Docs Urge Feds to Regulate Sugar

[Hugo Chavez]

I've been seeing calls to do this a lot lately. 

Docs Urge Feds to Regulate 'Toxic' Sugar
http://www.medpagetoday.com/PrimaryCare/DietNutrition/30972

[Purge_WTF]

  Toxic my ass. Don't they have anything better to do with their time?

[Soul Crusher]

 .  I'm sure obamacare will have a mandate of some sort.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Heard this on the radio today. Seriously, wtf?!

You would have to be over 17 to purchase products with added sugar and shit. This is becoming totally fucked up.

[Shockwave]

Too many people being allowed to dictate too many things on how the public should live their lives.
Were definatley on the downhill slide.

[240 is Back]

can i play devils advocate without being called a shitbag lib?


okay, nevermind then 

[240 is Back]

the people who load up on sugary shit their entire lives are more likely to be unhealthy and poor.
they are more likely to suck on the govt teet for healthcare services.
We're talking about the woman who gets social security for 40 years because her lazy ass ended up with diabetes at 30.


Now, if some sort of social control was put into place to ensure she wasn't buying candy by the pound at age 11 -
would you support it?

Keep in mind this obese warthog will be taking YOUR MONEY when she's diabetic sitting at home for 40 years because of the habits and juvenile diabetes she bought during her unattended sugary consuming years.

Hey, if you're okay with this fat pig x 50 million of them - then by all means, oppose this law.

I read somewhere that HALF of the people born today will have diabetes in their lifetime thanks to the shit food out there.

You can say "let the parents decide", but given the fact that ONE-THIRD of Americans are obese, I'm not so sure they have the mental capacity to decide.

[tonymctones]

^^^
How about we just make ppl responsible for their own actions?

if you get diabetes b/c youre overweight then you deal with the consequences...

I know personal responsibility is a foreign idea to a person like you but you should try it, its very liberating

P.S. Ill curb stomp the shit out of you if I ever meet you, but Ill buy you a beer first if it makes you feel better.

[240 is Back]

^^^
How about we just make ppl responsible for their own actions?

if you get diabetes b/c youre overweight then you deal with the consequences...

I know personal responsibility is a foreign idea to a person like you but you should try it, its very liberating

P.S. Ill curb stomp the shit out of you if I ever meet you, but Ill buy you a beer first if it makes you feel better.

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I don't see a system where we cut off the social security to the 30 year old diabetic.

I'd LOVE it.   But I'm being realistic here.  It isn't going to change.

I'm working within that limitation.

tony - we've TRIED letting people make their own choices - and the obesity rate is climbing. 

If stopping kids from buying candy keeps our taxes down, i'm all for it then.

IMO, your theory "just let them deal with the consequences" makes an assumption we can just end social security for all the 30 year old fat asses.

[Soul Crusher]

Mandatory work farms and PT would solve this. 

[240 is Back]

Mandatory work farms

again - correct but i'm being realistic.


We CANNOT kick all americans off social security.  If a person is 30 and ate candy for 28 years to get there - they're pathetic - but they're going to get our tax dollars, regardless.

So yes, I support cutting availability to ANYTHING that americans are statistically using to raise our taxes and HC costs.

[Soul Crusher]

I am in favor of national boot camp for the fatties.    Like FMJ and have DI Hartman screaming 24 7

[240 is Back]

I am in favor of national boot camp for the fatties.    Like FMJ and have DI Hartman screaming 24 7

So you're okay with mandatory detention of americans to lose weight...

but limiting their availability to sugary foods = fucking unacceptable?

[tonymctones]

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I don't see a system where we cut off the social security to the 30 year old diabetic.

I'd LOVE it.   But I'm being realistic here.  It isn't going to change.

I'm working within that limitation.

tony - we've TRIED letting people make their own choices - and the obesity rate is climbing. 

If stopping kids from buying candy keeps our taxes down, i'm all for it then.

IMO, your theory "just let them deal with the consequences" makes an assumption we can just end social security for all the 30 year old fat asses.

youre right, lets regulate everything from the time we get to sleep, watch tv, what we eat shit even how much we fuck....

you idiot coddling ppl isnt the answer, you have kids dont you? the more you do things for them the more they expect you to do.

The more you make ppl responsible for their actions the more they begin to think about those actions before taking them.

but hey live in your fantasy world

P.S. we havent let ppl make their own decision, we have constantly been there to bail ppl out...

tell me when we have let ppl live and die by their own decisions?

[howardroark]

Don't we already have a thirty-some percent tariff on sugar? How's this for an idea: if people fuck up their health, then they gotta pay for it.

[240 is Back]

youre right, lets regulate everything from the time we get to sleep, watch tv, what we eat shit even how much we fuck....

you idiot coddling ppl isnt the answer, you have kids dont you? the more you do things for them the more they expect you to do.

its the reality we're stuck with.   It's not 'what should be'   it's 'what is'.

[Skip8282]

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I don't see a system where we cut off the social security to the 30 year old diabetic.

I'd LOVE it.   But I'm being realistic here.  It isn't going to change.

I'm working within that limitation.

tony - we've TRIED letting people make their own choices - and the obesity rate is climbing. 

If stopping kids from buying candy keeps our taxes down, i'm all for it then.

IMO, your theory "just let them deal with the consequences" makes an assumption we can just end social security for all the 30 year old fat asses.

I was watching the doctor behind this movement (he has a lecture on YouTube) and he's a pediatrician.  He's seeing sugar related problems in infants as young as 6 months old - not people who "choose" to get fat. 

I didn't get the whole thing, but I think the crux was that too much sugar is being added to our foods.

I don't support the regulation, but I do support full disclosure on food labels.  So if they're adding a lot of fructose to infant formulas or whatever, then people should be aware.

