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Re: New 2012 IFBB rules for all pros and shows (including Olympia)
« Reply #75 on: September 23, 2011, 05:07:47 AM »
I would suggest the IFBB to:

- Ban "female bodybuilding".

- Ban bikini.

- Ban Mens Physique division.

- Ban "202's".

- Ban Mens Open.

- Fire Bob from MC.

- Hang the judges.

- Set the schmoes in the audience on fire.

- Arrest "Supplement promoters"/Drug pushers in the expos.

- Ban dwarf bodybuilders from participating. They can have their own "mr Dwarf" and "Night of the Midget Champions" if they want to, of course. They can figure that out on their own at the annual Dwarf Convention.

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Re: New 2012 IFBB rules for all pros and shows (including Olympia)
« Reply #76 on: September 23, 2011, 05:11:30 AM »
- Ban dwarf bodybuilders from participating. They can have their own "mr Dwarf" and "Night of the Midget Champions" if they want to, of course. They can figure that out on their own at the annual Dwarf Convention.

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Minimum height should be 5'10''.


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Re: New 2012 IFBB rules for all pros and shows (including Olympia)
« Reply #77 on: September 23, 2011, 05:14:51 AM »
I think almost everybody agrees that there were way too many competitors at the Olympia, and that it should be between 12-15 competitors in each division. The question is how to get this done.   Since we dont have anything official yet on how this is going to be, the following is based on a Top 3 qualification at the Olympia and Arnold, and only a first place qualification at all other shows.  If it is done this way, it may lower the number way below what the audience and fans are looking for.  

They can also consider having ONE competitor qualify at every contest (with the exception of three at the Olympia and the Arnold). That way, we dont go via a few contests (on the womens side of it) without any Olympia qualifier). In Figure, the last 5 contests would NOT have had anyone qualifying to the Olympia.

Here is what it can look like....

Mens Pro Qualifications

09-24 - Olympia (Jay Cutler, Phil Heath, Branch Warren)
02-19 - Flex Pro (Evan Centapani)
03-04 - Arnold Classic (Branch Warren, Dennis Wolf, Victor Martinez)
03-12 - Australian Pro (Dennis Wolf)
03-19 - British Grand Prix (Branch Warren)
03-26 - Spain Mr. Europe (Ronny Rockel)
04-16 - FIBO Germany (Dexter Jackson)
04-30 - Orlando Pro (Cedric McMillan)
05-28 - NY Pro (Kai Greene)
06-17 - Toronto Pro (Craig Richardson)
06-25 - Tampa Pro (Marius Dohne)
07-29 - Connecticut Pro (Troy Alves)
08-12 - Dallas Pro (Toney Freeman)
08-27 - Phoenix Pro  (Troy Alves)
09-10 - Tijuana (Ed Nunn)

At the 2011 Olympia, there would of been 15 men qualified.
    Only 12 would of competed.

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Mens 202 Olympia Qualifications

09-24 - Olympia (Kevin English, David Henry, Ed Da Silva)
11-06 - Sacramento Pro (Tricky Jackson)
03-19 - British Pro (Flex Lewis)
05-28 - NY Pro (Jose Raymond)
06-17 - Toronto Pro (Shaun-Joseph Tavernier)
06-25 - Tamapa Pro (Al Auguste)
08-05 - Jacksonville Pro (Vaughn Ettienne)
08-12 - Dallas Pro (Gaetano Cisterino)
08-20 - Greensboro Pro (Vaughn Ettienne)

At the 2011 Olympia, there would of been 10 men qualified.
  Only 8 would of competed.

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Womens Pro Olympia Qualifications

09-24 - Olympia (Iris Kyle, Yaxeni Oriquen-Garcia, Debi Laszewski)
03-04 - Ms International (Iris Kyle, Yaxeni Oriquen-Garcia, Alina Popa)
04-16 - FIBO Germany (Helle Nielsen)
06-17 - Toronto Pro (Brigita Brezovac)
06-25 - Tampa Pro (Cathy LeFrancois)
07-29 - Connectcicut Pro (Kim Buck)

At the 2011 Olympia, there would of been 8 women qualified and competed.
  
