Is this the end of Ron Paul?

[Dos Equis]

I don't think his comments are controversial. 

Paul Defends Past Criticism of AIDS Patients, Says Support in Iowa Is Strong
Published January 01, 2012
FoxNews.com
 
Ron Paul on Sunday defended controversial comments he made about AIDS patients in a 1987 book, while also disputing indications from recent polls that his support is slipping in Iowa.

The Texas congressman wrote in his book, "Freedom Under Siege," that people with sexually transmitted diseases like AIDS bear some responsibility for their condition and should not burden others with the cost of their care.

"The individual suffering from AIDS certainly is a victim -- frequently a victim of his own lifestyle -- but this same individual victimizes innocent citizens by forcing them to pay for his care," he wrote.

Asked about the comments on "Fox News Sunday," Paul said: "I don't know how you can change science." Sexually transmitted diseases are "caused by sexual activity," he said, and "in a free society people do dumb things, but it isn't to be placed as a burden on other people, innocent people."

"Why should they have to pay for the consequences?" he said.

Paul called that idea a "socialistic attitude" and said insurance companies should determine coverage. "The market should handle this," he said.

The congressman said the law certainly shouldn't deny AIDS patients coverage, but suggested they should be subject to the same considerations insurance companies make for other groups -- like smokers.

"You don't have a right to demand that somebody else take care of you because of your habits," Paul said.
 
Paul also defended a passage from the same book that suggested victims of sexual harassment should quit.

"They have the right to work there or not work there," he said, adding that federal law does not need to cover sexual harassment as violence in the workplace is already prohibited.

The latest Des Moines Register poll shows Paul in second place in Iowa, trailing Mitt Romney by just 2 points. However, the final two days of polling in the four-day poll show Paul slipping into third place and Rick Santorum moving up into second.

Paul's hands-off approach to foreign policy, as well as controversial writings, such as in his 1987 book and other newsletters which he has since distanced himself from, have drawn criticism in recent weeks.

But Paul said "our numbers aren't going to go down," claiming his supporters are more loyal than the supporters of his competitors.
 
"They don't desert," he said. "They're not going to leave us, as they have with the other ones ... so I think our numbers will continue to grow, even in these last couple days."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/01/paul-defends-book-passage-on-aids-patients-says-iowa-support-strong/

[Bindare_Dundat]

lol

This is how they fucked him on the anti Isreal and racism stuff.


There is nothing wrong with what hes saying here. Anyone that doesn't practice safe sex, or does intravenous drug use with dirty needles is a victim of their own lifestyle. That is what he means. That has nothing to do with making homophobic statements. The same applies for anything else we do to ourselves that can potentially harm us. We cant then turn around and expect others to clean up our messes. The country is a slave to political correctness. Cant people fucking read anymore...

and Santorum serging, please...all manipulation of numbers and hype.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Just another mistake I guess. Maybe they should be more carefull about what gets printed. Too bad the damage is already done.  


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...inal-iowa-poll

*** Paul talks Civil Rights Act, Iran, and third-party bid: Meanwhile, on CNN this morning, Paul was asked about his opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He said the country was better off without Jim Crow laws, but said the Civil Rights Act “destroyed the principle of private property and private choices.” He added that it creates the slippery slope of the government coming into people’s bedrooms. “It is the government that causes so much of the racial tensions,” he said. On Iran and it acquiring nuclear weapons: “I don’t want them to have a weapon… We just need to be more cautious… We don’t need a war in Iran carelessly.” And Paul once again didn’t rule out a third-party presidential bid, if he doesn’t become the GOP nominee. “I don’t like absolutes,” he said. “I have no plans on doing it.” Paul added, “On Tuesday, we’ll find out a lot more on the future of this election.” *** EDITOR'S NOTE *** This item mistakenly said earlier today that Paul had said the country was better "with" Jim Crow laws. That was a typo and has since been fixed. He said that the country was better off "without" Jim Crow laws.

[Shockwave]

Just another mistake I guess. Maybe they should be more carefull about what gets printed. Too bad the damage is already done.  


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...inal-iowa-poll

*** Paul talks Civil Rights Act, Iran, and third-party bid: Meanwhile, on CNN this morning, Paul was asked about his opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He said the country was better off without Jim Crow laws, but said the Civil Rights Act “destroyed the principle of private property and private choices.” He added that it creates the slippery slope of the government coming into people’s bedrooms. “It is the government that causes so much of the racial tensions,” he said. On Iran and it acquiring nuclear weapons: “I don’t want them to have a weapon… We just need to be more cautious… We don’t need a war in Iran carelessly.” And Paul once again didn’t rule out a third-party presidential bid, if he doesn’t become the GOP nominee. “I don’t like absolutes,” he said. “I have no plans on doing it.” Paul added, “On Tuesday, we’ll find out a lot more on the future of this election.” *** EDITOR'S NOTE *** This item mistakenly said earlier today that Paul had said the country was better "with" Jim Crow laws. That was a typo and has since been fixed. He said that the country was better off "without" Jim Crow laws.

Those people know exactly what they do. It was probably calculated.

