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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #75 on: June 07, 2011, 08:35:23 AM »
GM chief pushing for higher gas taxes. (Obama Motors Shafts Public)
The Detroit News ^ | 06-07-11 | David Shepardson




Detroit — General Motors Co. CEO Dan Akerson wants the federal gas tax boosted as much as $1 a gallon to nudge consumers toward more fuel-efficient cars, and he's confident the government will soon shed its remaining 26 percent stake in the once-bankrupt automaker.

"I actually think the government will be out this year — within the next 12 months, hopefully within the next six months," Akerson said in a two-hour interview with The Detroit News last week.

He is grateful for the government's rescue of GM — "I have nothing but good things to say about them" — but Akerson said the time for that relationship to end is coming because it's wearing on GM.

“It’s kind of like your in-laws: It was a nice long weekend. We didn’t say a week,” Akerson said with a laugh.

And while he is eager to say goodbye to the government as a part owner of GM, Akerson would like to see it step up to the challenge of setting a higher gas tax, as part of a comprehensive energy policy.

A government-imposed tax hike, Akerson believes, will prompt more people to buy small cars and do more good for the environment than forcing automakers to comply with higher gas-mileage standards.


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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #76 on: June 07, 2011, 08:37:41 AM »
So since they can't get people to buy the cars they want us to, tax gas more to make us ::)

How much more crony capitalism can GM get?
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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #77 on: June 07, 2011, 08:42:47 AM »
So since they can't get people to buy the cars they want us to, tax gas more to make us ::)

How much more crony capitalism can GM get?

Should have let these assholes collapse.   

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #78 on: June 07, 2011, 09:01:56 AM »
President Obama’s phony accounting on the auto industry bailout
By Glenn Kessler


(Charles Dharapak/AP)

 
“Chrysler has repaid every dime and more of what it owes American taxpayers for their support during my presidency.”

— President Obama, June 4, 2011

This post has been updated.

With some of the economic indicators looking a bit dicey, President Obama traveled to Ohio last week to tout what the administration considers a good-news story: the rescue of the domestic automobile industry. In fact, he also made it the subject of his weekly radio address.

We take no view on whether the administration’s efforts on behalf of the automobile industry were a good or bad thing; that’s a matter for the editorial pages and eventually the historians. But we are interested in the facts the president cited to make his case.

What we found is one of the most misleading collections of assertions we have seen in a short presidential speech. Virtually every claim by the president regarding the auto industry needs an asterisk, just like the fine print in that too-good-to-be-true car loan.

Let’s look at the claims in the order in which the president said them.

“Chrysler has repaid every dime and more of what it owes American taxpayers for their support during my presidency — and it repaid that money six years ahead of schedule.  And this week, we reached a deal to sell our remaining stake. That means soon, Chrysler will be 100 percent in private hands.”
Wow, “every dime and more” sounds like such a bargain. Not only did Chrysler pay back the loan, with interest — but the company paid back even more than they owed. Isn’t America great or what?

Not so fast. The president snuck in the weasel words “during my presidency” in his statement. What does that mean?

According to the White House, Obama is counting only the $8.5 billion loan that he made to Chrysler, not the $4 billion that President George W. Bush extended in his last month in office. However, Obama was not a disinterested observer at the time. According to The Washington Post article on the Bush loan, the incoming president called Bush’s action a “necessary step . . . to help avoid a collapse of our auto industry that would have had devastating consequences for our economy and our workers.”

Under the administration’s math, the U.S. government will receive $11.2 billion back from Chrysler, far more than the $8.5 billion Obama extended.

Through this sleight-of-hand accounting, the White House can conveniently ignore Bush’s loan, but even the Treasury Department admits that U.S. taxpayers will not recoup about $1.3 billion of the entire $12.5 billion investment when all is said and done.

The White House justifies not counting the Bush money because, it says, that money was completely spent when Obama was making a tough political decision on whether to extend another loan. In other words, a decision to do nothing at the time would have resulted in the immediate loss of the $4 billion that Bush had extended.

