps that's too much work.

Anyway, how do you all feel about censorship on Getbig? Is it too strict or too lenient? Is is fair, meaning that the censorship is consistant regardless of who is posting and the topic being censored? Do you think there should be more censorship or less?

When a thread is posted in the wrong forum, should the moderators contact the originator and move the thread or just delete it?

The moderators should use some common fucking sense and move the thread.


Censorship is running rampant on all forums nowadays. Except for maybe AS. I'm guessing Manion bought GetBig and BigRon just hasn't announced it yet.

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Re: Censorship
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 05:19:17 PM »
The moderators should use some common fucking sense and move the thread.


Censorship is running rampant on all forums nowadays. Except for maybe AS. I'm guessing Manion bought GetBig and BigRon just hasn't announced it yet.

haven't been on AS in awhile..

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Re: Censorship
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 05:23:35 PM »
Obviously, site owners must censor some posts if they are illegal in some way. However, I don't get censorship when it seems personal. Like censoring any post that criticizes the mods or site owners site management tactics.

Well, I guess that's there right to delete what they don't like....but sometimes it seems rather unprofessional when it appears to be a personal vendetta.

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Re: Censorship
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 05:34:19 PM »
personal vendetta ?

expand and clarify if you can

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Re: Censorship
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 12:49:50 AM »
personal vendetta ?

expand and clarify if you can

Well I am sure you know what a vendetta is. It is an often prolonged series of retaliatory, vengeful, or hostile acts. Now that I think about it, this is a pretty strong word to use in terms of this particular situation. Perhaps I was being a bit dramatic and overreacting.

I don't follow the action here enough to know who is on who's case. It just seemed to me that there was nothing that offensive in the threads that were getting deleted yesterday. Plus since I was following a particular thread with interest, it annoyed me when I logged back on only to find it had vanished along with my posts in it.

It could have been me who took it personally. I started a couple of censorship threads which also got deleted yesterday. Today Ron contacted me to explain that the thread was in an inappropriate forum which is why he deleted it. Personally, if I were moderating I would have moved it. Although I don't completely agree that it was in the wrong forum in the first place since it was in the Gossip and Opinion forum and it was based on my opinion about censorship here.

Because of my involvement on a different website forum as a moderator, by comparison it seems there is more censorship here than there. However, most of the offensive posts there are spam (which get deleted as quickly as possible) and occasionally something with questionable legal concerns.

Since you used to post on the site I mentioned, you know that pretty much anything goes there. The webmaster and I often disagree on many topics but we don't censor or delete posts simply because we don't agree with them.

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Re: Censorship
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2011, 05:49:43 AM »
Rons board,Rons rules.

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Re: Censorship
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 07:43:33 AM »
Well I am sure you know what a vendetta is. It is an often prolonged series of retaliatory, vengeful, or hostile acts. Now that I think about it, this is a pretty strong word to use in terms of this particular situation. Perhaps I was being a bit dramatic and overreacting.

I think being oversensitive and a little antagonistic was also what you were ... no offense meant with that .. but making such a fuss about it shows sheer frustration over something pretty benign

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I don't follow the action here enough to know who is on who's case. It just seemed to me that there was nothing that offensive in the threads that were getting deleted yesterday. Plus since I was following a particular thread with interest, it annoyed me when I logged back on only to find it had vanished along with my posts in it.

Everyone of us here have had posts deleted and threads removed ... most of us don't feel the need to make another thread to complain about it ... it's not hard to figure out why things are moved or removed

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It could have been me who took it personally. I started a couple of censorship threads which also got deleted yesterday. Today Ron contacted me to explain that the thread was in an inappropriate forum which is why he deleted it. Personally, if I were moderating I would have moved it. Although I don't completely agree that it was in the wrong forum in the first place since it was in the Gossip and Opinion forum and it was based on my opinion about censorship here.

Ron contacted you or you asked him and he responded ?

