Going to failure in training

[Adam86]

the hardest thing people have a hard time letting go is that super heavy weight isn't the best way to train for muscular growth

you learn this with time.

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[The Abdominal Snoman]

Bodybuilders like Sergio oliva believed in the pump so he would do like 20 sets for biceps not to complete failure but focusing on the pump. then you will have other bodybuilders who do each set to complete failure meaning on the last set they struggle to do the last rep and the muscle is completely exhausted.

throw down 5 or 10 anadrol or 20 dbol tabs at a time like Sergio, and "the Pump" brings on a whole new meaning. Than add pain killers into the mix and WTF becomes the norm

[Adam86]

[g101]

throw down 5 or 10 anadrol or 20 dbol tabs at a time like Sergio, and "the Pump" brings on a whole new meaning. Than add pain killers into the mix and WTF becomes the norm

 

[QuakerOats]

another gym hero training to failoure

looks like Juan Morel's squat form.

[tbombz]

Bollocks, the burn has nothing to do with muscle growth stimulation. Run on a treadmill for 60 mins and your calfs will burn, do they grow...no they do not, actually they will prob shrink!

Go back to basics and understand what a muscle does..it moves a joint or series of joints and causes movement. That muscles is only as big or as strong as it needs to be to do the job. You increase the propeties of its day to day task such as increasing resistance that it requires to do this and is must adapt. It may grow denser by increasing more fibres but eventually in must grow in size to account for the large loads it must lift on a regular basis.

You can stimulate muscle in many ways but lets face it, you who advise higher reps and less weight are juiced up to the gills and train often, more often than you could recover under normal recovery situations. The drugs are doing the work...
What I am saying is I do not say this way does not work, I am saying that if you actually pushed yourself and trained harder you would achieve these results in less time and increasing weight or reps every time from the previous session is the most accurate way under normal training conditions to achieve this..

Did I lift more or the same for more..YES..did my body adapt to do this...YES...eventually will this lead to increased muscle/bone/tendon size..YES

when your on juice the body just responds differently. what works best as a natural isnt necessarily going to be the best on sauce. also, as you get bigger, your body isnt able to handle as much damage.  focusing on form, squeezing the muscle, varying the rep ranges, doing slow negatives ... these are important on juice. not how much you lift.  at least, thats my experience.

on the issue about calf growth from running on a tredmill. the biggest calfs ive ever seen have been on football players and sprinters. check out the quads and hammies on some pro athletes dude, even just endurance athletes. theres something to be said for high rep training when it comes to the lower body.

[The Grim Lifter]

the hardest thing people have a hard time letting go is that super heavy weight isn't the best way to train for muscular growth

you learn this with time.

Yes, but the problem is when you start going heavy is what works. When you get stronger you need to learn to back off a bit. It's hard to do mentally until you know it's the best way.

[PhysiqueNatural]

There are two types of bodybuilder, one you believes that you should take your sets to complete failure where your muscles are burnt and you cannot do another rep that is how you build muscle.
 Then you have the bodybuilder who believes that you should not take all sets to complete failure, because once you feel a burn in the muscle that is enough and beyond that could lead to injury and over training what do you believe what is your training style.

For myself at least to go to failure on the main set of every exercise.

[Thespritz0]

Upper Body:  For me, I always do a warm-up set 15 reps average with approx. 70% of my current maximum "working set" weight, then working up to the max. weights which I'll do about 3 sets of 10 reps with.  After this, depending on energy level- I'll do "descending sets" using 5lb less each time (or 10lb IF I'm in a hurry) and just burn the muscle group until you could literally melt butter on it... always striving for at least 8 to 10 reps on each set!!

Lower Body:  For Quads, Hams, Calves, a warm up set again with 70% of max, this time doing 20 reps, increasing weight each set keeping 15 reps as an average.  2 to 3 sets of 15 reps with MAX WEIGHT as the "Working Sets".  NO DESCENDING SETS for lower body, the weights being much heavier than upper body sufficient for stimulation.

***  Exception to all this is ABS, I prefer sets of 50 reps, 5 to 7 sets- 2 different exercises SUPER-SETTED.