Vascularity! Clint Beyerle in 1975

[Coach is Back!]

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[Meso_z]

Deca, some test, anavar, d-bol and a few other compounds not necessarily all at once. Diets were high protein, high fat, low to zero carbs. Can really remembering anyone  dieting for more than 4-6 weeks regardless of condition.

Interesting, thanks.

So keto diets, low test/high anabolics are the way to achieve that look?

[Dr Dutch]

Wow I have almost forgotten Pierre vdsteen completely. Most ripped of his generation....

[Khofo]

Great Arab Genetics 

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=392429.0

[Khofo]

Deca, some test, anavar, d-bol and a few other compounds not necessarily all at once. Diets were high protein, high fat, low to zero carbs. Can really remembering anyone  dieting for more than 4-6 weeks regardless of condition.

Week 1--6     =  600 Primo E + 2g test E +  700Equipoise  + 600 dK
Week 7--13   =  800 Primo E + 2g test E +  700Equipoise + 800 dK
Week 14--20 =  600 Primo E + 2g test E + 1000Equipoise  + 100 Tren/day + 100 Dianabol/Day
Week 21--22 =  600 Primo E + 2g test E +  700Equipoise + 200 Tren/day +  200 win/day + clen
Week 23--24 =  600 Primo E + 2g test E + 500 Equuipoise + 200 Tren/day + 200 win/day + Anavar + clen

[GettingBig]

Nope..thats why they looked better back then.

they did ! the skin is so thine and you can clearly see muscle density/dryness.

taking slin out ! do you think its just the low cabrs and gear used back then or because they also worked so intense compared to today ? its amazing when you look and compare now and then !

[Coach is Back!]

Week 1--6     =  600 Primo E + 2g test E +  700Equipoise  + 600 dK
Week 7--13   =  800 Primo E + 2g test E +  700Equipoise + 800 dK
Week 14--20 =  600 Primo E + 2g test E + 1000Equipoise  + 100 Tren/day + 100 Dianabol/Day
Week 21--22 =  600 Primo E + 2g test E +  700Equipoise + 200 Tren/day +  200 win/day + clen
Week 23--24 =  600 Primo E + 2g test E + 500 Equuipoise + 200 Tren/day + 200 win/day + Anavar + clen

Finaplex (Tren) except it wasn't known as tren to the best of my knowledge. Not clen but rather T-3. Not much has changed. Don't forget maxibolin.

[WillGrant]

Week 1--6     =  600 Primo E + 2g test E +  700Equipoise  + 600 dK
Week 7--13   =  800 Primo E + 2g test E +  700Equipoise + 800 dK
Week 14--20 =  600 Primo E + 2g test E + 1000Equipoise  + 100 Tren/day + 100 Dianabol/Day
Week 21--22 =  600 Primo E + 2g test E +  700Equipoise + 200 Tren/day +  200 win/day + clen
Week 23--24 =  600 Primo E + 2g test E + 500 Equuipoise + 200 Tren/day + 200 win/day + Anavar + clen

What's this ?    - if you are infering thats a stack from back then then that discounts the low androgen theory ?

[njflex]

thank god for joe weider liver tabs,liquid aminos and weight gainer,,,

[Coach is Back!]

What's this ?    - if you are infering thats a stack from back then then that discounts the low androgen theory ?

Back then it WAS low in androgens + extremely low carbs. Again, dieting back then was 4-6 weeks of HARD dieting. Did I mention the amphetamines and cocaine?

[YoungBlood]

Fuck..what where those guys doing differently drug wise and diet back then..

Deca, some test, anavar, d-bol and a few other compounds not necessarily all at once. Diets were high protein, high fat, low to zero carbs. Can really remembering anyone  dieting for more than 4-6 weeks regardless of condition.

Coach, would you also agree (or disagree) that training styles had something to do with it?
For example, Arnold talked in his encyclopedia about how the current physiques (as he wrote the original yellow covered copy) lacked thickness that him, Franco and other guys had in his day. He said it was going heavy and keeping power training/lifting in his routine every so often, rather than just having the pendulum swing to either extreme of isolation movements or just hardcore powerlifting.

What's your take?

[Straw Man]

Joe/Stunt - I remember reading about CF Smith and that he trained with some version of HIT

I remember buying into it (HIT) because he was a medical doctor and figured if he was doing it then it must have some validity

was that accurate?

[WillGrant]

Back then it WAS low in androgens + extremely low carbs. Again, dieting back then was 4-6 weeks of HARD dieting. Did I mention the amphetamines and cocaine?

Good fat burners and I guess the coke would help by numbing it all a tad..

My next run Im going to drop all androgens to a low level and keep prop at 50mg EOD but use mainly anabolics like EQ nandralone tren mast as I now have a supply and see how it goes - the guys back in your day plus before had the best builds IMO - guys of today look like shite.

[Schmoe Buster]

Good fat burners and I guess the coke would help by numbing it all a tad..

My next run Im going to drop all androgens to a low level and keep prop at 50mg EOD but use mainly anabolics like EQ nandralone tren mast as I now have a supply and see how it goes - the guys back in your day plus before had the best builds IMO - guys of today look like shite.

X2, just take enough Test to feel good and then everything else should be the high anabolic rating drugs

[Khofo]

What's this ?    - if you are infering thats a stack from back then then that discounts the low androgen theory ?

1500 T/w
 It seems more reasonable