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I don't think his sexual preference should have been a major issue, but the fact he was in a relationship with a man he wasn't able to marry, and made a decision on whether he would be able to marry that man, is definitely an issue. 

Supporters of Calif. same-sex marriage ban cite judge's sexuality
By Associated Press
POSTED: 01:45 p.m. HST, Apr 25, 2011

SAN FRANCISCO >> The sponsors of California's same-sex marriage ban said Monday that the recent disclosure by the federal judge who struck down Proposition 8 that he is in a long-term relationship with another man has given them new grounds to have his historic ruling overturned. 

Lawyers for the ban's backers filed a motion in San Francisco's U.S. District Court, arguing that Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker should have removed himself from the case or at least disclosed his relationship status because his "impartiality might reasonably be questioned."

"Only if Chief Judge Walker had unequivocally disavowed any interest in marrying his partner could the parties and the public be confident that he did not have a direct personal interest in the outcome of the case," attorneys for the coalition of religious and conservative groups that put Proposition 8 on the November 2008 ballot wrote.

They are now asking the judge who inherited the case when Walker retired at the end of February to vacate Walker's August 2010 decision. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals already is reviewing the legal merits of Walker's ruling at the request of Proposition 8's proponents.

Lawyers for the two same-sex couples who successfully sued for the right to marry in Walker's court were reviewing the motion and did not have immediate comment.

Walker, a 67-year-old Republican appointee, declared Proposition 8 to be an unconstitutional violation of gay Californian's civil rights last summer. He retired from the bench at the end of February.

Rumors that the judge was gay circulated during the 13-day trial that preceded his decision and after he handed down his ruling.

Lawyers for Protect Marriage, the coalition of religious and conservative groups that sponsored Proposition 8, however, have not previously raised his sexual orientation as a legal issue. 

Protect Marriage general counsel Andy Pugno said that changed when the judge this month told a group of courthouse reporters about his 10-year relationship. The issue is not that Walker is gay, but that his relationship status made him too similar to the same-sex couples who sued for the right to marry, Pugno said.

"We deeply regret the necessity of this motion.  But if the courts are to require others to follow the law, the courts themselves must do so as well," Pugno added.

Walker said at the time that he did not consider his sexual orientation to be any more a reason for recusal than another judge's race or gender normally would be.

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Re: Supporters of Calif. same-sex marriage ban cite judge's sexuality
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 07:20:00 PM »
just stopped in to tehis thread to annouce i dont like these threads.  brutal distraction.  we arguing about where some dude puts his junk, while obama and boehnner argue about 380 mil while silver hits $45... jeebus, what is wrong with the world?

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Re: Supporters of Calif. same-sex marriage ban cite judge's sexuality
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Re: Supporters of Calif. same-sex marriage ban cite judge's sexuality
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 07:31:27 PM »
just stopped in to tehis thread to annouce i dont like these threads.  brutal distraction.  we arguing about where some dude puts his junk, while obama and boehnner argue about 380 mil while silver hits $45... jeebus, what is wrong with the world?


You're absolutely right.  You should go back to harping on the birther issue and start another thread about Sharon Angle singing.  Those issues are soooo much more important.

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Re: Supporters of Calif. same-sex marriage ban cite judge's sexuality
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 07:33:26 PM »

You're absolutely right.  You should go back to harping on the birther issue and start another thread about Sharon Angle singing.  Those issues are soooo much more important.

Exactly.  Or any number of other stupid conspiracy theories.  He lives in a very small world.

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Re: Supporters of Calif. same-sex marriage ban cite judge's sexuality
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 07:37:41 PM »
Exactly.  Or any number of other stupid conspiracy theories.  He lives in a very small world.


Agreed.

Have to disagree about the thread though.  Judges have to rule all the time on issues that affect them (ex: rulings on tax laws, etc.).  We all know there's bias inherent in the system, but I'm not sure there is a full proof solution for eliminating it. 

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Re: Supporters of Calif. same-sex marriage ban cite judge's sexuality
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 07:51:43 PM »

Agreed.

Have to disagree about the thread though.  Judges have to rule all the time on issues that affect them (ex: rulings on tax laws, etc.).  We all know there's bias inherent in the system, but I'm not sure there is a full proof solution for eliminating it. 

True.  I'm not saying he had to disqualify himself.  I think he should have disclosed it and let the parties address it before he made a decision on the case.  

Also, this situation is a little unique, because things like taxes apply to everyone, while homosexual marriage affects a tiny percentage of the population, which happens to include this judge.