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Land of the slave - home of the fee
« on: October 06, 2011, 11:09:01 PM »
Calif. Appeals Court Approves Cell Phone Searches During Traffic Stops

In a case explicitly decided to set a precedent, the California Appellate court has determined police officers can rifle through your cellphone during a traffic violation stop.

This is not the first time such a law has been under scrutiny. In April, the Blaze told you about the extraction devices police were using in Michigan to download the entire contents of your phone.

You feeling safer yet, you fucking bovine, docile, apathetic, cretinous creatures. The sooner you are all rounded up & liquidated the better.
Fuck you & your imagined freedoms, that is both the US & the EU - burn in a pile of your own trash - fucking human waste.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/calif-appeals-court-approves-cell-phone-searches-during-traffic-stops/

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Re: Land of the slave - home of the fee
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 04:14:50 PM »
Calif. Appeals Court Approves Cell Phone Searches During Traffic Stops

In a case explicitly decided to set a precedent, the California Appellate court has determined police officers can rifle through your cellphone during a traffic violation stop.

This is not the first time such a law has been under scrutiny. In April, the Blaze told you about the extraction devices police were using in Michigan to download the entire contents of your phone.

You feeling safer yet, you fucking bovine, docile, apathetic, cretinous creatures. The sooner you are all rounded up & liquidated the better.
Fuck you & your imagined freedoms, that is both the US & the EU - burn in a pile of your own trash - fucking human waste.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/calif-appeals-court-approves-cell-phone-searches-during-traffic-stops/

PT

My phone is my property .. I would never just hand it over and if and when I ever get stopped .. my windows goes open only enough to pass my license and insurance card through and my doors are locked

one reason I love living in the countryside in a very remote area is that type of control is far from being an issue here

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Re: Land of the slave - home of the fee
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 04:34:01 PM »
This is disgusting... Absolutely disgusting. No way this is "reasonable search".


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Re: Land of the slave - home of the fee
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 04:50:49 PM »
Calif. Appeals Court Approves Cell Phone Searches During Traffic Stops

Fuck you & your imagined freedoms, that is both the US & the EU - burn in a pile of your own trash - fucking human waste.

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Your statement seems a bit harsh. What would you have folks do about this issue?

It is good to know one's cell phone is open to police scrutiny as if that has not always been the case with cell phones which log everywhere you use them and every communication you've engaged in. Big brother is watching! Anyone who thinks they have privacy is delusional. My only saving grace is that my life is so completely without interest to anyone that anyone who snooped into my phone, computer or what have you would be utterly bored to tears with what they would find there.

Maybe the cop would notice Getbig.com in my websites favorites on my smart-phone and suspect that I am communicating with a "terrorist" in India....just kidding you! But really, lighten up a little.

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Re: Land of the slave - home of the fee
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 11:54:18 PM »
Your statement seems a bit harsh. What would you have folks do about this issue?


You live in an alleged democracy, right?? There is your answer..........

I do not need to lighten up, when people sit back & let this kinda shit get worse by the day. When the Stormtroopers come down your street I DO NOT want to hear any screams of surprise.

Florida and Georgia are among the states that give no protection to a phone during a search after a violation has been committed. In particular, Florida law treats a smartphone as a “container” for the purposes of a search, similar to say a cardboard box open on the passenger seat, despite the thousands of personal emails, contacts, and photos a phone can carry stretching back years.
But after initially striking down cell phone snooping, California has now joined the list of states that allow cops to go through your phone without a warrant if they decide to impound your car.

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Re: Land of the slave - home of the fee
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2011, 03:21:59 AM »
American "brave soldiers"  in action:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/08/world/asia/in-south-korea-american-official-apologizes-over-rape-case.html


American "Soldiers" in South Korea raping teenage girls  :-X

In 1995 in Japan Americans raped a 12 yo girl  :'( :'(

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Re: Land of the slave - home of the fee
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2011, 03:14:15 PM »
You live in an alleged democracy, right?? There is your answer..........

