For those that received the good Kigs prior to Nov.

[pellius]

When you peel off the Kig label and look at the powder from the side does it look consistent or does there appear to be two layers of powder with the top layer much thinner (about a 1/4 of the entire puck) and whiter and even a bit denser than the rest of the powder?

Also, input from those that know they definitely received bunk. Notice the puck has two layers or is it all the same?

[RRKore]

P,

I got mine in late Dec but when I look at the puck from the side, I'm not noticing any difference between top and bottom.  Seems pretty uniform in color and consistency to me.  One thing, though, is that when I turn the vial upside down and make the puck slide down, I can see indentations about about 1/2 halfway down (around about 1/3 of the circumference of the puck) that MIGHT indicate that the puck was created by filling the vial 2 separate times.

TL;DR:  inconclusive

[pellius]

P,

I got mine in late Dec but when I look at the puck from the side, I'm not noticing any difference between top and bottom.  Seems pretty uniform in color and consistency to me.  One thing, though, is that when I turn the vial upside down and make the puck slide down, I can see indentations about about 1/2 halfway down (around about 1/3 of the circumference of the puck) that MIGHT indicate that the puck was created by filling the vial 2 separate times.

TL;DR:  inconclusive

Interesting. Now, because of the date of shipment I'm assuming yours is bunk. Is it? What has been your response to the product and what was your dosage?

[pellius]

bump

[SamsonD]

I got mine in middle of November,  and I believe them to be good.  I ran 4-6iu per day and maintained scale weight while getting leaner.   I ran 4 kits though, and after 1 kit of novos I have more results.   I am dieting. A lot harder and running 10iu per day so that could be the different.  Just didn't think I'd see results like this after 1 kit.  Anyway, my kigs DO have the two layers.  First one is thin and real white the bottom is more off white and is the bulk of the powder.

These are the stamped batch, with overlapping labels and great vacuum.  They bubble like crazy when reconned, and take a few minutes to dissolve.   They are not as cloudy though as novos, which may be due to more filler or impurities in the novos?

[alpmaster00]

I received mine middle of November and they were bunk as hell, now I'm being told they will not reship. Working on it with kami, but doesn't seem like he'll do the right thing. Apparently he's convinced the only bad batch was from december orders. Not the case as I was running 30iu a day to try and test if there was even trace amounts of gh in my kigs.... Nothing.

[undertaker90]

I hade the same problem, just one of the 2 kits i order was good i almoust felt asleep on 5 iu, rest was bunk did only make me bloofy and fat.. stil while i was on mast,tren and EQ...

[pellius]

I received mine middle of November and they were bunk as hell, now I'm being told they will not reship. Working on it with kami, but doesn't seem like he'll do the right thing. Apparently he's convinced the only bad batch was from december orders. Not the case as I was running 30iu a day to try and test if there was even trace amounts of gh in my kigs.... Nothing.

What do the pucks look like? Are there two different layers when the label is peeled off and you look at it from the side. Are all the labels wrapped so that the left end of the label (where they meet) over laps the right end. The "K" end.?

[pellius]

I hade the same problem, just one of the 2 kits i order was good i almoust felt asleep on 5 iu, rest was bunk did only make me bloofy and fat.. stil while i was on mast,tren and EQ...

When did you receive yours. I do believe the bunk stuff started mixing in with the good prior to December. It seems to have started in November. I got mine late November and it definitely a mixed batch. Tested 10iu per inject on myself, had another friend try it that knows his gh and one of gh15 approved testers. All came with same conclusion. Some were good others bad. Each tried 4 different vials.

[aesthetics]

pellius did you check your pms?

[pellius]

pellius did you check your pms?

Yes, and though I am quite flattered I don't think of you that way.

Lets just be friends, OK?   

[aesthetics]

oh, well that's too bad, but i was also giving you an update on the kami situation.

[diamondcut]

for the guys with good kigs, does the puck move up and down the vial?

and what is the height of the puck? like mm/cm?

[pellius]

oh, well that's too bad, but i was also giving you an update on the kami situation.

Thanks. I stay in regular contact with Kublai.

[pellius]

for the guys with good kigs, does the puck move up and down the vial?

and what is the height of the puck? like mm/cm?

I think they are all about the same size and will slide up and down the vial if you turn it upside down. But if the puck doesn't hold together and breaks apart I think that would be another bad sign.

[FAST LANE]

Yes, and though I am quite flattered I don't think of you that way.

Lets just be friends, OK?   

LOL

Why don't you share with us what you two fellas were discussing?