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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #150 on: February 02, 2012, 04:13:06 PM »
You know what your talking about in YOUR opinion I don't agree....  
Someone says someone has a small torso an you post a rear double back bi shot
From the front and side phils arms make his torso looks small
The torso consists of the chest shoulders back abs
From the front you can see MORE of the torso chest abs delts and part of the lats depending on the pose... So people tend to judge the torso from the FRONT .. From the back well you see mostly the back
If you said torso to 99.9% of people they would immediately be thinking front abs and chest... But you chose to post a back shot to prop up your perspective
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Let me say one thing to you clearly I respect all members and opinions but you are not an authority on a subjective matter... So if you chose to engage me in a debate state you opinion do not try to talk down to me Or belittle my opinion because it doesn't work.
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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #151 on: February 02, 2012, 04:15:21 PM »
lol arent we touchy today

how can someone not belittle you when you think we're such idiots that we believe ur natural lol

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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #152 on: February 02, 2012, 04:24:21 PM »
To further add to my point .. NDI have watched quite a few phil vids
and there are a lot of times he states He doesnt work arms frequently.. and states he's trying to bring up his chest....
So I guess phil has a lot to learn about his physique too......
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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #153 on: February 02, 2012, 05:01:05 PM »
You know what your talking about in YOUR opinion I don't agree.... 
Some says someone has a small torso an you post a rear double back bi shot
From the front and side phils arms make his torso looks small
The torso consists of the chest shoulders back abs
From the front you can see MORE of the torso chest abs delts and part of the lats depending on the pose... So people tend to judge the torso from the FRONT .. From the back well you see mostly the back
If you said torso to 99.9% of people they would immediately be thinking front and chest... But you chose to post a back shot to prop up your perspective
....
Let me say one thing to you clearly I respect all members and opinions but you are not an authority on a subjective matter... So if you chose to engage me in a debate state you opinion do not try to talk down to me Or belittle my opinion because it doesn't work.


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You know what your talking about in YOUR opinion I don't agree.... 
Some says someone has a small torso an you post a rear double back bi shot

Yes and you can see the torso in the back double biceps shot and his back double biceps shot clearly shows his arms are NOT to big for his torso , in fact it shows it fits almost perfectly

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The torso consists of the chest shoulders back abs
From the front you can see MORE of the torso chest abs delts and part of the lats depending on the pose... So people tend to judge the torso from the FRONT .. From the back well you see mostly the back
If you said torso to 99.9% of people they would immediately be thinking front and chest... But you chose to post a back shot to prop up your perspective

tor新o  (t皾s)
n. pl. tor新os or tor新i (-s)
1. The human body excluding the head and limbs; trunk.
2. A statue of the human body with the head and limbs omitted or removed.
3. A truncated or unfinished thing.


if you say torso 99.9% of people who know what they are talking about would say a limbless body , front & chest  ::) everything sans head and limbs is a torso

especially when the torso is lagging behind the arms that should not be rewarded..
 
your statement and it doesn't say anything about certain poses like the side chest or most muscular , he just changed that after I pointed it out.

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Let me say one thing to you clearly I respect all members and opinions but you are not an authority on a subjective matter... So if you chose to engage me in a debate state you opinion do not try to talk down to me Or belittle my opinion because it doesn't work.

One I never said I was an ' authority ' that's your word ,all I said I was knew more on the subject. Two there was no ' debate ' I was correcting your post in order for there to be a debate you'd have to know what you're talking about and clearly you don't , not when you make a blanket statement and then amend it afterwards when called on it.

Don't presume to tell me how to behave on a message board , I'll do what I do and if you don't like it then feel free to tell me or ignore me either way I'm not losing much sleep over it. If you feel I'm trying to ' belittle ' you or ' talk down to you ' that's on you. I think you're a good guy and never attacked you personally just some of your ignorant statements , nothing personal on my end.

You harp on Phil for a ' torso lagging behind arms ' and claiming he shouldn't be rewarded , yet brag about Ronnie being the best ever , when his calves lagged behind his quads . a bit hypocritical on your behalf and you're more than willing to overlook it because you prefer Ronnie of Heath.

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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #154 on: February 02, 2012, 05:06:36 PM »
I saw Phil in person around March 2009 and he didn't look small at all.
He just gets dogged on
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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #155 on: February 02, 2012, 05:08:42 PM »
Trending tonight on Getbig..."Mr.Olympia-no chest"

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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #156 on: February 02, 2012, 05:17:00 PM »
Yes and you can see the torso in the back double biceps shot and his back double biceps shot clearly shows his arms are NOT to big for his torso , in fact it shows it fits almost perfectly

tor新o  (t皾s)
n. pl. tor新os or tor新i (-s)
1. The human body excluding the head and limbs; trunk.
2. A statue of the human body with the head and limbs omitted or removed.
3. A truncated or unfinished thing.


if you say torso 99.9% of people who know what they are talking about would say a limbless body , front & chest  ::) everything sans head and limbs is a torso

especially when the torso is lagging behind the arms that should not be rewarded..
 
your statement and it doesn't say anything about certain poses like the side chest or most muscular , he just changed that after I pointed it out.

One I never said I was an ' authority ' that's your word ,all I said I was knew more on the subject. Two there was no ' debate ' I was correcting your post in order for there to be a debate you'd have to know what you're talking about and clearly you don't , not when you make a blanket statement and then amend it afterwards when called on it.