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Bikini Pro Olympia Qualifications

09-24 - Olympia (Sonia Gonzales, Nathalia Melo, Nicole Nagrani)
10-23 - Houston Pro (Shelsea Montes)
11-06 - Sacramento Pro (Amanda Latona)
11-20 - Ft. Lauderdale Pro (Nicole Nagrani)
03-05 - Arnold Bikini (Nicole Nagrani, Sonia Gonzales, Nathalia Melo)
03-19 - St. Louis Pro (Jennifer Andrews)
03-26 - Musclecontest Pro (Amanda Latona)
04-29 - Orlando Pro (Nathalia Melo)
05-07 - Pittburgh Pro (Jamie Baird)
05-20 - Louisiana Pro (Barbara Bolotte)
05-28 - NY Pro (Ali Rosen)
06-17 - Toronto Pro (Shelsea Montes)
06-25 - Tampa Pro (Diana Graham)
08-05 - Jacksonville Pro (Ali Rosen)
08-12 - Dallas Pro (Natalie Pennington)
08-27 - Phoenix Pro (Dianna Dalhgren)
09-10 - Tijuana Pro (Abbie Burrows)

At the 2011 Olympia, there would of been 14 women qualified out of 17 contests
  Only 13 women would of competed.

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Figure Pro Olympia Qualifications

09-24 - Olympia (Erin Stern, Nicole Wilkins, Heather Mae French)
10-23 - Houston Pro (Courtney West)
10-30 - Border States Pro (Teresa Anthony)
11-13 - Kentucky Pro (Cheryl Brown)
11-20 - Ft. Lauderdale Pro (Kristal Richardson)
Mar 4 - Figure International (Nicole Wilkins, Erin Stern, Ava Cowan)
Mar 12 - Australia Pro (Erin Stern)
Mar 19 - New Zealand Pro (Erin Stern)
Mar 19 - St. Louis Pro (Nicole Wikins)
04-29 -  Florida Pro (Cheryl Brown)
05-07 - Pittsburgh Pro (Cheryl Brown)
05-20 - Louisiana Pro (Candice Keene)
05-28 - NY Pro (Cheryl Brown)
05-28 - Cal Pro (Felicia Romero)
06-17 - Toronto Pro (Genn Strobo)
07-29 - Conn Pro (Genn Strobo)
08-05 - Jacksonville Pro (Erin Stern)
08-12 - Dallas Pro (Ava Cowan)
08-27 - Phoenix Pro (Candice Keene)
09-10 - Tournament of Champion (Nicole Wilkins)

At the 2011 Olympia there would of been 10 women qualified  out of 20 contests
   Only 8 would of competed.

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Fitness Pro Olympia Qualifications

09-24 - Olympia Pro (Adela Garcia, Tanji Johnson, Trish Warren)
11-20 - Ft. Lauderdale (Kizzy Vaines)
Mar 4 - Fitness International  (Adela Garcia, Tanji Johnson, Trish Warren)
Apr 9 - NY Pro (Camala Rodrigues)
Apr 16 - FIBO Germany (Regiane De Silva)
Jun 17 - Toronto Pro (Jodi Boam)

At the 2011 Olympia, ther would of been 7 women qualified.  
 Only 6 women would of competed.
Would of makes no sense.

The correct use is Would have

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Re: New 2012 IFBB rules for all pros and shows (including Olympia)
« Reply #78 on: September 23, 2011, 05:24:00 AM »
Take out the dwarfs and a handful would of competed at the O...

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Re: New 2012 IFBB rules for all pros and shows (including Olympia)
« Reply #79 on: September 23, 2011, 05:27:43 AM »
I agree with everything except the Bikini.

Keep them, some fine ass up on stage there, best thing the IFBB invented in the last 20 years.
Yes they should keep them BUT ban that fake tan which looks like someone threw mud, dirt and shits on them...get some natural sunlight and get onstage..no need for those fake tanning methods.

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Re: New 2012 IFBB rules for all pros and shows (including Olympia)
« Reply #80 on: September 23, 2011, 05:27:57 AM »
Would of makes no sense.

The correct use is Would have

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Re: New 2012 IFBB rules for all pros and shows (including Olympia)
« Reply #81 on: September 23, 2011, 05:28:55 AM »
Yes they should keep them BUT ban that fake tan which looks like someone threw mud, dirt and shits on them...get some natural sunlight and get onstage..no need for those fake tanning methods.

Or they could lose the bikinis and smear mud on each other.  ;D ;D

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Re: New 2012 IFBB rules for all pros and shows (including Olympia)
« Reply #82 on: September 23, 2011, 09:26:59 AM »
Kiss goodbye to a number of competitors who have been on the Olympia stage. Especially regarding figure and bikini.  Half of the girls are done.  They will never place fist at these contests nor the top three at the Olympia or the Arnold.  The 2012 Olympia will be fine, as the rules don't apply until January 1st, and there are quite a few bikini and figure contests until then to place in the top three.