But, it's still incumbent upon the parent to read labels, check shit out, and feed their children appropriately.

[240 is Back]

i agree it's incumbent upon parent to XYZ.  My point is that they're NOT doing it.  And a nice % of those people saying "I can educate my own kids on nutrition" are fatasses themselves.  So no, they obviously cannot and should not. 

Tell me this -
If every school in America would fire one of those 'supervisors' whose only job is to walk around with a clipboard, and hire a full time dietician to teach those students the right way to eat...

In 10 years, would there be Greater or Less obesity in america?
(We can safely assume less)
Then the Q would be - because of the resulting decline in obesity and related illnesses, would the cost to taxpayers be higher or lower?
Lower, of course.

Essentially-
We are defending the right of obese people to teach their kids to be fatasses, so we can pay for it with increased taxes and higher national healthcare costs.


So, sorry, fuck em.  If you are 18% bodyfat or lower, then you're excluded.  If you're 260 pounds of fatass and you're shouting "no way, I can teach my kids how to eat" - Sorry, no you really can't.  You're going to teach them to be fat slugs just like you- GFY there, chubby.

[Soul Crusher]

I am in favor of mandatory PT for the sloths.   I would love running this.  I would be like FMJ w a whitsle smokey bear hat, screaming at people etc.

[Skip8282]

i agree it's incumbent upon parent to XYZ.  My point is that they're NOT doing it.  And a nice % of those people saying "I can educate my own kids on nutrition" are fatasses themselves.  So no, they obviously cannot and should not. 

Tell me this -
If every school in America would fire one of those 'supervisors' whose only job is to walk around with a clipboard, and hire a full time dietician to teach those students the right way to eat...

In 10 years, would there be Greater or Less obesity in america?
(We can safely assume less)
Then the Q would be - because of the resulting decline in obesity and related illnesses, would the cost to taxpayers be higher or lower?
Lower, of course.

Essentially-
We are defending the right of obese people to teach their kids to be fatasses, so we can pay for it with increased taxes and higher national healthcare costs.


So, sorry, fuck em.  If you are 18% bodyfat or lower, then you're excluded.  If you're 260 pounds of fatass and you're shouting "no way, I can teach my kids how to eat" - Sorry, no you really can't.  You're going to teach them to be fat slugs just like you- GFY there, chubby.

We can't safely assume that by any means.  If the lesson in school is not reinforced at the home, the children will not eat better.

What we can safely assume is that we want to maintain a free country.  Full disclosure on the food, education for both children and parents, and I could probably get behind a national advertising campaign.

But trying to force it via government regulation?  NOPE...WILL NOT WORK.

[Soul Crusher]

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Fast-Furious-Eric-Holder/2012/02/02/id/428362


This guy destroyed holder today.  I watched it online. 

[Coach is Back!]

Who here still thinks this administration isn't still trying to create a dictatorship?

[Emmortal]

the people who load up on sugary shit their entire lives are more likely to be unhealthy and poor.
they are more likely to suck on the govt teet for healthcare services.
We're talking about the woman who gets social security for 40 years because her lazy ass ended up with diabetes at 30.


Now, if some sort of social control was put into place to ensure she wasn't buying candy by the pound at age 11 -
would you support it?

Keep in mind this obese warthog will be taking YOUR MONEY when she's diabetic sitting at home for 40 years because of the habits and juvenile diabetes she bought during her unattended sugary consuming years.

Hey, if you're okay with this fat pig x 50 million of them - then by all means, oppose this law.

I read somewhere that HALF of the people born today will have diabetes in their lifetime thanks to the shit food out there.

You can say "let the parents decide", but given the fact that ONE-THIRD of Americans are obese, I'm not so sure they have the mental capacity to decide.

You realize that most products today don't even have sugar in them?  They are loaded with High Fructose Corn Syrup, which obviously comes from corn.

Due to corn subsidies and tariffs on sugar imports corn has taken over as the most devastating product in our food culture.

Poorer families who don't have access to more expensive organic foods live off this shit because it's their only option.

[240 is Back]

We can't safely assume that by any means.  If the lesson in school is not reinforced at the home, the children will not eat better.

The schools have the kids more than the parents do. 

No, you woudln't have 100% change, but you would have some change.  There would be some % of kids that passed up some % of shit food (or didn't scream for it when they drove past the golden arches) if the schools emphasized it more. 

I can't quantify it, but I can say my own neices and nephews have asked me to get them apple dippers instead of french fries with their happy meals because their hippie teacher (same one who taught them to pick up litter in parking lots) told them that apples are better for their health than fries.

I mean, was she shitting on my ability as uncle to control what my kids eat?  sure.

For the kids standing in line with me in the mcD drive thru, she made a real change.  SO yes, even if it's a small percentage, i can guarantee kids will adjust diets voluntarily even when shitty uncles like me try to auto-order fries.

[howardroark]

The schools have the kids more than the parents do. 

No, you woudln't have 100% change, but you would have some change.  There would be some % of kids that passed up some % of shit food (or didn't scream for it when they drove past the golden arches) if the schools emphasized it more. 

I can't quantify it, but I can say my own neices and nephews have asked me to get them apple dippers instead of french fries with their happy meals because their hippie teacher (same one who taught them to pick up litter in parking lots) told them that apples are better for their health than fries.

I mean, was she shitting on my ability as uncle to control what my kids eat?  sure.

For the kids standing in line with me in the mcD drive thru, she made a real change.  SO yes, even if it's a small percentage, i can guarantee kids will adjust diets voluntarily even when shitty uncles like me try to auto-order fries.

Teaching kids about nutrition and diet from a young age in school seems like a good idea. NOT a function of the government though.