Author Topic: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman  (Read 29823 times)

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #50 on: February 26, 2012, 03:31:01 AM »
Haney rapes Dorian.

He also has better lines than Ronnie and more of a dense less bloofy look to his muscles.


Haney>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ronnie and Dorian.
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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #51 on: February 26, 2012, 03:50:27 AM »
vacuum should be a fucking mandatory



yeah better bodybuilder than coleman...


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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #52 on: February 26, 2012, 04:11:40 AM »
Haney at his best was similar to ronnie at his best.

huge, wide and amazing back.

huge pecs, great delts

tiny waist.

both had shitty abs.

but Ronnie also had quads and bis.

lee's pecs are better (no gyno as ronnie's)..
lee's abs are better..
lee's quads are better (shape wise) while ronnie's are bigger..
lee's calves are much better..
ronnie's biceps are better but lee's are not bad..
lee's triceps are better..

just my opinion 8)

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #53 on: February 26, 2012, 04:36:00 AM »



Haney and Ronnie were playing different games, Haney looks like he would have excelled at the crazy size game. But Ronnie smaller was had badass aesthetics also, so who knows.

I think Haney does have better pecs just cos of the gyno issue, but Ronnie's abs were clearly awesome once. My only thing with Haney is for all his amazing mass he has a clear arm imbalance. He could get as crazy big as he wants but his arms would stay the same. I think the 1991 Mr O look was pretty amazing though.

Also great to see Vince Taylor when he had quads and two eyes in some of those pics!

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #54 on: February 26, 2012, 05:04:36 AM »
both were amazing, but as stated, no one was better than a prime ronnie, especially dorian yates LOL ;D
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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #55 on: February 26, 2012, 05:08:31 AM »
amazing lat spreads
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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #56 on: February 26, 2012, 06:34:38 AM »
My two cents…
A major 'flaw' of Ronnie's physique - that surprisingly goes more or less unnoticed - is his lack of a huge ribcage. That flaw is noticeable in a lot of poses. That’s why, despite the many amazing individual bodyparts, Ronnie is not as dominant in many poses as we should believe. This is also due to him not being a good poser. You often don’t get the dominance of Ronnie by comparing poses. Instead, Ronnie’s unbelievable mass is most visible when you see him moving in-between poses or walking in the gym etc.  He is not able to reflect this as much as one should believe in the mandatories – especially from the front and side.  Just look at all the pics taken of Ronnie, how many astonishing pics are there of Ronnie in the mandatories (front/side)? Amazingly just a few are really amazing.  With that back, how is it possible not to have a better FLS? That’s why you see Hulkster almost always uses the same pics to illustrate Ronnie’s greatness in certain poses.
Anyway, I think Ronnie’s inability to really display his mass in the mandatories is due to his lack of a huge ribcage. It simply hurts him in a lot of poses. He being a bad poser is also due to this (and not only his posing ability).

From the side:
The side chest:  It’s only his mass that saves him, because he is not striking the pose in a good way. With that mass he should blow the others away (which he sometimes does, but not often enough or to the extent one should believe). Yates, on the other hand, does not have an extraordinary chest at all, but having a ribcage makes it a good pose anyhow. Also, the ribcage gives Yates thickness from the side. Not to mention Arnold, that had both the rib and the mass (or Lou).
Quarter-turns/relaxed from the side: This is Ronnie’s weakest ‘position’. Here, he does not stand out at all - despite out- massing his competitors. I guess this is the 'pose' that really makes Ronnie almost disappear.

From the front:
FDB: With those muscles, one should think Ronnie’s FDB would be better and more dominant than it was. Of the many pics of his FDB, there are only a few where he is really great in that pose. Thos having a huge ribcage has an advantage in this pose. They get some vacuum; the pec-line becomes more visible; their lats become more flaring etc. Take Arnold and Lee, and even Yates.
FLS: Same goes here. I guess there is only one good pic of Ronnie in that pose, and we all know what pic that is… In other pics, we get a ‘glimpse’ of the mass, but his inability to rise and expand his ribcage makes it more of a mess of mass… Here, just look at how Lee and Yates lift their huge ribcages, which makes the pose aesthetic and three-dimensional

Hulkster… Of course, there are a few more good pics (but surprisingly few, despite the many pics taken).  Anyway, with those muscle bellies and that mass, one should believe Ronnie would dominate the mandatories to a much larger degree.