I do not need to lighten up, when people sit back & let this kinda shit get worse by the day. When the Stormtroopers come down your street I DO NOT want to hear any screams of surprise.

Florida and Georgia are among the states that give no protection to a phone during a search after a violation has been committed. In particular, Florida law treats a smartphone as a “container” for the purposes of a search, similar to say a cardboard box open on the passenger seat, despite the thousands of personal emails, contacts, and photos a phone can carry stretching back years.
But after initially striking down cell phone snooping, California has now joined the list of states that allow cops to go through your phone without a warrant if they decide to impound your car.

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Alleged democracy is right. I apparently "fly under the radar" since I have never had my freedom violated as yet (not saying it can't or won't happen).

Technology is changing our lives....mostly for the better, however, sometimes it seems personally for the worse. The other day I received a traffic ticket in the mail. Apparently, I rolled through a stop while making a right turn on a red light (which is legal here if you come to a complete stop before turning). So here I am on choppy video in all my glory on my way home from my grandson's soccer game getting videoed and photographed doing a bad bad thing at an intersection. Thanks and pay up the $280 or go to court and try and prove the video lies. Incidentally, in the city of Portland and probably some surrounds there are video cameras on the streets watching one's every move. So don't be picking your nose when you think no one is looking, because they are. So far, that's not a crime though.

Like I mentioned before, smart phones are great tracking devices. If mine can pinpoint my exact location for me at anytime, it can do it for anyone else who wants to check out where I go and maybe what I do. Fortunately, I don't go anywhere or do much that is illegal, so I say "spin your wheels" checking me out if you want.

You can grouse about this stuff all you like. I am not so sure people in other countries have anymore freedom than we do though. It's Orson Wells 1984 and Big Brother is watching! What's your plan to counteract this?

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1984 is possibly the definitive dystopian novel, set in a world beyond our imagining. A world where totalitarianism really is total, all power split into three roughly equal groups--Eastasia, Eurasia, and Oceania. 1984 is set in Oceania, which includes the United Kingdom, where the story is set, known as Airstrip One.

Winston Smith is a middle-aged, unhealthy character, based loosely on Orwell's own frail body, an underling of the ruling oligarchy, The Party. The Party has taken early 20th century totalitarianism to new depths, with each person subjected to 24 hour surveillance, where people's very thoughts are controlled to ensure purity of the oligarchical system in place. Figurehead of the system is the omnipresent and omnipotent Big Brother.

But Winston Pillowtalk believes there is another way.

Incidentally, there has been nothing on the ballot allowing video camera surveillance for traffic violations or other questionable purposes. We, the people are supposed to get a vote in a democracy, but that isn't always the case.
 

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Re: Land of the slave - home of the fee
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2011, 10:48:36 PM »


Like I mentioned before, smart phones are great tracking devices. If mine can pinpoint my exact location for me at anytime, it can do it for anyone else who wants to check out where I go and maybe what I do. Fortunately, I don't go anywhere or do much that is illegal, so I say "spin your wheels" checking me out if you want.

You can grouse about this stuff all you like. I am not so sure people in other countries have anymore freedom than we do though. It's Orson Wells 1984 and Big Brother is watching! What's your plan to counteract this?



Smart phones are to be left at home if you are up to no good, this has been common knowledge for some time now. However, A mate of mine in an HMP in the UK has still met a shit load of people that SOCA managed to fuck over for 10/15 (years) just on the evidence gathered from their phone alone.
They put a big family tree in crown court, showing the connections, not between family members, but between phones  :o
The jury come back = guilty on all counts.

As far as freedoms go, I have a client who's brother works in the CBI, so I have a fairly good idea on what these guys are looking at. Let's just say if you are NOT Pakistani or involved in plotting explosions, other terrorist activities, you are not of real interest.

