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GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« on: June 04, 2011, 07:09:25 AM »
He wasn't just built, but dense and lean as all get out. 


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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2011, 07:32:46 AM »
designer roids

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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2011, 07:45:02 AM »
Stop with those kind of threads, idiots.

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GH15- what is this guy on?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2011, 07:52:58 AM »


OMG hes huge!

I want to know what hes using... I think he uses some male hormones but im not sure!


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Re: GH15- what is this guy on?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2011, 07:59:01 AM »
I often see guys like this walk into some large buildings, I think they are called "Gyms" but Im afraid to step into those facilities...whats in there?

Thanks.

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Re: GH15- what is this guy on?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2011, 08:26:10 AM »
He had a bloody asshole for a while in the latest season, do you suppose that is the secret to epic swoles?

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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2011, 02:29:29 PM »
Stop with those kind of threads, idiots.

Why? Im generally curious. 

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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2011, 03:05:33 PM »
MJ was a freak at high school and college and when he went into t&f as a pro he was known for his mind blowing work ethic..other world class athletes marvelled at his almost unfathomed heart and determination and ability to be able to run dozens of fast one lappers in a session. he also had a strong will and his dedication to diet and detail was also unsurpassed.

the problem is/was that although his reign occurred well and truly before the designer roids scandal, he was indirectly linked to balco and the maurice green camp- which the latter has admitted to using the clear.

still, his performances werent that surprising given his youth and junior prowess. he may look "large" but like the others, these guys weigh a buck fiddy and its because they are so lean that they appear heavily muscled.

the so called great Ben Johnson weighed 72kg (160lb) at his peak- at 5'10".

in order to understand t&f drug usage, you need to know the history of it along with the drug testing regimes and key indicators before making an opinion on whether or not they used at all.

in MJs case, its hard to say yes or no, so go with no.

the one currently under suspicion who ticks all the boxes is carmelita jeter. Just today Jamaica's steve mullings ran 9.80 at the prefontaine meet. he ran a 9.90 earlier this year and has been outside of the top echelon of sprinting until now. he's 28 years old which is getting on the old side for PBs...big ones at that. MJ set his PBs at an older age but ran loads of top times close to that earlier in his career. Not so with mullings, however mullings was still running classy times whilst always appearing "fat" in athletics terms, and apparently was a lazy trainer- just going on pure talent- he was a freak junior.

jeter- like flo-jo, was always so-so..and now is running flo-jo times and has gone from being a feminine athlete to a muscular she-male..

of course, those who are ignorant will accuse me of being naive..but thats because they dont know the testing regimes and the types of tests they do. essentially they make it very difficult to cheat..partly because they store samples for 10 years and reserve the right to retro test those at any time.

its taken 30 years to counter the effect of systematic drug use in t&f and we are now seeing where modern athletes are really at.

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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2011, 03:31:47 PM »
MJ was a freak at high school and college and when he went into t&f as a pro he was known for his mind blowing work ethic..other world class athletes marvelled at his almost unfathomed heart and determination and ability to be able to run dozens of fast one lappers in a session. he also had a strong will and his dedication to diet and detail was also unsurpassed.

the problem is/was that although his reign occurred well and truly before the designer roids scandal, he was indirectly linked to balco and the maurice green camp- which the latter has admitted to using the clear.

still, his performances werent that surprising given his youth and junior prowess. he may look "large" but like the others, these guys weigh a buck fiddy and its because they are so lean that they appear heavily muscled.

the so called great Ben Johnson weighed 72kg (160lb) at his peak- at 5'10".

in order to understand t&f drug usage, you need to know the history of it along with the drug testing regimes and key indicators before making an opinion on whether or not they used at all.

in MJs case, its hard to say yes or no, so go with no.

the one currently under suspicion who ticks all the boxes is carmelita jeter. Just today Jamaica's steve mullings ran 9.80 at the prefontaine meet. he ran a 9.90 earlier this year and has been outside of the top echelon of sprinting until now. he's 28 years old which is getting on the old side for PBs...big ones at that. MJ set his PBs at an older age but ran loads of top times close to that earlier in his career. Not so with mullings, however mullings was still running classy times whilst always appearing "fat" in athletics terms, and apparently was a lazy trainer- just going on pure talent- he was a freak junior.

jeter- like flo-jo, was always so-so..and now is running flo-jo times and has gone from being a feminine athlete to a muscular she-male..

of course, those who are ignorant will accuse me of being naive..but thats because they dont know the testing regimes and the types of tests they do. essentially they make it very difficult to cheat..partly because they store samples for 10 years and reserve the right to retro test those at any time.

its taken 30 years to counter the effect of systematic drug use in t&f and we are now seeing where modern athletes are really at.

You're saying MJ was clean?

You are on this board you should be much smarter than that.

