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HH6 - hear anything about this?
« on: November 25, 2011, 02:58:19 PM »
Military advocates decry ‘illegal’ early terminations of 157 Air Force majors
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Posted on November 25, 2011 5:17:20 PM EST by Sub-Driver

Military advocates decry ‘illegal’ early terminations of 157 Air Force majors 44 mins ago

The Chapman University of Military Law and its associated AMVETS Legal Clinic are blowing the whistle on what they say is an injustice set to be perpetrated on 157 Air Force majors on the last day of November.

“The Obama administration has ordered massive reductions in forces, resulting in many officers who are near retirement being involuntarily separated without retirement or medical benefits,” explained institute director Maj. Kyndra Rotunda.

The Department of Defense specifies that service members within six years of retirement normally would be retained and allowed to retire on time with benefits, unless extenuating circumstances exist such as disciplinary issues.

According to lawyers at Chapman and the AMVETS Legal Clinic, the Air Force has deviated from the six-year protection “without any legal authority.”

“At the heart of the matter, is whether the Secretary of the Air Force [Michael Donley] can ignore protections that exist in governing regulations,” Rotunda told The Daily Caller. “The Air Force position is that yes, he may. Our position is that nobody is above the law.”

Air Force spokesman Michael Dickerson explained to TheDC that “selective continuation” is the process which has resulted in the premature separation of these 157 majors. According to Dickerson, officers who fail to get a promotion two times in a row are subject to involuntary discharge — unless they are within two years of qualifying for retirement. Officers subject to discharge can be retained if tapped for continuation by a selection board — it is at these selection boards where officers six years to retirement normally are retained.

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BTW - fuck Obama and every commie wretch who plans on voting for this.

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Re: HH6 - hear anything about this?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2011, 03:24:18 PM »
So instead of cutting waste out of the defense budget, they decide to screw the guys who fight their wars?  >:(

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Re: HH6 - hear anything about this?
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2011, 03:24:40 PM »
just to be clear - 33, you call for the very drastic cutting of HALF of US military - in only 5 years.

Things like "you 147 have to retire early" would be nothing compared to "You 10 million are immediately terminated and unemployed, go home!"

Make up your mind.  He's slashing the military, as you proposed.  I suppose there is some logic in your head where you slash 50% of military jobs, but nobody loses their jobs?  ???

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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2011, 03:29:52 PM »
just to be clear - 33, you call for the very drastic cutting of HALF of US military - in only 5 years.

Things like "you 147 have to retire early" would be nothing compared to "You 10 million are immediately terminated and unemployed, go home!"

Make up your mind.  He's slashing the military, as you proposed.  I suppose there is some logic in your head where you slash 50% of military jobs, but nobody loses their jobs?  ???

LOL dude, I hope you were exaggerating; the entire US federal government employs like what? 3 million people?

ANYWAY, I'm sure there is a logical way to cut the federal budget without screwing over the guys who fight politicians' wars. Hell, IIRC, we could balance the budget TODAY without so much as touching Social Security, Medicare, and security spending.

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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2011, 05:15:52 PM »
Its coming...I tell folks all the time. Time to step away from the table and loose weight....wire your shit tight because ucle barry wants to fire u. I fully expect the defense cuts from the super commitee to get revoked but cuts are  coming. I'm in a non-combat arms unit currently ( firts time in 19 years) and we have people who have never deployed...we're a senior unit with few lower enlisted or junior officers. Once they firmly gave us another deployment date we had plenty of folks scurrying to find medical reasons not to deploy. If u can't deploy they're gonna start cutting them first. As for the AF guys....the AF has been cutting dead weight for the last 5 years. If u don't fly...support flyers or willing to deploy..they're gonna find u and cut u. It sucks but I suspect that some...some of these guys could have done something to insulate themselves from the cuts. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2011, 10:39:34 AM »
157 Air Force Majors terminated without retirement benefits
The American Thinker ^ | 11-25-11 | Thamas Lifson




One of the best ways to destroy American military capabilities would be to convince career military personnel -- both officers and enlisted -- that their commitment to service will not be rewarded with the retirement benefits they have earned by their faithful obedience to orders, no matter the personal cost or risks they endure. The Obama administration seems to be ready to destroy the belief that service will be rewarded as faithfully as duty was performed, one step at a time.

The latest step in that direction is the announcement that 157 Air Force majors will be terminated prior to retirement, without the opportunity to complete the 20 full years of service necessary to qualify for retirement pay. Caroline May of the Daily Caller writes:

The Chapman University of Military Law and its associated AMVETS Legal Clinic are blowing the whistle on what they say is an injustice set to be perpetrated on 157 Air Force majors on the last day of November.

"The Obama administration has ordered massive reductions in forces, resulting in many officers who are near retirement being involuntarily separated without retirement or medical benefits," explained institute director...


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Re: HH6 - hear anything about this?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2011, 10:52:15 AM »
just to be clear - 33, you call for the very drastic cutting of HALF of US military - in only 5 years.

Things like "you 147 have to retire early" would be nothing compared to "You 10 million are immediately terminated and unemployed, go home!"

Make up your mind.  He's slashing the military, as you proposed.  I suppose there is some logic in your head where you slash 50% of military jobs, but nobody loses their jobs?  ???

Lets see 180 -

Solyndra got 500 Million to reward corrupt obama donors. 

500 million divided by 157   - do the fucking math moron. 
 

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2011, 11:01:40 AM »
this was done before in the early 1990's,i not sure but i don't think it was obama's fault

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2011, 02:26:10 PM »
hh6, what do you think of 333386's desire to slash the military spending by 50% in 5 years?

Unrealistic?  crazy?

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2011, 06:35:32 PM »
this was done before in the early 1990's,i not sure but i don't think it was obama's fault

Yeah..under another douchbag and they were bought out. If u have 2-3 years to retirement there are regs that can't be violated. Barry can make all the lib douchbag rules he wants but Congress controls this stuff. They're going to have to buy them out.
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Re: HH6 - hear anything about this?
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2011, 12:39:39 PM »
This is terrible.