This is chicanery. Under the president’s math, Chrysler paid back 100 percent of Obama’s loan and less than 70 percent of Bush’s loan. A more honest presentation would combine the two figures to say U.S. taxpayers got back 90 percent of what they invested. In fact, that is how the Treasury and other administration officials frequently portray it; it is just when Obama speaks that the numbers get so squishy.

The White House justifies saying that Chrysler will be in 100 percent “in private hands” because there will no longer be government ownership once Fiat completes its purchase of the U.S. stake. For the record, the United Auto Workers will own 46 percent of the company.

“All three American automakers are now adding shifts and creating jobs at the strongest rate since the 1990s.”
The White House says the data to back this claim concerning the Big Three automakers is not public information. The official Bureau of Labor Statistics data refers to the entire auto industry — including foreign auto manufacturers, auto parts manufacturers, auto parts dealers and auto dealers. If you look at the data, the 113,200 jobs added between June 2009 and May 2011 amounts to about a 5 percent increase — from a rather low base.

UPDATE, 10:45 AM: Yen Chen, automotive business statistical analyst at the Center for Automotive Research, says CAR's analysis of Big Three auto data shows this statistic is correct. The Detroit Three are expected to add 10,000 hourly and 5,000 salaried workers this year, from a base of 115,805 hourly workers and 56, 432 salaried workers. That's an increase of about eight percent in each case. More than 16,000 hourly workers were added in 1991, but from a much higher base--440,000-- and 10,000 were also added in 1995, when there were 433,000 hourly workers. Meanwhile, salaried workers have been on a steady decline since 1990 (when the big Three employed 157,000).

“GM plans to hire back all of the workers they had to lay off during the recession.”
This is another impressive-sounding but misleading figure. In the five years since 2006, General Motors announced that it would reduce its workforce by nearly 68,000 hourly and salary workers, creating a much smaller company. Those are the figures that generated the headlines.

Obama is only talking about a sliver of workers — the 9,600 workers who were laid off in the fourth quarter of 2008. About 4,100 were sent home for a few weeks. Another 5,500 were put on indefinite leave, meaning there were no jobs at the time for them. All but 1,000 have returned to work, and the rest should be back at work by year’s end, according to GM spokesman Greg A. Martin.

“In the year before I was President, this industry lost more than 400,000 jobs, and two great American companies, Chrysler and GM, stood on the brink of collapse. Now, we had a few options.  We could have done what a lot of folks in Washington thought we should do — nothing.”
This is quite a straw man — that many people wanted to do nothing. It was never so black and white. The debate was over the right course to take in the bankruptcy process.

The Wall Street Journal published Monday an interesting conservative critique of the government’s intervention by David Skeel, a law professor at University of Pennsylvania. Skeel says that the revival of the auto industry “is a very encouraging development,” but “to claim that the car companies would have collapsed if the government hadn’t intervened in the way it did, and to suggest that the intervention came at very little cost, is a dangerous misreading of our recent history.”

To support the claim that “a lot of folks” wanted to do nothing, the White House referred us to statements by the House minority leader, John Boehner (R-Ohio), and Sens. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.).

We do not read Boehner’s quote that way; in this 2009 comment, he is questioning the administration’s approach while saying, “The success of our automotive industry is critical.”Shelby and Kyl in 2008 were protesting the use of taxpayer funds by Bush to delay a bankruptcy filing; they preferred immediately putting the companies through the bankruptcy process.

It will be up to historians to decide what the best solution would have been for taxpayers and the auto industry. We can understand why the president wants to portray himself as making a lonely and tough decision. But the debate was not either/or, bur rather what was the best policy to bring the automakers back to financial health.

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 The president is straining too hard. If the auto industry bailout is really a success, there should be no need to resort to trumped-up rhetoric and phony accounting to make your case. Let the facts speak for themselves.