Now let's look at the UK shall we, more CCTV per capita than any other country in the world. The we have the "expansion of the right of investigatory powers" put in to power by 'Tony Blair' on a busy news day (not many had even heard of it).

Now come to Mumbai & show me the CCTV for over 22 Million of us (not including the slum dwellers, who do not show up officially). I can go from here (Andheri West) to the North of the island in complete anonymity (take the battery out of your phone & leave it at home). Try that in London, & the amount of times you will be caught on camera will make the shit in your lower intestines curdle.
Let's just make it easy - if you are in the city, either on the underground or the street/on a bus, you can be tracked in real time every step of the way, from camera to camera. Now that is freedom  ;)

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Re: Land of the slave - home of the fee
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2011, 11:34:30 PM »
Smart phones are to be left at home if you are up to no good, this has been common knowledge for some time now. However, A mate of mine in an HMP in the UK has still met a shit load of people that SOCA managed to fuck over for 10/15 (years) just on the evidence gathered from their phone alone.
They put a big family tree in crown court, showing the connections, not between family members, but between phones  :o
The jury come back = guilty on all counts.

As far as freedoms go, I have a client who's brother works in the CBI, so I have a fairly good idea on what these guys are looking at. Let's just say if you are NOT Pakistani or involved in plotting explosions, other terrorist activities, you are not of real interest.

Now let's look at the UK shall we, more CCTV per capita than any other country in the world. The we have the "expansion of the right of investigatory powers" put in to power by 'Tony Blair' on a busy news day (not many had even heard of it).

Now come to Mumbai & show me the CCTV for over 22 Million of us (not including the slum dwellers, who do not show up officially). I can go from here (Andheri West) to the North of the island in complete anonymity (take the battery out of your phone & leave it at home). Try that in London, & the amount of times you will be caught on camera will make the shit in your lower intestines curdle.
Let's just make it easy - if you are in the city, either on the underground or the street/on a bus, you can be tracked in real time every step of the way, from camera to camera. Now that is freedom  ;)

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Honestly, you’re killing me with all these acronyms. Let me guess, HMC = Her Majesty's Prison, SOCA = Serious Organized Crime Agency, CBI = Central Bureau of Investigation, CCTV = closed circuit television. I had to look these up. If I got any of these wrong, let me know.
 
You’ll get no argument from me when it comes to the U.K. and the number of CCTV. Everything I’ve read, confirms this. In addition the U.K. seems incredibly snoopy. I’ve read many articles about phone, cell phone and answering machine tapping by the media in the U.K. Thank you Rupert Murdock! It almost seems like everyone is snooping into everyone else’s lives in hopes of finding some juicy dirt. Crazy!

Like I said before, if someone wants to waste their time snooping into my life, they are bound to be bored shitless. What worries me more is someone getting something wrong. I checked my credit score recently. I noticed that I was a few points down from the top possible score because I supposedly had too much credit on revolving charges. I use my charge cards as a 30 day, no interest charge only. I happened to buy a new refrigerator and a couple big dinners out while my son was visiting in August, putting these items on a charge card, which I paid off before the next due date. If I wanted or needed to get this error corrected, I’d probably have to go through a huge riggamaroo.

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Re: Land of the slave - home of the fee
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2011, 12:37:00 AM »
My phone is my property .. I would never just hand it over and if and when I ever get stopped .. my windows goes open only enough to pass my license and insurance card through and my doors are locked

one reason I love living in the countryside in a very remote area is that type of control is far from being an issue here

Also, rough sex in heavily forested areas tend to be ignored by wildlife and law enforcement. Not that I ever engaged in such activities, but... well... ok let's keep this between us.

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Re: Land of the slave - home of the fee
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2011, 02:20:38 AM »
Also, rough sex in heavily forested areas tend to be ignored by wildlife and law enforcement. Not that I ever engaged in such activities, but... well... ok let's keep this between us.

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