epicmass on: AAS dosage/first cycle

[epicmass]

On this board I have seen people advising AAS newbies to take high doses on a first cycle. Ok, I am not bashing that approach, they will make gains following those advices. But half the point of a first cycle should be about seeing how well you respond to AAS and how you react. So for example, why start on 2 grams of AAS when you might be a very good responder and blow up on a quarter of that? You can then keep the higher doses in the bag for later when you may need something extra.

Another point is the type of compounds for a first cycle. Keep it simple. There is nothing wrong with test only for a first cycle. If your training and nutrition are in order you can still blow the hell up lean with a small amount of test on a first cycle.

[Overload]

Good post and i agree 100%.

I would never recommend someone take more than a gram on their first cycle and that is pushing it.

You have to realize that we have a lot of different people on here with different views from all over the world. What is a normal beginner's cycle in America might not be much compared to another part of the world. I have read some European boards and they recommend guys start off with very high dosages. This guy i trained with for about 6 months was from the Ukraine and he laughed at the small cycles we told him we were running. He was like "you need 3g's of Test just as a base" and then he rattled off like 10 compounds that any serious competitor must take, and he was dead serious. He wanted to put a young bodybuilder on 3g's of Test EW and 150mg Tren A ED, then he mentioned all these orals and my jaw dropped when he said anything under 100mg of Dbol is a waste of time. Everyone has their own opinions on this stuff and it's hard to argue with people unless you know the entire story.

In the end it all depends on your goals and who you are asking. Many guys believe in large cycles from the get go, while others believe in moderate cycles with a blast and cruise method.

I think it's important to start off small to see how your body reacts to the compounds and you can gauge your progress from there. I didn't go over 2g's of gear until i was 2 years into using AAS.

Another thing is that some of these new guys asking for these mutation cycles are getting the info they asked for. Even though i believe it's wreckless to run high doses the first few years of cycling, we have many high level competitors on here that are having great success with these cycles and when new guys see these jacked up monsters on the board, of course they want to look like them, but many don't realize that it takes more than high dosages to have that look. Many of the guys on here running monster cycles have been doing this stuff for a very long time.

My first cycle recommendation has always been 500-750mg of Test EW with maybe some Dbol the first 6 weeks. At the end of the day we cannot stop people from using these high dosages and we at least need to try and educate people about the dangers of using high dosages.

[NeilGM]

First cycle was 15-20mg a d.bol a day for think it was 6 weeks

[falco]

The body won't even use all that amount.
Today's youngsters just want to snap their fingers and voilá: add 40lbs of ripped muscle.