Author Topic: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests? (Read 8346 times)

reppingfor20 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 08, 2012, 10:09:48 PM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2012, 04:42:15 PM

for many reasons...

why isn't the Super Bowl anywhere else? same for the "world series"...which seems to only include USA and Canada?

bodybuilding is a worldwide activity though, baseball, football, those are American sports that most other countries don't play. Soccer is huge in other countries, not in the US though. So if bodybuilding is huge in other countries it make sense to have the Olympia there once in a while since it's a worldwide activity, look at the places of birth in the Olympia lineup. Arnold was not from America, everything doesn't revolve around the US, bodybuilding could become more popular if you had Olympia out of US and rotated sites, I know it would be a pain in the ass, but it would gain more audience.

dantelis · « **Reply #51 on:** February 09, 2012, 07:39:24 AM »

Quote from: reppingfor20 on February 08, 2012, 10:09:48 PM

bodybuilding is a worldwide activity though, baseball, football, those are American sports that most other countries don't play. Soccer is huge in other countries, not in the US though. So if bodybuilding is huge in other countries it make sense to have the Olympia there once in a while since it's a worldwide activity, look at the places of birth in the Olympia lineup. Arnold was not from America, everything doesn't revolve around the US, bodybuilding could become more popular if you had Olympia out of US and rotated sites, I know it would be a pain in the ass, but it would gain more audience.

Not necessarily. The cost to put on a show can vary from location to location. For example, it would be much more expensive to hold a show in London, with the high costs for hotel rooms, venues, food, labor, etc., than to hold it in Las Vegas, where the occupation rate for hotel rooms is currently very low and options for show venues is extremely varied so prices are low. In addition, by holding it in the same location every year, the IFBB can establish relationships with hotels and conference locations to save money.

By all means, have a pro show in the middle east. Once that is established as a success and money maker, then consider running the Olympia there. Until that time, doesn't make sense to make the risky step of trying to do the Olympia in an untested market.

The_Punisher · « **Reply #52 on:** February 09, 2012, 09:29:12 AM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2012, 12:05:18 PM

The competitors are free to wear any trunks they wish...

most of the time it's not an issue, but I can't say I don't cringe every time someone feels it's necessary to hike them up their ass...

Definitely not needed

no way those old trunks are coming back to modern bodybuilding.....how would you expect these guys to display their Striated Glutes?......somethings should just stay in the past......

Oly15 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 09, 2012, 09:52:58 AM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2012, 05:06:49 PM

given the size of the fatty you date, I can see where you might think that's a thong...

Fucking LOL hahahaha

reppingfor20 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 09, 2012, 11:21:15 AM »

Quote from: dantelis on February 09, 2012, 07:39:24 AM

Not necessarily. The cost to put on a show can vary from location to location. For example, it would be much more expensive to hold a show in London, with the high costs for hotel rooms, venues, food, labor, etc., than to hold it in Las Vegas, where the occupation rate for hotel rooms is currently very low and options for show venues is extremely varied so prices are low. In addition, by holding it in the same location every year, the IFBB can establish relationships with hotels and conference locations to save money.

By all means, have a pro show in the middle east. Once that is established as a success and money maker, then consider running the Olympia there. Until that time, doesn't make sense to make the risky step of trying to do the Olympia in an untested market.

I agree, I wouldn't chose London though, somewhere in the middle east is where the money is at. The oil rich countries, they love bodybuilding, I am sure they would even pay for all the airfare, hotel costs and food, and gear for the competitors they are filthy rich. They have lavish hotels as well. They should try it at least once and see how it goes. You see how many pro's go to Dubai and other Arab countries to pose, there is money over their. They would probably even lower the hotel rates to match Vegas rates as well to get any Americans who wanted to attend so they just could get the Olympia in their country.

MCWAY · « **Reply #55 on:** February 10, 2012, 06:37:29 PM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2012, 04:01:37 PM

It hasn't qualified anyone for the Olympia since the old days...REALLY old days...like the 70s. since the 80s, I'm pretty sure it just got a pro card, but never a O qualification

Winning his class at the Universe in 1991 is how Ronnie Coleman qualified for the 1992 Olympia.

Remember the debuts of Gunter Schlierkamp and Roland Czurlok at the 1994 Olympia? They won their respective classes at the '93 World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships. I don't recall either man competing at any other pro show, prior to the Olympia.

