The basic truth about bodybuilding success. ( brief and basic reality post)

[Howard]

Obviously, drug use is a factor in hardcore, elite level, bodybuilding. Every Mr  Olympia since Larry Scott won the first title in 1965, has used the enhancement drugs of their era. The reality is that we only have one Mr Olympia each yr while thousands of others train , diet and use similar drugs.If drugs were the end all/be all factor ,more bodybuilders would look a lot like that years Mr Olympia. They don't.

Every great bodybuilder has the right combination of size, shape and muscle separation to look incredible when on stage , under the bright contest lights. This look can only be "enhanced" by drugs , hard training and strict diet. For example, plenty of gym rats have been around 5'9" and been ripped at around 190 lbs. Only the top 0.1 of 1 % will ever look anything close to Frank Zane.

Arnold was Mr Olympia at a ht of 6'2" and around 225 - 235 in contest shape. Even at 90% of his heyday, he still looked pretty massive and impressive next to other pros with more pure mass and lower body fat% in the 1980 Olympia. Arnold spoke openly about how his body just flowed together and it "just worked" when on stage under the lights.

The reality is that the best bodybuilders are more then just numbers based on pounds of muscle and % of body fat.
If you have the right "look" under the lights, it will be obvious within the first few contests you enter.
Jay, Dexter, Victior,Heath, etc didn't have to ask, if they were good. After they hit the  stage, they were TOLD by judges selections they had the goods. If you are an , impressive BB, others will let you know. You won't have to go out of your way to find out, trust me .
If NOT, keep enjoying bodybuilding as a hobby or lifestyle and find another way to make a living.
Don't waste your life, $$$ and energy on something that isn't within your grasp.

[James28]

Cannot think of a more unfulfilling profession that than. Inject and twink for 12 months to spend 12k dieting down for a show where the 1st prize money is 10k. Come in 7th, get chucked a grand your way and spend the next 6 months moaning about how you were fucked over. Rinse, repeat.

[Secret Stack]

"i'm done with getbig" 

[Arthur Nus]

brief  (brf)
1. Short in time, duration, length, or extent.

Kinda like your interactions with females

[Howard]

Cannot think of a more unfulfilling profession that than. Inject and twink for 12 months to spend 12k dieting down for a show where the 1st prize money is 10k. Come in 7th, get chucked a grand your way and spend the next 6 months moaning about how you were fucked over. Rinse, repeat.

Good post.
The vast majority who gain the coveted pro card rarely make much $$$ directly from pro BB contests.

[polychronopolous]

"i'm done with getbig" 

This time I really mean it you guys.

[Howard]

This time I really mean it you guys.

Well don't go away mad...just go away

[obtuse_waiter]

gota be ripped and balanced

too much beef is not balanced

tallest with balance wins

arny

[DK II]

Howard, after all these years still as naive and gullible as a guy on his first day in the gym.

If you become a "successful" bodybuilder or not is determined by how reckless you are with your drug abuse.

Look at ugly trolls like Branch (or Jason) and tell me it's about muscle shape and conditioning.... 

[muscularny]

keep in mind one thing, a ton of guys use bunk garbage, i see it all over message boards, its sad as they are losing time and money all at once and to top it off risking even bigger health probs

[Firemuscle]

Howard, after all these years still as naive and gullible as a guy on his first day in the gym.

If you become a "successful" bodybuilder or not is determined by how reckless you are with your drug abuse.

Look at ugly trolls like Branch (or Jason) and tell me it's about muscle shape and conditioning.... 

 Exactly. Steady, consistant, long term drug addiction is the key to success in pro BB.

 Have good shape and all that shit is important, but it DEFINITELY take a backseat to the drug addiction factor.

 It's no professional bodybuilding, it's professional drug addiction.

[Firemuscle]

Obviously, drug use is a factor in hardcore, elite level, bodybuilding. Every Mr  Olympia since Larry Scott won the first title in 1965, has used the enhancement drugs of their era. The reality is that we only have one Mr Olympia each yr while thousands of others train , diet and use similar drugs.If drugs were the end all/be all factor ,more bodybuilders would look a lot like that years Mr Olympia. They don't.

Every great bodybuilder has the right combination of size, shape and muscle separation to look incredible when on stage , under the bright contest lights. This look can only be "enhanced" by drugs , hard training and strict diet. For example, plenty of gym rats have been around 5'9" and been ripped at around 190 lbs. Only the top 0.1 of 1 % will ever look anything close to Frank Zane.

Arnold was Mr Olympia at a ht of 6'2" and around 225 - 235 in contest shape. Even at 90% of his heyday, he still looked pretty massive and impressive next to other pros with more pure mass and lower body fat% in the 1980 Olympia. Arnold spoke openly about how his body just flowed together and it "just worked" when on stage under the lights.