But next year, expect much less competitors on that stage.  The goal is to bring more competitors to the stage, but if you have a qualified competitor competing, then why even try to compete against him or her.  What if one or two qualified figure or bikini competitors decide to compete respectively for six contests in a row.  There will be zero Olympia qualified competitors during that span.  Does it happen?  It did in figure this year for the last 5 competitions.

Expect never  to see Sonia Gonzales on the Olympia stage again, nor many others who might of had a chance.   Dennis Wolf, Victor Martinez, Dexter Jackson might not be on the O stage either, unless they choose to do another contest after the Arnold Classic.  For what? For the prize money? Come on.



actually I think Dexter should get a special lifetime qualification based on his career wins...three years ago Dex won something like five shows in one year.....I think the rule is god so that guys like Victor Martinez will compete and not just automatically show up at the Olympia every year

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Re: New 2012 IFBB rules for all pros and shows (including Olympia)
« Reply #83 on: September 23, 2011, 04:45:10 PM »

Here is Isaac's (Hardbody.com's) take on it...

I have no issue with this as it applies to the men’s division. I think the male bodybuilders competing only one time a year hurts promoters and shows. I am not a big fan of this as it applies to the women. Why? Let’s say Erin Stern, Nicole Wilkins, Ava Cowan or Candice Keene decide to enter shows throughout the year. They are already qualified for the Olympia but if they win a show there will be no other qualifications awarded. That means we could see around 10 women total in the Olympia. It’s highly unlikely that they will enter the majority of shows in 2012 but there’s nothing stopping them. I think one person from every competition should qualify. That means if the first place competitor has qualified second should get the qualification.

That would grant one competitor for each show to qualify for the Olympia. Awarding only the first place person and then opening the Olympia up to special invites is a little unsettling to me. It then opens up a can of worms of how they will be chosen, how many and who gets them. I totally understand and agree with the Olympia organizers wanting to cut down on the number of people qualifying for the show. Limiting the bikini, figure and fitness to just the winner makes me uneasy.

That would leave Alicia Harris who placed in the top six at the Olympia not even qualifying for the Olympia. Kristal Richardson and Heather Mae French did not compete in the 2011 Olympia. Courtney West finished tied for 16th, Felicia Romero was 15th, Cheryl Brown was 7th and Gennifer Strobo was 11th.

I haven’t done the breakdown on Bikini and Fitness but you get the idea. I think around 15 competitors for the Olympia is good as it’s intended to be the best of the best. We’ll see how this shakes out for the new year.

What’s your thoughts on the new Olympia qualifications?

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Re: New 2012 IFBB rules for all pros and shows (including Olympia)
« Reply #84 on: September 24, 2011, 06:22:24 AM »
Here is Isaac's (Hardbody.com's) take on it...

I have no issue with this as it applies to the men’s division. I think the male bodybuilders competing only one time a year hurts promoters and shows. I am not a big fan of this as it applies to the women. Why? Let’s say Erin Stern, Nicole Wilkins, Ava Cowan or Candice Keene decide to enter shows throughout the year. They are already qualified for the Olympia but if they win a show there will be no other qualifications awarded. That means we could see around 10 women total in the Olympia. It’s highly unlikely that they will enter the majority of shows in 2012 but there’s nothing stopping them. I think one person from every competition should qualify. That means if the first place competitor has qualified second should get the qualification.

That would grant one competitor for each show to qualify for the Olympia. Awarding only the first place person and then opening the Olympia up to special invites is a little unsettling to me. It then opens up a can of worms of how they will be chosen, how many and who gets them. I totally understand and agree with the Olympia organizers wanting to cut down on the number of people qualifying for the show. Limiting the bikini, figure and fitness to just the winner makes me uneasy.

That would leave Alicia Harris who placed in the top six at the Olympia not even qualifying for the Olympia. Kristal Richardson and Heather Mae French did not compete in the 2011 Olympia. Courtney West finished tied for 16th, Felicia Romero was 15th, Cheryl Brown was 7th and Gennifer Strobo was 11th.

I haven’t done the breakdown on Bikini and Fitness but you get the idea. I think around 15 competitors for the Olympia is good as it’s intended to be the best of the best. We’ll see how this shakes out for the new year.

What’s your thoughts on the new Olympia qualifications?


I think it should be 15 tops for the men.....10 tops for the women.....I like that the top three qualify for the Olympia and everyone else has to hustle....although maybe they should relax the rule a bit and have only first and second at each show qualify..if not, then a lot of worthy pros will lose out and some may just quit competing altogether if they feel they could never win first in any show