MCWAY · « **Reply #56 on:** February 10, 2012, 06:38:56 PM »

Quote from: reppingfor20 on February 08, 2012, 04:06:25 PM

Why doesn't the Olympia go to Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or Egypt? The bodybuilding fans around the world would love to see these guys at their peak and I will bet you will sell more tickets to the show as well, the US is not the only place on the map.

The last Mr. Olympia held outside the US was the 1992 one in Finland, where Dorian Yates won. I believe they've all been in US since 1993.

reppingfor20 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 10, 2012, 06:40:54 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on February 10, 2012, 06:38:56 PM

The last Mr. Olympia held outside the US was the 1992 one in Finland, where Dorian Yates won. I believe they've all been in US since 1993.

interesting fact, I did not know that. I think the Arabs would foot the bill for everything if they had it in their country of choice. Hotel, everything, just look at all the pros who go over there, they never have a negative thing to say, in fact they go back yearly time after time.

Chick · « **Reply #58 on:** February 10, 2012, 07:20:03 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on February 10, 2012, 06:37:29 PM

Winning his class at the Universe in 1991 is how Ronnie Coleman qualified for the 1992 Olympia.

Remember the debuts of Gunter Schlierkamp and Roland Czurlok at the 1994 Olympia? They won their respective classes at the '93 World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships. I don't recall either man competing at any other pro show, prior to the Olympia.

It was by invite, I believe...as Ronnie competed a few times before the Olympia and didn't place very well. Glad the old Wayne D invite days went out with him...

MCWAY · « **Reply #59 on:** February 11, 2012, 03:52:47 PM »

Quote from: Chick on February 10, 2012, 07:20:03 PM

It was by invite, I believe...as Ronnie competed a few times before the Olympia and didn't place very well. Glad the old Wayne D invite days went out with him...

According to one website, he placed 11th and 14th at the Chicago Pro Invitational and NOC, respectively.

It makes no sense to invite someone with such meager showings. I also remember reading in one of my MuscleMags that someone asked what it took to qualify for the Olympia. Among the answers was winning your class at the Universe.

That would explain Czurlock and Schlierkamp, unless they got invites, too.

Tony Doherty · « **Reply #60 on:** February 11, 2012, 04:01:17 PM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2012, 12:56:46 PM

Don't like it myself, for a variety of reasons. Suggested we have one PERSON qualify at each show....not just the winner. hopefully, we won't run into a issue is one guy ends up winning 2-3 shows...

if we find it doesn't work, well take a look at it....nothing is set in stone, but we needed to do something so we don't have anymore than 15 or so qualifying at the olympia.

We agree on that one one BOB. If one person from every show qualified, no matter what, the problem would be solved. We would still end up with 15-20 qualified and when a couple pull out or get injured. We will get 15 on stage. I am finding it very hard to sign the guys this year as their dream has been killed off.

OTHstrong · « **Reply #61 on:** February 11, 2012, 04:37:07 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on February 10, 2012, 06:38:56 PM

The last Mr. Olympia held outside the US was the 1992 one in Finland, where Dorian Yates won. I believe they've all been in US since 1993.

Yes and has been in vagas since 99,

Stavios · « **Reply #62 on:** February 11, 2012, 07:06:26 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on February 11, 2012, 04:37:07 PM

Yes and has been in vagas since 99,

it would be cool if they changed the country where they old the olympia like they did before

but I guess if they keep doing it this way, it's because they make more money by having it in vegas

reppingfor20 · « **Reply #63 on:** February 12, 2012, 08:23:38 AM »

Quote from: Stavios on February 11, 2012, 07:06:26 PM

it would be cool if they changed the country where they old the olympia like they did before

but I guess if they keep doing it this way, it's because they make more money by having it in vegas

they really don't know until they try it in a rich Arab country and see what the money is like now, they never had it their and it could be a huge money maker and crowd draw.

sanam · « **Reply #64 on:** February 12, 2012, 10:25:43 AM »

Quote from: Chick on February 08, 2012, 12:56:46 PM

Don't like it myself, for a variety of reasons. Suggested we have one PERSON qualify at each show....not just the winner. hopefully, we won't run into a issue is one guy ends up winning 2-3 shows...