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #79 on: June 07, 2011, 10:17:09 AM »
The Washington Post SHREDS Obama For Being Dishonest In His Latest Speech On The Auto Bailouts
Business Insider ^ | 06/07/2011 | Gregory White


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President Obama spent last week talking about the success of the auto bailout, but his conclusions about its success may be a bit misleading, according to the Washington Post's Glenn Kessler.

The title of the piece is: President Obama’s phony accounting on the auto industry bailout.

Kessler spells out four examples of things President Obama has said since June 4 on the topic of the auto bailout that aren't completely correct.

* Chrysler has repaid every dime to the government: The U.S. government only got 90% back of their combined loans to Chrysler, made during both the Bush and Obama presidencies.

* Auto industries adding jobs at fastest rate since 1990s: Bureau of Labor statistics don't back up the government's claims (they say data isn't public for three big auto manufacturers).

* GM will bring all workers back lost during recession: GM announced workforce cuts of 68,000 in 2006. It cut 9,600 workers in Q4 2008. 8,600 of those are now back at work, and the others will soon, according to GM.

* Washington thought we should "do nothing" to protect Chrysler and GM: Not so clear cut; some questioned Obama's methods, but did not oppose support altogether.


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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #80 on: June 08, 2011, 04:38:51 PM »
Obama falsely claims that GM repaid bailout… Again
http://patriotstatesman.com/2011/06/obama-falsely-claims-that-gm-repaid-bailout%E2%80%A6-again/ ^







For the second time President Obama has falsely claimed that General Motors repaid the bailout they received from the American taxpayers.

The first time Obama lied to the American people about GM repaying its loan was in April 2010. This past Saturday the president was at it again telling a crowd in Ohio “Chrysler has repaid every dime and more of what it owes American taxpayers for their support during my presidency.”

Glenn Kessler does an outstanding job ripping the president apart at his blog the Fact Checker but the key to Obama’s argument are the words “during my presidency.” You see President Obama is just playing politics by not counting the first bailout that GM received while President Bush was still in office. It has gotten to the point that if Obama is speaking you can assume he’s lying. This guy makes Bill Clinton look like Abe Lincoln.

The president also touts the fact that the administration is in the process of completing its divestiture of GM stock. On the surface this sounds great but according to the Wall Street Journal, the government still owns some 500 million shares and is selling them at nearly a fifty-percent loss of the taxpayer’s hard earned money. When all is said and done, Italian automaker Fiat will own a majority stake in General Motors with the United Auto Workers owning the other forty-six percent.

When you think about it the UAW made out like bandits. They made just over $23 million in donations to the Democrat Party from 2000 to 2008, with over $4 million going to Obama, and walked away with significant ownership in the world’s second largest auto maker. Not a bad return on their investment wouldn’t you say? A $4 million investment gets you a forty-six percent stake in a company with a market cap (value) of $45 billion.

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #81 on: June 08, 2011, 04:40:43 PM »
It really says a lot about how badly Obama is lying when even the WaPo is calling him out on it.

Why is anyone surprised, though? This guy has told lies from day fucking one. Hi, Obamacare lowering costs!  ::)






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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #82 on: June 08, 2011, 04:41:51 PM »
It really says a lot about how badly Obama is lying when even the WaPo is calling him out on it.

Why is anyone surprised, though? This guy has told lies from day fucking one. Hi, Obamacare lowering costs!  ::)






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WAPO sliced and diced obama like a fillet 

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #83 on: June 09, 2011, 06:07:27 AM »
Ohio restaurant referenced by Obama is closing
AP ^ | 06/09/11 | Staff


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TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) — An Ohio restaurant mentioned last week by President Barack Obama as an indirect beneficiary of the government's Chrysler bailout will go out of business Sunday after a more than 70-year history.

Co-owner Richard Lawrence of New Chet's Restaurant in Toledo says business has fallen victim to the economy and the workplace smoking ban approved by Ohio voters in 2006.


