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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2011, 03:55:10 PM »
Here is the problem guys:  

1.  These clowns are running a media and pr war, not a legal or real one.  So the hippies love this shit.  It takes away from talk about rapes, drugs, murder, etc and sets it back to somewhere else.  

2.  The cops look terrible in this.  It would be one thing if these kids were kicking down doors or fences, but they were sitting on the floor while a dozen other cops were nearby - they could not have broken the arm lock and arrested a few of these morons who refused to leave?  The image looks awful and in the 24/7 media world, that is what matters, for better or worse.  

3.  This is a pyscological fuck up by the cops.  This stupid OWS movement was dying down , was fractured, and was quickly losing steam.  Now - these fools are going to unit, have a rallying cry, sue the school and the PD, and have a new recruiting tool.  

4.  Rules for Radicals by Alinsky.  What these kids pulled was almost literally right out of that book.  having read that book twice - these morons set the bait for the cops for the overreaction like tossing red meat in front of a dog and they went for it.   Now - the issue will be the overreaction, not the fact that these idiots refused to leave.  

5.  You cant beat these marxists by force.   That wont work, it never does.   What you need to do is a combo of ridicule, psy ops, and sort of what like Schiff did.  

This is how you do it - Schiff peacfully, but forcefully  - DESTROYS these people.  This is what to do - get in their faces and tear their failed ideology apart and these people will be exposed for the morons they are.  




  

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2011, 11:50:37 PM »
Geneva says we can't spray our enemies in combat with pepper spray
 Yet it is perfectly fine to spray our own citizens!!!


(A very good point made on DU)

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2011, 06:55:50 AM »
Even with the fee hikes the UC schools are still some of the cheapest public schools in the country.

Maybe they should ask themselves why California shells out millions of dollars on illegals every year (they just passed their own DREAM act) while cutting school funding at the same time.



For comparable schools perhaps, but the tuition at say Towson is only 6-7K per year.

Not to mention they can go to a community college, get the prereq's out of the way, then transfer to a more expensive 4 year (something I wish I had done and saved lots of money).

No argument with the illegals and cutting money for schools - that's just pathetic.

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2011, 06:56:33 AM »
Geneva says we can't spray our enemies in combat with pepper spray
 Yet it is perfectly fine to spray our own citizens!!!


(A very good point made on DU)



I took a peek on DU and that seems to be a contention that they can't back up.

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2011, 12:55:46 PM »
Source: CBS News

(CBS/AP) SAN FRANCISCO - Two University of California, Davis police officers involved in pepper-spraying seated protesters are being placed on administrative leave as the chancellor of the school accelerates the investigation into the incident.
UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi on Sunday said she has been inundated with reaction over the incident, in which an officer dispassionately fires pepper spray on a line of sitting demonstrators.

Video of the incident was circulated widely on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter on Saturday, in which protesters flinch and cover their faces but remain passive with their arms interlocked, as onlookers shriek and scream out for the officer to stop.

The university's faculty association called on Katehi to resign, saying in a letter there had been a "gross failure of leadership."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57328362/officers


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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2011, 12:59:33 PM »
yeah, the mob mentality works with both the protesters, and the cops, who decide they are suddenly a paramilitary force, and that macing 18 year old girls is totally necessary.

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2011, 01:03:53 PM »
yeah, the mob mentality works with both the protesters, and the cops, who decide they are suddenly a paramilitary force, and that macing 18 year old girls is totally necessary.

What a failure of mature leadership all around. 


Schiff showed the way how to deal with this.  Send dozens of business people down there with job applications and this cow
D turn in to a decent thing.   





Having leftist union thugs attack leftist hippies works for no one.   

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2011, 01:15:25 PM »
 





Having leftist union thugs attack leftist hippies works for no one.   



lol, well that's one way to characterize things I suppose.

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2011, 01:19:09 PM »
See - schiff showed the way to deal with these people.   Schiffshowed the way.   Get in they're face and destroy them.

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2011, 07:57:05 AM »
UC Davis police chief on leave after pepper spraying
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 11/21/2011 | Jason Dearen




The president of the University of California system said he was "appalled" at images of protesters being doused with pepper spray and plans an assessment of law enforcement procedures on all 10 campuses, as two police officers and the police chief were placed on administrative leave.

"Free speech is part of the DNA of this university, and non-violent protest has long been central to our history," UC President Mark G. Yudof said in a statement Sunday in response to the spraying of students sitting passively at UC Davis. "It is a value we must protect with vigilance."

Yudof said it was not his intention to "micromanage our campus police forces," but he said all 10 chancellors would convene soon for a discussion "about how to ensure proportional law enforcement response to non-violent protest."


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See - the cops played right in to the hands of those commies.   Dumb Dumb Dumb 

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2011, 01:26:38 PM »
Just like I thought....no mainstream media coveage to speak of.  Avg person on the street doesn't even know this happened.

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2011, 01:33:26 PM »
I've seen this all over the place.   



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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2011, 01:36:04 PM »
I've seen this all over the place.   




Other than the net and a couple of shorts on the nightly news, I haven't.  With as fast as the news cycle is, this will be most likely completely forgotten in a week or so at most.

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2011, 01:39:01 PM »
Other than the net and a couple of shorts on the nightly news, I haven't.  With as fast as the news cycle is, this will be most likely completely forgotten in a week or so at most.

Oh agreed - the financial armageddon is going to take stage again.   

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #64 on: November 22, 2011, 06:23:37 AM »
Its about the media and accepted narrative of all of this crap.   No different than the way the MSM was to create the fake narrative about obama.   That bullshit narrative is why we are stuck with this asshole - its all perception.

Now the perception will be that moron college kids were treated horribly by even worse cops.   You watch.   

Nah, the reasonable people know these videos from the protestors are edited or conveniently start at moments like this. It's the ignorant ones that get upset about it...

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #65 on: November 22, 2011, 06:27:21 AM »
Nah, the reasonable people know these videos from the protestors are edited or conveniently start at moments like this. It's the ignorant ones that get upset about it...

i have seen this all over the news.   These morons are media savy and waging PR wars.   Watch the lawsuits start flying.   

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Re: I don't support OWS - but this is pure bullshit.
« Reply #66 on: November 22, 2011, 06:51:13 AM »
yeah it's all over the news now.   Very aggressive action on the part of the police, and from the audio, it sounded like a (poor) judgment call on the scene.