if we find it doesn't work, well take a look at it....nothing is set in stone, but we needed to do something so we don't have anymore than 15 or so qualifying at the olympia.

if u guys want to tighten up the Olympia qualification do it gradually.u guys cud have start with top 2 qualify for Olympia instead of top 3 or 5 in pro shows.if top 2 are already qualified 3rd and 4rth cud have given the qualification.only winner Olympia qualification option seems bit extream to me.it will drive lots of competitor away.guys wud think oh so and so gonna win why would i even bother.

jwb · « **Reply #65 on:** February 12, 2012, 10:39:52 AM »

Quote from: TheMessiahOfMuscle on February 11, 2012, 04:01:17 PM

We agree on that one one BOB. If one person from every show qualified, no matter what, the problem would be solved. We would still end up with 15-20 qualified and when a couple pull out or get injured. We will get 15 on stage. I am finding it very hard to sign the guys this year as their dream has been killed off.

This is what I said when they changed things the smaller promoters are screwed.

Jesus Christ the Olympia used to have 30 competitors during the 80's and it was no problem. You know why? They didn't dick around with all the rubbish they have onstage today.

Ron · « **Reply #66 on:** February 12, 2012, 03:02:45 PM »

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Why doesn't the Olympia go to Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or Egypt? The bodybuilding fans around the world would love to see these guys at their peak and I will bet you will sell more tickets to the show as well, the US is not the only place on the map.

The Mr. Olympia contest itself can probably move around if it was just that - one contest. However, in the last 10+ years, it is a whole event, a whole weekend, with 4 other contesta, a few other non-bodybuilding events, and a place where hundreds of booths and supplements companies go to. Las Vegas is the perfect destination for this event. Tons of hotels, and people from all over the world come to this event. You need a large enough arena, and a place for the convention expo. Vegas has proved it is the right place for the Olympia, just as Columbus is for the Arnold, just as FIBO is for Germany.

Yes, lets go to one of those countries, where woman cant even go without being harrassed, where Americans are being detained, and you need to be careful just to be safe. The US is where a ton of the supplement companies are at, and this is a place where they introduce many of the new products for the fall and winter seasons.

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what about the stupid special invites? I hope they never bring that back, just seemed to me like a slap in the face of the other pros who didn't qualify but still tryed too

If they do not have 15 people in the Olympia, in any contest, a special invite, if needed should be issued. Especially if someone did very well, and loses by a few points, and doesnt qualify because they chose to compete in a 'harder and tougher' lineup over an easier one. It will especially be important for the Fitness or Figure or Bikini Olympia this year, because all IFBB shows, only one person qualifies, and if you are already qualified, then no one goes.

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Don't like it myself, for a variety of reasons. Suggested we have one PERSON qualify at each show....not just the winner. hopefully, we won't run into a issue is one guy ends up winning 2-3 shows...

Yes, not a fan of this rule, and it may hurt the promoters because if someone who is already qualified wants to compete, no one else may have a chance to qualify, hence why even compete at that contest. The best rule change will be that ONE person qualifies at every contest. If first place already qualified, then the next one goes. Now that would make each contest something to work hard to compete in.

jwb · « **Reply #67 on:** February 12, 2012, 05:59:06 PM »

There should be one spot up for grabs at every show for someone who ISN'T already qualified. Last year a lot of different people won the various shows but that is far from a given. Vince Taylor and flex used to win the majority of non Olympia shows in certain years.

sanam · « **Reply #68 on:** February 13, 2012, 01:46:08 AM »

Yes, lets go to one of those countries, where woman cant even go without being harassed, where Americans are being detained, and you need to be careful just to be safe. The US is where a ton of the supplement companies are at, and this is a place where they introduce many of the new products for the fall and winter seasons.

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u Jew mo fo u dont miss a chance to bash Muslim countries.why not look into ur own back yard(usa) where rape cases are highest in the world.underage pregnancies highest in the world.domestic violence highest in the world.u make me sick.

Vince B · « **Reply #69 on:** February 13, 2012, 02:01:30 AM »

Sounds to me like the pro athletes endorse all these rules. No doubt about it at all. Shows what a great job Chick is doing.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #70 on:** February 13, 2012, 02:06:14 AM »

Get your head out of your ass Ron.