The G&O is for BODYBUILDING related posts .. not hard to read the "description"that states that .. it doesn't include personal opinions on any subject in the world

It's not a highly scrutinized guideline .. but it is enforced and mostly by Ron him self

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Because of my involvement on a different website forum as a moderator, by comparison it seems there is more censorship here than there. However, most of the offensive posts there are spam (which get deleted as quickly as possible) and occasionally something with questionable legal concerns.

Since you used to post on the site I mentioned, you know that pretty much anything goes there. The webmaster and I often disagree on many topics but we don't censor or delete posts simply because we don't agree with them.

My experience there was far from the way you see it .. but you weren't part of the behind the scenes drama .. what remains there now is all it will ever be .. a ghost town with an out of touch owner .. for all the years it's been there the same shit has gone on and on about improving or growing it never changes and never will .. Matt is not capable to understand everything there is to know and cannot remain focused on anything long enough to accomplish it .. he let his chance fall through his fingers because of his own weakness and insecurity


I'm not hating or trying to incite an argument .. I'm just stating my opinion

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Re: Censorship
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2011, 10:14:27 AM »
As long as you're not revealing the truth behind how fucked up and corrupt the IFBB is and how shady everything behind it is you can post pretty much anything..

as soon as you mention the cold ugly truth behind bodybuilding you're in time out.,

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Re: Censorship
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2011, 03:54:29 PM »
I think being oversensitive and a little antagonistic was also what you were ... no offense meant with that .. but making such a fuss about it shows sheer frustration over something pretty benign
Occasionally, I fall prey to my own sensitivity and I do overreact. Clearly, there have been times when the mood of the moment has taken over for my usual rational thinking processes. While this isn't the case here, someone mentioned  awhile back that I set myself up for this because I sometimes post outrageous stuff about myself and then get upset when folks react negatively. But hey, no one is perfect.

Everyone of us here have had posts deleted and threads removed ... most of us don't feel the need to make another thread to complain about it ... it's not hard to figure out why things are moved or removed
Like I said, mood of the moment.

Ron contacted you or you asked him and he responded ?
Ron sent me a PM explaining what had happened. I did not solicit it. However, I do appreciate his taking the time to offer me his explanation.

The G&O is for BODYBUILDING related posts .. not hard to read the "description"that states that .. it doesn't include personal opinions on any subject in the world

It's not a highly scrutinized guideline .. but it is enforced and mostly by Ron him self
Guess I should have read the forum description huh?

My experience there was far from the way you see it .. but you weren't part of the behind the scenes drama .. what remains there now is all it will ever be .. a ghost town with an out of touch owner .. for all the years it's been there the same shit has gone on and on about improving or growing it never changes and never will .. Matt is not capable to understand everything there is to know and cannot remain focused on anything long enough to accomplish it .. he let his chance fall through his fingers because of his own weakness and insecurity

Sometimes I question what the attraction with that site is for me. Yes, I too have felt frustration over unsolicited promises that never seem to come to fruition. If excuses were results, that website would be amazing. Matt does appear to have issues with staying focused and completing tasks. I guess I am hopeful that this will eventually change. Most folks learn and mature over time....I guess I am waiting for this to happen.

No, I was not privy to all the behind the scenes stuff that went on during that particular time. Maybe that's a blessing. I am generally a very positive person. As such, I try to gravitate towards positive experiences. Too much drama strikes me as being highly negative and I try to avoid it as much as possible. However, sometimes I do allow myself to get sucked into it anyway. Matt has allowed me enough moderator privileges to be able to help curb a lot of the spam. He has also lately heeded advice on ways to resolve the spam problem. So, at least in this area, there is hope. Now when it comes to political/racial/ethnic stuff, Matt and I are totally on different pages. I don't see that ever changing.  


I'm not hating or trying to incite an argument .. I'm just stating my opinion
Nothing in your post suggested to me that your were hateful or trying to incite an argument. Your opinion is valid and I appreciate you sharing it with me.