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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2011, 04:03:57 PM »
MJ was a freak at high school and college and when he went into t&f as a pro he was known for his mind blowing work ethic..other world class athletes marvelled at his almost unfathomed heart and determination and ability to be able to run dozens of fast one lappers in a session. he also had a strong will and his dedication to diet and detail was also unsurpassed.

the problem is/was that although his reign occurred well and truly before the designer roids scandal, he was indirectly linked to balco and the maurice green camp- which the latter has admitted to using the clear.

still, his performances werent that surprising given his youth and junior prowess. he may look "large" but like the others, these guys weigh a buck fiddy and its because they are so lean that they appear heavily muscled.

the so called great Ben Johnson weighed 72kg (160lb) at his peak- at 5'10".

in order to understand t&f drug usage, you need to know the history of it along with the drug testing regimes and key indicators before making an opinion on whether or not they used at all.

in MJs case, its hard to say yes or no, so go with no.

the one currently under suspicion who ticks all the boxes is carmelita jeter. Just today Jamaica's steve mullings ran 9.80 at the prefontaine meet. he ran a 9.90 earlier this year and has been outside of the top echelon of sprinting until now. he's 28 years old which is getting on the old side for PBs...big ones at that. MJ set his PBs at an older age but ran loads of top times close to that earlier in his career. Not so with mullings, however mullings was still running classy times whilst always appearing "fat" in athletics terms, and apparently was a lazy trainer- just going on pure talent- he was a freak junior.

jeter- like flo-jo, was always so-so..and now is running flo-jo times and has gone from being a feminine athlete to a muscular she-male..

of course, those who are ignorant will accuse me of being naive..but thats because they dont know the testing regimes and the types of tests they do. essentially they make it very difficult to cheat..partly because they store samples for 10 years and reserve the right to retro test those at any time.

its taken 30 years to counter the effect of systematic drug use in t&f and we are now seeing where modern athletes are really at.

I have met MJ on many occasions, and during his peak he was a beast.  About 185 at 5'11 and shredded to the bone...huge chest and arms for a sprinter, and just dense (not like drummond or greene...they were bloofy as gh15 would say)  I know my track and field too, worked with clyde hart, tommy smith, etc...

MJ was indeed a freak, but as I have gotten older, I've just come to the conclusion that its hard to believe he wasn't on something.  He was never linked to the balco camp though, don't know where you heard that. He was training in Texas when all those other guys were in LA with HSI.  Those guys (greene, drummond, boldon) were all using Balco products for sure.  

I did a few of Hart's workouts (hitting the cones on quarters at specific times)... holy crap.  I can't imagine doing those in the humidity of waco like MJ did...

Id love to believe that MJ was clean... but between the 95 season (when he did the 200/400 double at the worlds) and the 96 season he gained about 25lbs of muscle, lowered his pb in the 200 from 19.79 to 19.66 (broke pietro's 19.72), and then 6 weeks later went and ran that ridiculous 19.32 (I really wish he'd had any competition in the 400, he'd could've run a 42.9 or lower for sure).  In 99, after being injured, getting old, and about 15 lbs lighter than he was in 96-98, he ran a 43.9 in the semi at the worlds (where he essentially walked the last 20m) and then in the finals ran the 43.18 about a full second ahead of anyone else.  Too bad he didn't have a prime butch reynolds pushing him.

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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2011, 04:05:33 PM »
These guys an incredible amount of fast twitch muscle. It doesn't take much to blow them up.

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Re: GH15- what is this guy on?
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2011, 09:08:30 AM »
What I really wanna know is what GSP is on. He weighs in at 170 but fights at 190+. He is clearly on more steroids than his peers.

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Re: GH15- what is this guy on?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2011, 05:16:34 AM »
What do you beasts say?

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Re: GH15- what is this guy on?
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2011, 05:19:34 AM »
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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2011, 07:48:07 AM »
These guys an incredible amount of fast twitch muscle. It doesn't take much to blow them up.

True...

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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2011, 02:53:27 PM »
So I finally read Ben Johnson's late trainer's book Speedtrap.

Here's what he says about Ben Johnson's drug use:

- Dianabol was the main steroid used up to 1988. 5-10mg daily, 3 weeks on 3 weeks off. First steroid Ben Johnson took.

- Later Ben stacked the Dbol with Winstrol at 6mg daily (!). However he could only stay on even this low a dose for 7-10 days at a time since it made him tight and stiff. Even if there was no drug test all steroids would still be dropped some days out due to stiffness. Ben always came off 28 days before tests, an extra week longer than the accepted maximum detection window of 21 days for the steroid Ben used.

- Growth Hormone was prescribed by Dr Kerr (mentioned previously on this board - I think a few members here have been his patients). Later it was dropped as another doc, Astaphan, thought it didn't do anything.

- Testosterone aqueous (suspension) was administered "on occasion".

- Ben used an injectable combo of B12 and Inosine, both legal compounds.

- Prior to Seoul Olympics Ben used Furazabol and Ben's trainer doesn't have an explanation for the Winstrol positive but offers a few possible explanations (foul play, corruption, Winstrol trapped in fat being mobilized, Ben taking Winstrol behind his back etc).

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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2011, 03:02:22 PM »
He wasn't just built, but dense and lean as all get out. 



this specific sculpted build is a result of what most other spirnters use,,

hgh its a must in their arsenal
propioneta very low doses
masterona is the true compound of choice...winstrol is the lie,,
orals of varius kinds,,halotestin is a favorite compound among sprinters ,,again winstrol is the lie


gh15 approved
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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2011, 04:22:50 PM »
omg MJ clean... hahahhah
 
he was one of the best sprinters in history and as clean as the rest of them

anavar was a popular choice back then but now it's whatever they can get  by the drug police

a brief history of drugs in sports by the greatest track coach ever...
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny_grok/anabolic_athletics

hope that helps  ;D

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Re: GH15- what was this guy (and others in his sport) on?
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2011, 06:42:34 PM »
this specific sculpted build is a result of what most other spirnters use,,

hgh its a must in their arsenal
propioneta very low doses
masterona is the true compound of choice...winstrol is the lie,,
orals of varius kinds,,halotestin is a favorite compound among sprinters ,,again winstrol is the lie


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SO why did Ben Johnson get only caught for Winstrol? No halo, no prop, or masteron,