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Haha, Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate
« on: October 11, 2011, 03:27:03 PM »
Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate

President Barack Obama’s jobs plan is at risk of getting less than 51 votes Tuesday evening in the Senate as a handful of politically vulnerable moderates hold out on the president’s signature economic proposal.

Adding to the uncertainty, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) who supports the proposal, may be a no-show due to a scheduling conflict, potentially leaving Democrats short of the symbolic simple majority on the jobs bill.

Discussions are still fluid between wavering Democrats and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his leadership team — so it remains to be seen how the final vote shakes out. And even if Obama won support from his entire 53-member Democratic Caucus, he would have failed to reach the 60 votes needed to break a GOP-led filibuster.

But falling short of a simple majority in the Democratic-led Senate would be an embarrassment for the president and provide even more fodder for Republicans who have objected to the White House’s repeated calls to pass his jobs plan “now.”

Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) said last week he’d vote to filibuster the plan and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) is also expected to vote against it Tuesday evening. Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) criticized the bill, but says he will vote for cloture, to shut off debate.

“The present proposal looks good at first glance, it sounds good in a TV bite,” Webb said, “but in all respect to the people who put it forward, I do not believe it’s smart policy and it does not go where the real economic division lies in our country.”

Shaheen is scheduled to attend a previously planned event Tuesday in Boston,where she’ll receive the “New Englander of the Year” award by a regional business council. It remains to be seen whether Shaheen will return to Washington on Tuesday evening.

Without those four votes, there would only be 50 votes in support of cloture Tuesday evening because all 47 Republicans are expected to vote against considering the plan. Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) also has said he’d oppose the president’s jobs plan but has not said how he’d vote on the motion to break the filibuster.

And if Tester votes ‘no’ Tuesday evening, there could be only 49 votes in support of breaking a GOP filibuster on the $447 billion plan, which would spend money on infrastructure development and incentives for companies to hire and would be funded by a 5.6 percent surtax on people earning more than $1 million.

Other than Shaheen, the other senators face reelection next year in their red states where Obama remains unpopular and have generally raised concerns about some of the spending priorities in the plan.

Shaheen has told the leadership team that she’d return to Washington if the vote was close to the 60 needed to break a filibuster.

“The senator supports the measure and told leadership she is fully prepared to return to Washington if her vote is needed for passage,” said Jonathan Lipman, Shaheen’s spokesman.

Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), who caucuses with Democrats and is retiring next year, indicated he would vote for cloture but only so the chamber could debate the bill and offer amendments. If the current bill came up for a final passage, he would vote no.

“I don’t believe the potential in this act for creating jobs justifies adding another $500 billion to our almost $15 trillion national debt,” he said. “In fact, I think the most important thing we can do to improve our economy, reduce unemployment, create jobs is to being our national debt under control.”

Even Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), who supports the plan, acknowledged some defections in the ranks.

“We’re likely to lose two, three, four Democrats,” he told a Chicago TV station Monday. “I don’t know if we’ll pick up any Republicans. We’ve got to pass the president’s jobs package.”

House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Tuesday that he hopes Democrats who don’t like Obama’s jobs bill will put their differences aside and vote for cloture. But he acknowledged that failing to reach a simple majority holds political peril for Obama.

“I think you’re correct, that if we can’t get 51 Democrats to vote for it, it clearly would be argued by Republicans and construed by all of you as undermining the president’s message,” Hoyer told reporters at his weekly briefing.

Indeed, Republicans are already jumping all over it. Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said the Senate will “yet again prove there is not enough support for that proposal in the Senate and a rejection of the president’s demands to pass the bill in its entirety.”

“Hopefully, after the Senate proves that there isn’t support for the president’s plan, that the president may drop his all-or-nothing approach and begin to work with us on areas of commonality,” Cantor told reporters.

Asked Tuesday about the prospects of Obama’s jobs plan, White House spokesman Josh Earnest wouldn’t make any predictions but said he’s confident it will win “support of the vast majority of Democrats.” And he said Republicans must decide whether they’re standing with a “bipartisan, paid-for plan” that would cut taxes, put teachers and police officers back to work and fund infrastructure, or siding with millionaires and billionaires.

“If I’m a Republican senator and I’m in a situation where I’m trying to evaluate what decision I’m going to make,” Earnest said, “I’ve got to think to myself that it’s going to be pretty difficult to go back to my constituents and say, ‘Look, I took a look at the president’s plan. I know it’s bipartisan. I know he had a specific plan to pay for it, but I just had to vote against it because I was really concerned about the tax rate that millionaires and billionaires would pay.’”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65630_Page2.html#ixzz1aVyl40WH



Why do the Dems hate Downgrade so much? Don't they know that they have to pass this bill NOW?