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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #84 on: June 15, 2011, 06:17:29 AM »
New Study Throws Water on Obama Fuel-Economy Goals
By Drew Winter
WardsAuto.com, Jun 8, 2011 9:05 AM       
http://wardsauto.com/ar/fuel_economy_study_110607


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A new report says the Obama Admin.’s proposed 62 mpg (3.8 L/100 km) fuel-economy target for 2025 could kill hundreds of thousands of jobs, put a $55,000 sticker on an ordinary family car and deliver only minor savings to consumers.

The study was produced by the Ann Arbor, MI-based Center for Automotive Research, which has been a darling of the White House in recent months.

 The automotive think tank has supplied much of the data that support government claims the bailouts of General Motors and Chrysler saved 1.2 million jobs, billions in tax revenues and billions more in welfare and unemployment checks that never had to be paid out.

But it’s unlikely the White House will be touting CAR’s new study on proposed corporate average fuel economy standards. The paper, which forecasts what the U.S. vehicle market will look like in 2025, is expected to officially be released in the next few days.

“These mandates are so tough, why would (the White House) be interested in destroying an industry they just saved?” one of the study’s authors, Sean McAlinden, CAR chief economist and vice president of research, tells Ward’s.

Currently, auto makers must meet a U.S. fleet average fuel economy of 35.5 mpg (6.6 L/100 km) by 2016.

Beginning this year with ’12 vehicles, fleet-fuel economy will increase an average 4%.

Sean McAlinden, CAR chief economist 

Last year, the Obama Admin. proposed new CAFE rules beginning in 2017 that would require average increases of 3% to 6% per year, achieving 47 mpg (5 L/100 km) by 2025 at the low end and 62 mpg at the high end.

Obama has been favoring standards at the high end of the scale, and some environmental groups are pressing for faster increases of 7% or more annually beginning in 2017.

If gasoline prices are $6.00 per gallon in 2025, a case can be made for continued 3% annual improvements in fuel economy beginning in 2017.

But more dramatic increases would prove catastrophic to the U.S. auto industry, says Jay Baron, president and director-manufacturing systems at CAR and a co-author of the study.

“The changes are so radical for the vehicle to make these (2025) standards, we will have to completely and utterly redesign the body and chassis, supply chain and fabrication,” he says.

The new rules would require “huge changes” in powertrains, Baron says.

“When you go to 4%, 5%, 6% and even 7% reductions, there will be hundreds of thousands of job losses per year. What we’re arguing against is extremism,” says McAlinden, pointing out a 62-mpg fleet average translates into a 71-mpg (3.3 L/100-km) average for cars and 41-mpg (5.7 L/100-km) average for trucks.

CAR says the study was completely self-funded.

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #85 on: June 15, 2011, 07:17:58 AM »
It really says a lot about how badly Obama is lying when even the WaPo is calling him out on it.

Why is anyone surprised, though? This guy has told lies from day fucking one. Hi, Obamacare lowering costs!  ::)






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haven't disappeared..unlike you, I don't just keep talking when I have nothing to say...I will come back when I am ready

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #86 on: June 15, 2011, 07:22:09 AM »
Ha ha ha ha - hey do you agree with obama that ATM's are to blame for the piss poor economy?   

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #87 on: June 16, 2011, 06:46:08 AM »
Ha ha ha ha - hey do you agree with obama that ATM's are to blame for the piss poor economy?   

I didn't hear about this...what did he say

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #88 on: July 05, 2011, 09:24:55 AM »
I didn't hear about this...what did he say


GM Spends Taxpayer Money to Lobby for More Taxpayer Money
National Legal & Policy Center ^ | July 5, 2011 | Mark Modica




According to CNBC, General Motors has ramped up its lobbying efforts to the tune of $3.58 million in the first quarter of 2011. This is nearly triple the $1.36 million it spent in the first quarter of the prior year. It is also over double the $1.67 million spent by non-bailed out Ford in the same quarter. The $50 billion that taxpayers gave to bail out GM is now partially being distributed back to President Obama, Congress and a variety of agencies in an effort by GM to, well, receive more taxpayer money.

