Author Topic: 2011 Olympia - Jay vs Phil - VIDEO comparison (Read 4939 times)

Iceman1981 · « **on:** September 16, 2011, 11:54:22 PM »

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Iceman1981 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2011, 11:56:45 PM »

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maxkane69 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:09:22 AM »

Quote from: Iceman1981 on September 16, 2011, 11:54:22 PM

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Jay Cutler make puke!
Jay Cutler is an embarrassament for this cult

Iceman1981 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:12:09 AM »

What a way for Jay to end his career, caught having oil in his arm lol. He brought it on himself.

kiwiol · « **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:18:49 AM »

No way Jay wins

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:16:55 AM »

Quote from: kiwiol on September 17, 2011, 12:18:49 AM

No way Jay wins

Why do you think? I think he wins on past history.

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #6 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:22:15 AM »

i dont think jay will win and if he wins fans wont let it go this time!!..

Royalty · « **Reply #7 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:22:35 AM »

Jay doesnt look as bad as I first was hearing.

I dont know why he felt the need to inject his biceps. I mean; jay competed toe to toe with Ronnie. Ronnie's biceps were bigger than Phil's biceps. So why did Jay feel the need to use the oil against Phil?

I guess they all do it. But just dont insult us by going overboard. Jay used too much.

JasonH · « **Reply #8 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:24:54 AM »

This is a close call - I've been reading a lot of posts on here this morning and a lot of people are saying Jay looks terrible but now that I've seen the video it's very hard to say.

We all know how Olympias can be won with torn biceps and to be fair, Jay's conditioning is still pretty spot on - he makes Phil look small in most of those poses.

Could go either way.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #9 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:40:14 AM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on September 17, 2011, 01:22:15 AM

i dont think jay will win and if he wins fans wont let it go this time!!..

I disagree he wins on past history although he is losing his hair.

kyomu · « **Reply #10 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:48:07 AM »

Jay doesnt look that bad in these video like pics.
But,Phil got thicker than last year without lose his separtion and aesthetic look.
So, jay cant do anything.

Also

It seems like Jay overdid his diuretic. because i dont see that fullness shown in the dayout pics.
If he showed out with that thickness. Maybe this battle could be more interresting.

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #11 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:56:26 AM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on September 17, 2011, 01:40:14 AM

I disagree he wins on past history although he is losing his hair.

if he does it will be like in 2007 when he won and 90% of bb fans were upset!!.. he looks better than 2007 this year but his competitors too look better.. imo jay lacks the gentics to be a dominant mr. olympia.. he deserved to win 2 times (at most) because of the lack of strong competition and not because he was/is one of the best mr. olympia.. against the current top pros jay deserves to win only when he is 100% on as he was in 2009.. this year he is not at his best and not close to it and it's crystal clear he injected something in his left biceps!!..

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:57:54 AM »

There is no battle. Jay should be banned from competition for 2 years, stripped from his pro status and left to try to requalify himself as a pro bodybuilder.

affeman · « **Reply #13 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:59:18 AM »

Seriously, Cutler deserves 4th at best. A complete mess top to bottom. No way he should beat Phil, Wolf or Vic. Kai would beat him too but he's way off.

Papper · « **Reply #14 on:** September 17, 2011, 03:19:17 AM »

Quote from: JasonH on September 17, 2011, 01:24:54 AM

This is a close call - I've been reading a lot of posts on here this morning and a lot of people are saying Jay looks terrible but now that I've seen the video it's very hard to say.

We all know how Olympias can be won with torn biceps and to be fair, Jay's conditioning is still pretty spot on - he makes Phil look small in most of those poses.

Could go either way.

Jay still has the size on phil. Wider rls and bigger rdb but he isnt spot on.

mass243 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 17, 2011, 03:55:58 AM »

I must agree guys; this is Phil's year.

Jay messed something.... though he developed peaks on his biceps in a year

New era has probably begun.

d0nny2600 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 17, 2011, 04:00:56 AM »

Ok watching this makes it appear that things are not as bad as it would seem. yes he has a fucked up bicep right now - ronnie won with obvious gyno/pregnant belly, columbo with 1 leg and a big tit and yates with torn to shreds arms.

Who knows what will happen.

WillGrant · « **Reply #17 on:** September 17, 2011, 04:04:31 AM »

See who drys out more or softens up tomorrow

DK II · « **Reply #18 on:** September 17, 2011, 04:53:09 AM »

Quote from: d0nny2600 on September 17, 2011, 04:00:56 AM

Ok watching this makes it appear that things are not as bad as it would seem. yes he has a fucked up bicep right now - ronnie won with obvious gyno/pregnant belly, columbo with 1 leg and a big tit and yates with torn to shreds arms.

Who knows what will happen.

QFT.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #19 on:** September 17, 2011, 04:57:06 AM »

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I don't see Jay beating him , in my opinion Heath is noticeably better in almost all poses. Jay's physique is not getting better and Phil's is. Phil simply outclasses Jay

d0nny2600 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:11:40 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on September 17, 2011, 04:57:06 AM

I don't see Jay beating him , in my opinion Heath is noticeably better in almost all poses. Jay's physique is not getting better and Phil's is. Phil simply outclasses Jay

Agreed to a point. I think Jay is maxed out and really pushed the boundaries for himself with gear and diuretics in 2009. I think now he is finished.

I still can't warm to Phil. He just looks like a bobbled headed michelin man. I don't think anyone really deserves to be considered "the best bodybuilder in the world" because in general most of them look like refried shit.

Jay without that infection is still a better Mr Olympia than Phil.

Bring back the 80s and 90s!!!

tendonitis · « **Reply #21 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:17:43 AM »

There isn't a single mandatory pose the fridge beats Heath in. Not one.
I really can't believe how much Phil has brought his back up over the years, his back double bicep shot is insane.

G_Thang · « **Reply #22 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:22:05 AM »

hahaha, jay looks like shit, and he doesn't even have the injuries ronnie and yates had. i still say they'll give it to him. give the pre to phil, jay dries and wins the 2nd night. you all know how it works.

chick got it straight to make the 2nd night count this yr when jay needed it.

che · « **Reply #23 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:37:03 AM »

Heath easily not even close , Jay looks like shit .