Can't even round up the support he needs in his own party. The definition of a lame duck.

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Re: Haha, Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 04:28:29 PM »
Probably waiting for Barry to buy them out.

This is pretty much gonna end up a democratic talking point about how the "Republicans" blocked the bill that would have saved the world - yada, yada, yada.

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Re: Haha, Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 04:32:03 PM »
Does this mean you will still be unemployed and posting all the time?



Please go back to swinging from 333's nuts, stalker.

If you spent as much time studying as you do stalking people around this board you might find a full-time job that doesn't involve you tutoring for $5.50/hour.

You are a shitty, shitty troll. Creepy, to boot.

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Re: Haha, Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 04:38:43 PM »
Please go back to swinging from 333's nuts, stalker.

If you spent as much time studying as you do stalking people around this board you might find a full-time job that doesn't involve you tutoring for $5.50/hour.

You are a shitty, shitty troll. Creepy, to boot.



His post count on political seems to be up a lot lately.  I was told that 33 sprayed his ballsack with some repellent.  As he had quite a few mouths down there, they are all looking for a new home.

Looks like you might be a targeted replacement.  You'd better pm 33 for the brand - soon...

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Re: Haha, Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 04:40:40 PM »
It's what I like to call a yes or no question.
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Re: Haha, Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 04:42:14 PM »


His post count on political seems to be up a lot lately.  I was told that 33 sprayed his ballsack with some repellent.  As he had quite a few mouths down there, they are all looking for a new home.

Looks like you might be a targeted replacement.  You'd better pm 33 for the brand - soon...

;D

It looks like I really bruised his ego in that Wall St thread last week. Definitely need that repellent. Already played that "let's get stalked around Getbig by a creepy middle-aged schmoe" game before.  ::)


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Re: 2 Dems vote against Obama's jobs bill, fails to pass Senate. LOL!
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 04:44:21 PM »
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans have voted to kill the White House jobs bill despite weeks of campaign-style barnstorming by President Barack Obama across the country.

Forty-six Republicans joined with two Democrats to filibuster the $447 billion plan.

That vote was not final. The roll call was kept open Tuesday night to allow Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H. to vote. But it would have taken 60 votes in the 100-member Senate to keep the legislation alive.

The plan would have included Social Security payroll tax cuts for workers and businesses and other tax relief totaling about $270 billion. There also was to be $175 billion in new spending on roads, school repairs and other infrastructure — as well as jobless aid and help to local governments to avoid layoffs of teachers, firefighters and police officers.

Despite President Barack Obama’s exhortations, the Senate prepared to swiftly kill his jobs package Tuesday and the White House and congressional leaders were already moving on to other ways to cut the nation’s painfully high unemployment without raising taxes.

Obama’s $447 billion jobs bill didn’t figure to get a single GOP vote, even after his weeks-long campaign-style effort to drum up support for a measure he said would reduce the jobless rate from its current 9.1 percent.




Hahahahahahaha! Fucked by two members of his own party!

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Re: Haha, Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 06:01:24 PM »
Obama's Jobs Bill Fails to Advance in Senate Despite White House Push
FoxNews.com ^ | 10/11/11 | Trish Turner, Mike Emanuel &AP
Posted on October 11, 2011 7:52:18 PM EDT by ColdOne

President Obama's $447 billion jobs bill failed to clear a procedural hurdle in the Democratic-controlled Senate Tuesday night despite a White House push that accelerated in the 11th hour.

The bill received a simply majority of 51 votes but fell short of the necessary 60 to end debate. Sens. Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Jon Tester of Montana were the only Democrats to vote against the bill. Both of them are facing tough re-election campaigns next year.

Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., had said earlier that although he intended to vote in favor of ending the Republican filibuster, he did not intend to support the bill if it reached a final vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...






Yet MaoBama will still blame the GOP. 

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Re: Haha, Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 06:25:59 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/vt-sen-leahy-seek-maple-protection-law-181422461.html


Meanwhile - this is what the senate was doing.  70k to market syrup. 

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Re: Haha, Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 06:27:33 PM »


His post count on political seems to be up a lot lately
.  I was told that 33 sprayed his ballsack with some repellent.  As he had quite a few mouths down there, they are all looking for a new home.

Looks like you might be a targeted replacement.  You'd better pm 33 for the brand - soon...
I got an idea. How 'bout you get off my nuts?
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Re: Haha, Obama jobs bill may not get 51 in Senate
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 06:29:24 PM »
I got an idea. How 'bout you get off my nuts?

Maybe you can get Bama to pay for you to wash your nuts under the stim bill.