One of the requests made by GM lobbyists is to increase the number of Chevy Volts that qualify for the $7,500 tax credit from 200,000 to 500,000. At the current rate of sales, that's about a 100 years of subsidies! It is also an additional $2.25 billion of taxpayer money added to the current $1.5 billion of subsidies already approved. That is an awful lot of money for a vehicle that offers questionable benefits to the environment.

Other areas of handouts requested by GM include pension payment help from the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp., the government agency that took over responsibility for $6.1 billion of pension obligations to Delphi Corp., GM's former parts arm. Delphi salaried retirees were treated much more poorly than UAW retirees regarding pensions and benefits retained after the GM bankruptcy process. Congress has recently held hearings on the unfair treatment that blatantly favored UAW members over other classes.

It is absurd that a company that has the US government as its largest shareholder spends millions of dollars to lobby that same government. Treasury should sell its taxpayer owned shares in GM now to avoid such conflicts of interests. Actions like the purchase of thousands of Chevy Volts by the Obama Administration and General Electric (headed by Obama crony, Jeff Immelt) will continue to be questioned as long as Obama has a vested interest in the success of GM as he campaigns for reelection. Any future perceived success by GM may come at the cost of billions more of taxpayer dollars.


Mark Modica is an NLPC Associate Fellow

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #89 on: July 05, 2011, 10:11:30 AM »

GM Spends Taxpayer Money to Lobby for More Taxpayer Money
National Legal & Policy Center ^ | July 5, 2011 | Mark Modica




According to CNBC, General Motors has ramped up its lobbying efforts to the tune of $3.58 million in the first quarter of 2011. This is nearly triple the $1.36 million it spent in the first quarter of the prior year. It is also over double the $1.67 million spent by non-bailed out Ford in the same quarter. The $50 billion that taxpayers gave to bail out GM is now partially being distributed back to President Obama, Congress and a variety of agencies in an effort by GM to, well, receive more taxpayer money.

One of the requests made by GM lobbyists is to increase the number of Chevy Volts that qualify for the $7,500 tax credit from 200,000 to 500,000. At the current rate of sales, that's about a 100 years of subsidies! It is also an additional $2.25 billion of taxpayer money added to the current $1.5 billion of subsidies already approved. That is an awful lot of money for a vehicle that offers questionable benefits to the environment.

Other areas of handouts requested by GM include pension payment help from the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp., the government agency that took over responsibility for $6.1 billion of pension obligations to Delphi Corp., GM's former parts arm. Delphi salaried retirees were treated much more poorly than UAW retirees regarding pensions and benefits retained after the GM bankruptcy process. Congress has recently held hearings on the unfair treatment that blatantly favored UAW members over other classes.

It is absurd that a company that has the US government as its largest shareholder spends millions of dollars to lobby that same government. Treasury should sell its taxpayer owned shares in GM now to avoid such conflicts of interests. Actions like the purchase of thousands of Chevy Volts by the Obama Administration and General Electric (headed by Obama crony, Jeff Immelt) will continue to be questioned as long as Obama has a vested interest in the success of GM as he campaigns for reelection. Any future perceived success by GM may come at the cost of billions more of taxpayer dollars.


Mark Modica is an NLPC Associate Fellow




Kinda ranks up there with paying off one loan with another loan.

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #90 on: July 06, 2011, 12:48:06 PM »
GM Stuffs Truck Inventory Channels to Goose Earnings
National Legal & Policy Center ^ | June 6, 2011 | Mark Modica






It looks like General Motors is up to its old tricks as it stuffs inventory channels with higher profit trucks. GM is able to record revenue when vehicles are shipped to dealerships as opposed to actually being sold to consumers, so the move will help to paint a false picture of positive second quarter earnings.