[240 is Back]

they bash Ron paul for wedge issues that affect few.

they bash newt and mitt for their actual liberal POLICY.  You know, laws they passed..

They grab a few quotes from 25 years ago on ron paul and ignore his 25 years of voting strict constitution.

[TheGrinch]

Congrats to Mitt for wining Iowa and the overall GOP nomination..

[Dos Equis]

I watched his interview today with Chris Wallace.  He really struggles to talk about anything other than the economy.  His talk about sexual harassment beginning at 5:35 was pretty alarming.  He said in his book that victims of sexual harassment should just quit.  I had to listen to the clip again just to ensure I heard him correctly.  I agree with him about people abusing sexual harassment claims, but he said victims who haven't been sexually assaulted should just quit.  That's crazy talk. 

[Hugo Chavez]

I watched his interview today with Chris Wallace.  He really struggles to talk about anything other than the economy.  His talk about sexual harassment beginning at 5:35 was pretty alarming.  He said in his book that victims of sexual harassment should just quit.  I had to listen to the clip again just to ensure I heard him correctly.  I agree with him about people abusing sexual harassment claims, but he said victims who haven't been sexually assaulted should just quit.  That's crazy talk. 

HOLY FUCK... By what measure does this assclown Wallace say that Paul has fallen to third place? 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_primary-1588.html

Santorum   Really...  morons...

[Bindare_Dundat]

I watched his interview today with Chris Wallace.  He really struggles to talk about anything other than the economy.  His talk about sexual harassment beginning at 5:35 was pretty alarming.  He said in his book that victims of sexual harassment should just quit.  I had to listen to the clip again just to ensure I heard him correctly.  I agree with him about people abusing sexual harassment claims, but he said victims who haven't been sexually assaulted should just quit.  That's crazy talk. 

Yeah, Im trying to catch all the logic behind that statement but cant find it. Terrrible explaination.

[Dos Equis]

Yeah, Im trying to catch all the logic behind that statement but cant find it. Terrrible explaination.

He's a very smart man.  I think he just hasn't spent the time to really focus on anything outside of the economy.  He's actually pretty fortunate that some of this stuff hasn't been discussed during the debates. 

[Hugo Chavez]

Anybody wondering why Fox's ratings are falling, just watch this video.  Watch Wallace, out of his extreme hate of Paul, happy to take on the stance of a far left liberal just to oppose Paul.  Fucking wow....

How long has Wallace been with Fox and he doesn't get his own audience?  Douchebag extraordinaire....  Even if you don't like Paul, you don't challenge him from a far left stance.  Rightwingers should consider Wallace relevantly dead even if they don't like Paul.  In this interview alone, Wallace furthered causes of the far left more than he damaged Ron Paul.

[Hugo Chavez]

also, did you notice in that interview with Wallace that every single question was an attack?  Really Wallace, you can't take the time for one single question on the positive?  All you had was a list of attack points to go down?

[Soul Crusher]

Absurd interview.    Wallace should be ashamed f himself. 

[Dos Equis]

I didn't have a problem with anything Wallace asked him.  He's fortunate to have gotten so much airtime throughout the campaign.  So much for the media (and Fox) ignoring him. 

[Bindare_Dundat]

I didn't have a problem with anything Wallace asked him.  He's fortunate to have gotten so much airtime throughout the campaign.  So much for the media (and Fox) ignoring him. 

Why wouldnt he get air time, hes tied for first. Even they cant ignore that fact but you ignore  that for the better part of a week and a half, the only thing discussed were 20 something year old newsletters and constant bashing,  mischarachterization and belittlement. Everything he had to offer while campaining was almost completly ignored and overshadowed by the unrelenting negative attacks. Hes still being asked if hell run third party for crying out loud. That is not important news.

[Dos Equis]

Why wouldnt he get air time, hes tied for first. Even they cant ignore that fact but you ignore  that for the better part of a week and a half, the only thing discussed were 20 something year old newsletters and constant bashing,  mischarachterization and belittlement. Everything he had to offer while campaining was almost completly ignored and overshadowed by the unrelenting negative attacks. Hes still being asked if hell run third party for crying out loud. That is not important news.

He should get air time after polling so well in Iowa.  Nationally, he was below ten percent for most of the campaign.  Today he's at 12 percent.  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

He has shown zero possibility of being the nominee.  In spite of that, he's all over the media, getting a slew of interviews, including a plethora of interviews on Fox.  He was invited to every debate.  So now that he has gotten more exposure than his performance warrants, it's the kinds of questions people have problems with?  Seriously?   

Everything they've asked him about is legitimate.  Every candidate gets asked about "controversy."  People were all over the Cain sexual harassment nonsense.  This isn't any different than what Cain went through.  Actually it's much lighter IMO. 

[240 is Back]

I watched his interview today with Chris Wallace.  He really struggles to talk about anything other than the economy. 

9.
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Cain didn't know shit about anything except 999, and repubs were cool with that.

Ron Paul knows MUCH More about the eocnomy than Cain, and suddenly "He's so one-dimensional"

LOLZERS.  ity's gonna be cold in iowa tomorrow.  Let's see how dedicated Romney's crowd is.