Don't presume to tell me how to behave on a message board , I'll do what I do and if you don't like it then feel free to tell me or ignore me either way I'm not losing much sleep over it. If you feel I'm trying to ' belittle ' you or ' talk down to you ' that's on you. I think you're a good guy and never attacked you personally just some of your ignorant statements , nothing personal on my end.

You harp on Phil for a ' torso lagging behind arms ' and claiming he shouldn't be rewarded , yet brag about Ronnie being the best ever , when his calves lagged behind his quads . a bit hypocritical on your behalf and you're more than willing to overlook it because you prefer Ronnie of Heath.
To further add to my point .. ND!!!!
 I have watched quite a few phil vids
and there are a lot of times he states He doesnt work arms frequently.. and states he's trying to bring up his chest....
So I guess phil has a lot to learn about his physique too......
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Im not talking about coleman.... why is coleman on your mind so much... like it or not calves just dont weigh a lot in the judging criteria.... plus why are we talking about coleman

Phil said it HIMSEf!!!
what do i have to go and search youtube and post the vid...
debate over man.... you are not always right....
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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #157 on: February 02, 2012, 05:35:21 PM »
To further add to my point .. ND!!!!
 I have watched quite a few phil vids
and there are a lot of times he states He doesnt work arms frequently.. and states he's trying to bring up his chest....
So I guess phil has a lot to learn about his physique too......
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ND!
Im not talking about coleman.... why is coleman on your mind so much... like it or not calves just dont weigh a lot in the judging criteria.... plus why are we talking about coleman

Phil said it HIMSEf!!!
what do i have to go and search youtube and post the vid...
debate over man.... you are not always right....

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To further add to my point .. ND!!!!
 I have watched quite a few phil vids
and there are a lot of times he states He doesnt work arms frequently.. and states he's trying to bring up his chest....
So I guess phil has a lot to learn about his physique too......

bringing up his chest has what to do with the rest if his TORSO? which you claim is out of proportion? sure his chest needed some work , mission accomplished , want proof? watch the 2011 Mr Olympia.

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ND!
Im not talking about coleman.... why is coleman on your mind so much... like it or not calves just dont weigh a lot in the judging criteria.... plus why are we talking about coleman

Who said you were talking about Coleman?  ??? I was talking about Coleman and how you are bitching that Phil shouldn't be rewarded for having an imbalance issue but are perfectly fine when it's Ronnie , it was merely an example of your hypocrisy when it's someone you prefer , and another example of how preference guides your ' opinions ' 

and LMFAO calves don't weigh a lot in the judging criteria  ::) more ignorance on your behalf , you don't even know the judging criteria if you did you would see where it calls for the calves in every single pose and calves also come into play with balance & proportion of the entire physique.

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Phil said it HIMSEf!!!
what do i have to go and search youtube and post the vid...
debate over man.... you are not always right...

Phil said his arms are to big for his torso?  ??? go find that I'll be waiting.

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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #158 on: February 03, 2012, 04:32:00 AM »
To further add to my point .. NDI have watched quite a few phil vids
and there are a lot of times he states He doesnt work arms frequently.. and states he's trying to bring up his chest....
So I guess phil has a lot to learn about his physique too......

lol at actually watching these videos.... and believing ONE word that comes out of these guys mouths!

so injecting them with seo on a daily basis , is not working on them?? lolz..... ::) ::) ::)
his chest can not be brought up! he will always have a birds chest, because of his enormous structural flaw ie: narrow ass clavicles...in fact the thicker he will make his chest, the funkier it will look!!!
real bodybuilder = naturally wide.... period!
phil is all blow up muscle.... get over it... but in today's line up he is one of the best..
says more about the quality of today's bodybuilding then about phil though....
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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #159 on: February 03, 2012, 04:43:02 AM »
bringing up his chest has what to do with the rest if his TORSO? which you claim is out of proportion? sure his chest needed some work , mission accomplished , want proof? watch the 2011 Mr Olympia.

Who said you were talking about Coleman?  ??? I was talking about Coleman and how you are bitching that Phil shouldn't be rewarded for having an imbalance issue but are perfectly fine when it's Ronnie , it was merely an example of your hypocrisy when it's someone you prefer , and another example of how preference guides your ' opinions ' 

and LMFAO calves don't weigh a lot in the judging criteria  ::) more ignorance on your behalf , you don't even know the judging criteria if you did you would see where it calls for the calves in every single pose and calves also come into play with balance & proportion of the entire physique.

Phil said his arms are to big for his torso?  ??? go find that I'll be waiting.

I didnt say Phil said his arms were too big for his torso literally
He said he hadn't worked arms for months and was working on bringing up his chest and width to cath his arms. Debating with you is a waste of time ... on this
If you can't glean from that statement what Heath
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Re: Regarding Phil Heath being small in person
« Reply #160 on: February 03, 2012, 04:45:22 AM »
lol at actually watching these videos.... and believing ONE word that comes out of these guys mouths!

so injecting them with seo on a daily basis , is not working on them?? lolz..... ::) ::) ::)
his chest can not be brought up! he will always have a birds chest, because of his enormous structural flaw ie: narrow ass clavicles...in fact the thicker he will make his chest, the funkier it will look!!!
real bodybuilder = naturally wide.... period!
phil is all blow up muscle.... get over it... but in today's line up he is one of the best..
says more about the quality of today's bodybuilding then about phil though....

Nd can't see this... Everyone including Phil has a lot to learn
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