The Detroit Free Press reports that GM's truck inventory has swelled to a bloated 122 days worth of sales as opposed to an average of 60 to 70 for other vehicles. This compares to a 79 day inventory supply of similar trucks at Ford. Peter Nesvold, a Jefferies & Co. analyst, said it best when he stated what many of us have known for a while, "There's no credibility. It's unbelievable that after this huge taxpayer bailout and the bankruptcy, that we're right back to where we were." He went on to ask, "Is GM falling into old, bad habits?"

The US Treasury has stated that they will wait until after second quarter earnings are reported to sell the taxpayers' ownership stake in GM. Why is Treasury so sure that GM share price will only go up after earnings and is not at risk of falling further? The Obama Administration and Democrats have scoffed at past ideas of investing Social Security assets into equity markets because of the risks to capital. Now they seem to have no problem gambling with the taxpayers' stake in GM by market timing its exit. Perhaps the administration and GM are overconfident in the ability to drive share price by fudging earnings with such tricks as channel stuffing. As Obama continues to campaign on the perceived "success" at GM, the pressure is on to put a good face on second quarter earnings, credibility be damned.

First quarter earnings at GM also looked pretty good on the surface. The problem was that most of the profits were derived from non-operating income. Money managers and analysts saw past the surface and GM share price did not react well. It will be interesting to see what tricks GM might have up its sleeve when second quarter numbers are reported and more interesting to see how share price reacts. I'm guessing that the figures will once again look good on the surface, but be of questionable quality. It seems that trickery is the modus operandi at GM when it comes to financial reporting.

The higher profits that come from higher truck sales, or put more accurately, rising truck inventories, will goose GM's numbers on the surface. The underlying truth is that truck sales are down compared to lower profit cars. As an asides, it baffles me that GM CEO, Dan Akerson, has stated that he wants higher gas prices so that car sales will improve at the expense of higher profit trucks. Worse yet is the focus on the Chevy Volt, which loses money with every sale. It is absurd for the leader of a publicly traded company to campaign for actions that will negatively impact profitability. And campaigning is exactly what is happening at Government Motors.

Aggressive spending on incentives and plant investments should also have a negative impact on second quarter earnings. Remember that GM wants to be able to boast of strong sales and UAW job creation as part of the public opinion campaign effort, and this comes at a cost. There is also a cost to stuffing the truck inventory channel that has been overlooked. Typically, GM must pay dealerships to take the excess inventory since dealerships incur finance costs for the vehicles. Higher commodity costs may weigh on earnings as well. I don't know if GM will be able to mask these issues, but I believe they will try. At a time when GM should be focusing on the basics, it is again relying on smoke and mirrors to give the impression of financial strength. This short sighted strategy may play well on the campaign trail, but the inevitable result will be an eventual second trip to bankruptcy court if GM does not get its house in order. And, hopefully, taxpayers will not be footing the bill the next time around.

Mark Modica is an NLPC Associate Fellow.





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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #91 on: July 08, 2011, 10:50:41 AM »
House asks: Did Obama's auto bailout chief say, 'I did this all for the unions'
By: Byron York | Chief Political Correspondent Follow Him @ByronYork | 07/08/11 11:05 AM



Investigators for the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform are asking the White House official who oversaw the government bailouts of General Motors and Chrysler whether he told the truth in recent testimony before the committee.  Ron Bloom, Assistant to the President for Manufacturing Policy, is quoted in a 2009 newspaper account and a 2010 book saying of the auto bailouts that he "did this all for the unions."  But when Bloom appeared before the committee on June 22, he flatly denied ever saying those words.  Other White House officials have reportedly defended Bloom by suggesting that he did indeed say those words but was joking.  And that has led committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa to ask what is going on.

On November 24, 2009, Detroit News reporter David Shepardson wrote about a dinner held at Washington's Rosa Mexicano restaurant in July of that year, after GM had come out of bankruptcy.  Both Bloom and Steven Rattner, the Wall Street figure who played a key role in the bailouts, spoke to the group.  "Rattner praised the team's intensity and focus and said the group was among the best he had ever worked with," Shepardson reported.  "Bloom, the former adviser to the United Steelworkers, joked that he 'did this all for the unions.'"  (The article is not available on the paper's website, but here is a copy of it on a United Auto Workers site.)

