20yr old first cycle.

[kris1337]

Hi, long time lurker checking in here. just wondering what your thoughts are on my first cycle, of Tren A at 350mg pw and Test prop 300mg pw. All gear will be lixus labs as atm only source that is avalible. I plan to pin EOD 75mg Tren and 100mg prop. Ill have nolva and adex on hand. I have never used Steroids before but have been researching them for well over two years. My current stats are 6'0 weighing roughly between 230-236 depending on food intake, bf% not to sure estimate around 12-13% as i have top abs and some veins in lower abs most of my fat seems to be held in my lower stomach/ lower back area.
  Just looking for some views on this as a first cycle and any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Hiitsmichael]

Diet yourself down. either way id run 350 tren a 350 test prop per week pin ed or eod. If this is your first cycle and you're 240 at 6 foot you're not 12%

[kris1337]

thanks for the reply, like i said bf wasn't to sure only really going on general consensus on here, although i wouldn't say it was much higher based on abs, visible teardrop etc. What would be your thoughts on running a quick 4 week blast of clen and t3 prior to this cycle so im starting Tren at a lower body fat? or should I just use tren as i stand atm?

[D.O.U.P]

Hi, long time lurker checking in here. just wondering what your thoughts are on my first cycle, of Tren A at 350mg pw and Test prop 300mg pw. All gear will be lixus labs as atm only source that is avalible. I plan to pin EOD 75mg Tren and 100mg prop. Ill have nolva and adex on hand. I have never used Steroids before but have been researching them for well over two years. My current stats are 6'0 weighing roughly between 230-236 depending on food intake, bf% not to sure estimate around 12-13% as i have top abs and some veins in lower abs most of my fat seems to be held in my lower stomach/ lower back area.
  Just looking for some views on this as a first cycle and any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Finally!

Glad to see that you will be starting off with a moderate dose, thats a good move.

650 per week of legit gear will CHANGE YOUR BODY as long as you eat a decent diet, do some cardio (3 times a week) and TRAIN.

Perhaps start with 300 mg of tren plus 200 mg of test for the first two weeks, then see how ya feel. Tren is no joke so just watch your mind.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Hi, long time lurker checking in here. just wondering what your thoughts are on my first cycle, of Tren A at 350mg pw and Test prop 300mg pw. All gear will be lixus labs as atm only source that is avalible. I plan to pin EOD 75mg Tren and 100mg prop. Ill have nolva and adex on hand. I have never used Steroids before but have been researching them for well over two years. My current stats are 6'0 weighing roughly between 230-236 depending on food intake, bf% not to sure estimate around 12-13% as i have top abs and some veins in lower abs most of my fat seems to be held in my lower stomach/ lower back area.
  Just looking for some views on this as a first cycle and any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I KNOW IM IN THE MINORITY HERE BY SAYING THIS, BUT YOUR STILL TOO YOUNG... put a couple of more years under your belt, right now you can still grow " naturally", the younger you start, the sooner you will burn out your receptors and risk fucking up ur hormones... its one thing to try to elevate your hormones once they start declining, but at the age of 20, you should be at your peak, no need to add more to it... thats just my opinion.

im not against steroids, but IMO under 25 you shouldnt mess with it, but again, YES I KNOW IM IN THE MINORITY HERE !

[epicmass]

In your early 20's you should be able to make good gains with correct training and nutrition. Save the gear until later. But as you probably will not follow that advice, just do a low dose of test. It will be easier to recover from.

[SmoofCat]

Hi, long time lurker checking in here. just wondering what your thoughts are on my first cycle, of Tren A at 350mg pw and Test prop 300mg pw. All gear will be lixus labs as atm only source that is avalible. I plan to pin EOD 75mg Tren and 100mg prop. Ill have nolva and adex on hand. I have never used Steroids before but have been researching them for well over two years. My current stats are 6'0 weighing roughly between 230-236 depending on food intake, bf% not to sure estimate around 12-13% as i have top abs and some veins in lower abs most of my fat seems to be held in my lower stomach/ lower back area.
  Just looking for some views on this as a first cycle and any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I do not think you are too young. And I do like your cycle, and the doses. Also, I am glad you have a couple ancillaries there like the adex and nolva. This is your first cycle, and it is good to have them on you in case your body reacts poorly. I disagree with others that this cycle will "fully change" your body, but you will see some significant improvements. You do not mutate off of one cycle.

[Sector]

I KNOW IM IN THE MINORITY HERE BY SAYING THIS, BUT YOUR STILL TOO YOUNG... put a couple of more years under your belt, right now you can still grow " naturally", the younger you start, the sooner you will burn out your receptors and risk fucking up ur hormones... its one thing to try to elevate your hormones once they start declining, but at the age of 20, you should be at your peak, no need to add more to it... thats just my opinion.

im not against steroids, but IMO under 25 you shouldnt mess with it, but again, YES I KNOW IM IN THE MINORITY HERE !

I tend to be agains anyone under 21 cycling, I used to feel 25 was a good age but the fact is alot more teens are showing signs or even bloodwork having low testosterone these days. I personally had test levels in the high 200s when I was only 19 years old and hadnt touched a hormone.

Add to that the fact that if you want to go far in BB ( not saying everyone does or that the OP does ) you have to start early.

OP, personally I think its a little silly to start with Tren on your first cycle but just do your research and have fun. Keep the doses under 350/350 on both compounds, if you have sever sides before you bailout try to lower the test down to 150-200.

[Marlo Stanfield]

I tend to be agains anyone under 21 cycling, I used to feel 25 was a good age but the fact is alot more teens are showing signs or even bloodwork having low testosterone these days. I personally had test levels in the high 200s when I was only 19 years old and hadnt touched a hormone.

Add to that the fact that if you want to go far in BB ( not saying everyone does or that the OP does ) you have to start early.

OP, personally I think its a little silly to start with Tren on your first cycle but just do your research and have fun. Keep the doses under 350/350 on both compounds, if you have sever sides before you bailout try to lower the test down to 150-200.

problem nowadays is that pretty much everything is LACED with some shit tahts not in the ingredient list. Alot of protein powders have shown to include some form of steroids in them, so nowadays alot of people dont inject themsleves, but unknowingly take steroids, because they take alot of other "supplements".  And prohormones fuck with your test levels too


And yeah, if the guy has BB dreams and aspirations, i would tell him to start at the age of 18, because to be an IFBB pro, your health must comein second... so you might as well start as hard and as early as you can... but not everyone wants to be an IFBB pro, its just alot of young guys wanna be jacked, without living the strict lifestyle...

[kris1337]

Thanks for all the replies greatly appreciated! Seems a lot of folks are trying to sway along the line of test only what would your thoughts be on dropping the tren and adding either mast or clen + t3 combo? Would this help me to almost do a recomp? Or stick with just the test alone?