I think Haney had the best structure of them all…

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #57 on: February 26, 2012, 08:03:51 AM »
I agree that Ronnie was a terrible poser.

yates and haney were great.

ronnie should have used a posing coach, that way every side chest shot he hit would look like this:

and even then, this is not hit in the "classical" (ie 70's) way pushing the arms up under a sucked in stomach (like arnold) but in the modern way where the abs are almost flexed.
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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #58 on: February 26, 2012, 10:22:12 AM »
Jesus look at those hamstrings  :o

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #59 on: February 26, 2012, 10:22:24 AM »
Please elaborate on this, was ronnie far, far superior to nasser?


At the show Ronnie claimed 320 lbs and Nasser Claimed 300. Ronnie still had his awesome shape and a hint of abs, Nasser looked like a wide water balloon. Flex claimed 260 and looked like a bloated child next to Ronnie.

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #60 on: February 27, 2012, 06:15:18 AM »
At the show Ronnie claimed 320 lbs and Nasser Claimed 300. Ronnie still had his awesome shape and a hint of abs, Nasser looked like a wide water balloon. Flex claimed 260 and looked like a bloated child next to Ronnie.

So at 320, ronnie made a 300 lb nasser look like a waster baloon

Ronnie was incredible

At his peak, and especially 98/99 obviously, the guy was untouchable

Nasser couldn't play that game, shame. Flex was never meant to go over 230


As much as I prefer haneys physique, gotta give it to ronnie, he took bbing to its possible max. Haney had a taper/waist and calves , but those are optional extras nowadays.

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #61 on: February 27, 2012, 07:07:58 AM »
Taking in consideration that this is the correct form to hit this pose....

This is the best Front Lat Spread pic I have ever seen.







WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #62 on: February 27, 2012, 07:14:26 AM »
A few more great FLS

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #63 on: February 27, 2012, 07:18:46 AM »
Almost all FLS of haney are outstanding... only a few you can say the same about

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #64 on: February 27, 2012, 07:24:26 AM »
A few more...

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #65 on: February 27, 2012, 07:30:53 AM »
Only a few - those with super-structure - can pull this off... Check out the Phil-like clavicle-with

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #66 on: February 27, 2012, 07:36:01 AM »
Not many could 'survive' standing relaxed next to Lee Haney  - had height, structure and mass...

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #67 on: February 27, 2012, 08:05:18 AM »
no one was better than ronnie in his prime. no one

Maybe, but the real question is...is no one better than growth NOOB?

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #68 on: February 27, 2012, 09:00:44 AM »
Ronnie was way stronger... But Im not sure how much of that differential was due to the dramatic differences in drug usage

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #69 on: February 27, 2012, 10:07:05 AM »
Taking in consideration that this is the correct form to hit this pose....

This is the best Front Lat Spread pic I have ever seen.







WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Reminds me of this Ronnie pic.

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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #70 on: February 27, 2012, 12:09:20 PM »
Haney is the greatest Mr. O, in my opinion, overall.


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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #71 on: February 27, 2012, 12:19:22 PM »
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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #72 on: February 27, 2012, 12:28:40 PM »
Reminds me of this Ronnie pic.

Wrong ..rule number one, If the traps are showing in the front double Bi pose, its done incorrectly.


I remember back in the day Joe would tell anyone that, plus you have to be able to draw a straight line over pecs and delts when hitting FLS...
As soon as you do that all the "flaws" come to light' unless youre Haney or Oliva of course....

I guess today's champs are along when it comes to proper posing.


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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2012, 12:30:20 PM »
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Re: Lee Haney is better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman
« Reply #74 on: February 27, 2012, 12:36:06 PM »
Wrong ..rule number one, If the traps are showing in the front double Bi pose, its done incorrectly.


I remember back in the day Joe would tell anyone that, plus you have to be able to draw a straight line over pecs and delts when hitting FLS...
As soon as you do that all the "flaws" come to light' unless youre Haney or Oliva of course....

I guess today's champs are along when it comes to proper posing.


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LOL wrong? I just posted a pic. I wasn't arguing anything. Of course Ronnie isn't hitting the pose correctly. Plus, who the hell is talking about "front double bicep pose"? I posted a "front latspread" pic.