In September 2010, Rattner published a book entitled Overhaul: An Insider's Account of the Obama Administration's Emergency Rescue of the Auto Industry.  He also described the dinner at Rosa Mexicano:

Such celebrations, I reminded my colleagues, are standard on Wall Street at the successful close of a deal.  But in those victories, the objective is private gain.  This victory was different.  I choked up as I spoke about our commitment to quality.  "I've worked with a lot of talented people in my life but never with a group smarter or more dedicated than Team Auto," I said.  And I thanked my colleagues for the enormous sacrifices that each had made.  "In this deal, in this incarnation," I said, "you have epitomized what it means to serve your country."

Fortunately, after I spoke, Ron Bloom was there to lighten the mood.  "I did this all for the unions," he jokingly declared.  Everyone laughed and the war stories began to fly…

The only difference between the two accounts is that Rattner says Bloom made the statement "jokingly."  Readers can judge for themselves whether it was the kind of joke that is also true.  But in any event, Rattner says Bloom was joking.

Fast forward to June 22.  During Bloom's appearance before the Committee on Government Oversight and Reform, Republican Rep. Dan Burton asked Bloom about the dinner:

Rep. Burton: Well, did you say this at a dinner? There was a dinner and it was reported by David Shepardson, Washington correspondent for the Detroit News. At a farewell dinner of the Auto Task Force held in the restaurant Rosa Mexicano in late July 2009 that you allegedly said "I did this all for the unions."

Mr. Bloom: No I did not say that.

Rep. Burton: You didn't say that?

Mr. Bloom: No sir.

Rep. Burton: So, you were misquoted?

Mr. Bloom: That's correct.

Rep. Burton: Well, I'm going to call that guy up and ask him if you said that. You know that you are under oath here?

Mr. Bloom: I'm fully aware.

Rep. Burton: You made no comment like that at all?

Mr. Bloom: No sir.

So now the question is: Did Bloom say it, not say it, or did he say it and it was a joke?  Bloom says he didn't say it.  But ABC News reports that a White House source is referring reporters to Rattner's book, adding that Rattner "clearly writes that Bloom made the comment as a joke."

That has Republicans on Capitol Hill confused. "Bloom is denying having said it in the first place, but the White House is saying it's just a joke," says a Hill source.  "Well, you can't have it both ways."

Now Issa has written a letter to Bloom, giving him "an opportunity to clarify" his testimony to the committee. "Despite your five denials, two independent sources documented you saying these words," Issa wrote.  "It appears that either a respected reporter and your former boss in the Obama administration have both given inaccurate accounts of your comments to the public, or your testimony was not completely truthful.  Therefore, if you would like to amend or clarify your testimony for the record, we encourage you to do so as soon as possible."

Hill sources are not making any threats; they say simply that they are going to wait for Bloom's response and then see what comes next.  But there's no doubt that want to know what was really said at that dinner celebrating the auto bailouts.



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/07/house-asks-did-obamas-auto-bailout-chief-say-i-did-all-unions#ixzz1RXNGulHF

















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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #92 on: December 21, 2011, 08:39:30 AM »
Chevy Volt Costing Taxpayers Up to $250K Per Vehicle
Analyst: 'This might be the most government-supported car since the Trabant
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Each Chevy Volt sold thus far may have as much as $250,000 in state and federal dollars in incentives behind it – a total of $3 billion altogether, according to an analysis by James Hohman, assistant director of fiscal policy at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.

Hohman looked at total state and federal assistance offered for the development and production of the Chevy Volt, General Motors’ plug-in hybrid electric vehicle. His analysis included 18 government deals that included loans, rebates, grants and tax credits. The amount of government assistance does not include the fact that General Motors is currently 26 percent owned by the federal government.