The reality is that the best bodybuilders are more then just numbers based on pounds of muscle and % of body fat.
If you have the right "look" under the lights, it will be obvious within the first few contests you enter.
Jay, Dexter, Victior,Heath, etc didn't have to ask, if they were good. After they hit the  stage, they were TOLD by judges selections they had the goods. If you are an , impressive BB, others will let you know. You won't have to go out of your way to find out, trust me .
If NOT, keep enjoying bodybuilding as a hobby or lifestyle and find another way to make a living.
Don't waste your life, $$$ and energy on something that isn't within your grasp.

 Stupid post. Total bullshit. You sound like a gullible goober, not just in this post but in all your posts.

[DK II]

Stupid post. Total bullshit. You sound like a gullible goober, not just in this post but in all your posts.

spot on.

[#1 Klaus fan]

For example, plenty of gym rats have been around 5'9" and been ripped at around 190 lbs.

Sure. 

[Jaime]

Please explain Cutler, Banch and the like if bodybulding is anything to do with lines and shape.

It's about who is sad enough to take suicide drug regimes.

[pellius]

Obviously, drug use is a factor in hardcore, elite level, bodybuilding. Every Mr  Olympia since Larry Scott won the first title in 1965, has used the enhancement drugs of their era. The reality is that we only have one Mr Olympia each yr while thousands of others train , diet and use similar drugs.If drugs were the end all/be all factor ,more bodybuilders would look a lot like that years Mr Olympia. They don't.

Every great bodybuilder has the right combination of size, shape and muscle separation to look incredible when on stage , under the bright contest lights. This look can only be "enhanced" by drugs , hard training and strict diet. For example, plenty of gym rats have been around 5'9" and been ripped at around 190 lbs. Only the top 0.1 of 1 % will ever look anything close to Frank Zane.

Arnold was Mr Olympia at a ht of 6'2" and around 225 - 235 in contest shape. Even at 90% of his heyday, he still looked pretty massive and impressive next to other pros with more pure mass and lower body fat% in the 1980 Olympia. Arnold spoke openly about how his body just flowed together and it "just worked" when on stage under the lights.

The reality is that the best bodybuilders are more then just numbers based on pounds of muscle and % of body fat.
If you have the right "look" under the lights, it will be obvious within the first few contests you enter.
Jay, Dexter, Victior,Heath, etc didn't have to ask, if they were good. After they hit the  stage, they were TOLD by judges selections they had the goods. If you are an , impressive BB, others will let you know. You won't have to go out of your way to find out, trust me .
If NOT, keep enjoying bodybuilding as a hobby or lifestyle and find another way to make a living.
Don't waste your life, $$$ and energy on something that isn't within your grasp.

If there is anybody here that can guide us towards bodybuilding success it is you. Forget gh15 and his sushi and "ona" cycles you're the true god here.

We're not worthy.

[Howard]

Look guys, the reality is that for every one top pro, there are hundreds of wannabees taking as much (or more) of the same drugs.
The drugs make EVERY bodybuilder bigger and more freaky, etc.
It isn't that much different from benching with a modern bench shirt vs raw.

I have been involved in BB for over 30 yrs and have seen a lot of guys compete.
The best ones just have the ideal look under the lights on stage.

[Howard]

Howard, after all these years still as naive and gullible as a guy on his first day in the gym.

If you become a "successful" bodybuilder or not is determined by how reckless you are with your drug abuse.

Look at ugly trolls like Branch (or Jason) and tell me it's about muscle shape and conditioning.... 

I judged Branch years ago when he won a teen contest in Texas.
He had that freaky, muscular look with awesome LEGS even back then.
Obviously, he is a LOT more massive now, but he the muscular freaky look when he first hit the stage in contest shape.
Branch never had pretty shape and aesthetics but modern BB rewards a big , freaky looking guy .

MOST that compete just don't look that great under the lights on stage.
You either have it, or you don't.

[kh300]

Good post.
The vast majority who gain the coveted pro card rarely make much $$$ directly from pro BB contests.

So they try to get a supplement contract, to promote products that they know dont work, that they dont take, so they can lie to people to get them to waste their money.

Sounds like a rewarding 'job' to me.

[mass243]

So they try to get a supplement contract, to promote products that they know dont work, that they dont take, so they can lie to people to get them to waste their money.

Sounds like a rewarding 'job' to me.

And that differs from any other 'athlete' how?

[#1 Klaus fan]

And that differs from any other 'athlete' how?

It doesn't. Athletes are scum.