The Volt subsidies flow through multiple companies involed in production. The analysis includes adding up the amount of government subsidies via tax credits and direct funding for not only General Motors, but other companies supplying parts for the vehicle. For example, the Department of Energy awarded a $105.9 million grant to the GM Brownstown plant that assembles the batteries. The company was also awarded approximately $106 million for its Hamtramck assembly plant in state credits to retain jobs. The company that supplies the Volt’s batteries, Compact Power, was awarded up to $100 million in refundable battery credits (combination tax breaks and cash subsidies). These are among many of the subsidies and tax credits for the vehicle.

It’s unlikely that all the companies involved in Volt production will ever receive all the $3 billion in incentives, Hohman said, because many of them are linked to meeting various employment and other milestones. But the analysis looks at the total value that has been offered to the Volt in different aspects of production – from the assembly line to the dealerships to the battery manufacturers. Some tax credits and subsidies are offered for periods up to 20 years, though most have a much shorter time frame.

GM has estimated they’ve sold 6,000 Volts so far. That would mean each of the 6,000 Volts sold would be subsidized between $50,000 and $250,000, depending on how many government subsidy milestones are realized.

If battery manufacturers awarded incentives to produce batteries the Volt may use are included in the analysis, the potential government subsidy per Volt increases to $256,824. For example, A123 Systems has received extensive state and federal support, and bid to be a supplier to the Volt, but the deal instead went to Compact Power. The $256,824 figure includes adding up the subsidies to both companies.

The $3 billion total subsidy figure includes $690.4 million offered by the state of Michigan and $2.3 billion in federal money. That’s enough to purchase 75,222 Volts with a sticker price of $39,828.

Additional state and local support provided to Volt suppliers was not included in the analysis, Hohman said, and could increase the level of government aid. For instance, the Volt is being assembled at the Poletown plant in Detroit/Hamtramck, which was built on land acquired by General Motors through eminent domain.

“It just goes to show  there are certain folks that will spend anything to get their vision of what people should do,” said State Representative Tom McMillin, R-Rochester Hills. “It’s a glaring example of the failure of central planning trying to force citizens to purchase something they may not want. … They should let the free market make those decisions.”

“This might be the most government-supported car since the Trabant,” said Hohman, referring to the car produced by the former Communist state of East Germany.

According to GM CEO Dan Akerson, the average Volt owner makes $170,000 per year.


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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #93 on: January 04, 2012, 06:50:41 PM »
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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF BERZERK CONTINUES...saves auto industry
« Reply #96 on: January 04, 2012, 07:49:34 PM »
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Gm is building cars with China...whats wrong with that?.....so is everyone else in the world...china is the world's biggest market....what are ya gonna do?..its the new world we live in....but we need to address china's unfair practices...Obama has been more outspoken than any president on this matter and directly confronted the chinese leader about this in their last summit

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Gm is building cars with China...whats wrong with that?.....so is everyone else in the world...china is the world's biggest market....what are ya gonna do?..its the new world we live in....but we need to address china's unfair practices...Obama has been more outspoken than any president on this matter and directly confronted the chinese leader about this in their last summit

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..AP Source: GM to call back 8,000 Chevy Volts
By TOM KRISHER | AP – 15 mins ago....Email




DETROIT (AP) — A person briefed on the matter says General Motors will ask Volt owners to bring their electric cars into dealers to strengthen the structure around the batteries.

The move is similar to a recall and involves the 8,000 Volts sold in the U.S. in the past two years.

The move comes after three batteries caught fire after side-impact crash tests done by federal safety regulators. The fires occurred seven days to three weeks after the tests and have been blamed on a coolant leak that caused an electrical short. No fires have broken out in real-world crashes.

The person says GM will contact Volt owners and have them return the cars to dealers for several structural repairs.

The repairs are a step below a formal recall.

The person did not want to be identified because GM executives will announce the plan later Thursday.

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