Romney's cowardice keeps getting in the way

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Anyone who gives a stage to those who feel Ghettobama is a treasonous thug and tyrant gets my nod. 

then just say that.  But PLEASE don't become one of those repubs who, in 2 weeks, will have transformed to "You know, I think Mitt has been a consistent conservative all along, if you think about it..."

Dude signed a frickin' gun ban in his state.  Dude wrote obamacare.  Dude said economy is recovery.  Dude appointed leftists to court so as to not piss off the dems in Mass state govt. 

His only achievements are to achieve office, not rock the boat, succumb to liberal demands on big issues, and be rich.  That's it.  Let's not go changing his name to Reagan here.

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then just say that.  But PLEASE don't become one of those repubs who, in 2 weeks, will have transformed to "You know, I think Mitt has been a consistent conservative all along, if you think about it..."

Dude signed a frickin' gun ban in his state.  Dude wrote obamacare.  Dude said economy is recovery.  Dude appointed leftists to court so as to not piss off the dems in Mass state govt. 

His only achievements are to achieve office, not rock the boat, succumb to liberal demands on big issues, and be rich.  That's it.  Let's not go changing his name to Reagan here.

I am ABO.    Get it?   A B O.

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I am ABO.    Get it?   A B O.

I respect that.  I"m just saying, PLEASE don't become a romney guy and rewrite his record.

I agree, Romney > Obama.  BUt ROmney's just a more conservative liberal.

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then just say that.  But PLEASE don't become one of those repubs who, in 2 weeks, will have transformed to "You know, I think Mitt has been a consistent conservative all along, if you think about it..."

Dude signed a frickin' gun ban in his state.  Dude wrote obamacare.  Dude said economy is recovery.  Dude appointed leftists to court so as to not piss off the dems in Mass state govt. 

His only achievements are to achieve office, not rock the boat, succumb to liberal demands on big issues, and be rich.  That's it.  Let's not go changing his name to Reagan here.

He did that in one of the most liberal states in the Union. And he did some good things, such as balancing the budget without raising tax rates. And, actually 240, his record in Mass. is better and more conservative than Reagan's record in California was.

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He did that in one of the most liberal states in the Union. And he did some good things, such as balancing the budget without raising tax rates. And, actually 240, his record in Mass. is better and more conservative than Reagan's record in California was.

and in balancing the budget, he was 47th out of 50th in job creation.  Mass is a state with a lot of mental horsepower compared to alabama, georgie, Tenn, etc.  Way underperforming - kind of a theme with romeny.

i dunno how he's going to do both - balancing the budget and adding jobs - while at the same time handing over 2+ trillion a year to the wealthy, as per the Ryan plan.

I like the first half - slash spending.  But giving most of those saving to the super wealthy in tax breaks?  I dont think that creates jobs.  They have the Bush cuts and they're putting the money into building iphones in china and investing all their dollars in gold.  

giving the wealthy 2 tril a year in breaks isn't going to create more jobs.  It's just not.  They're still not spending the stim money - they don't want to.  They're putting it in foreign currency and precious metals.  ANd I think they'll do the same with the Ryan cash.

So romney's record + romney's plan... neither show me how he'll create jobs.

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and in balancing the budget, he was 47th out of 50th in job creation.  Mass is a state with a lot of mental horsepower compared to alabama, georgie, Tenn, etc.  Way underperforming - kind of a theme with romeny.

i dunno how he's going to do both - balancing the budget and adding jobs - while at the same time handing over 2+ trillion a year to the wealthy, as per the Ryan plan.

I like the first half - slash spending.  But giving most of those saving to the super wealthy in tax breaks?  I dont think that creates jobs.  They have the Bush cuts and they're putting the money into building iphones in china and investing all their dollars in gold.  

giving the wealthy 2 tril a year in breaks isn't going to create more jobs.  It's just not.  They're still not spending the stim money - they don't want to.  They're putting it in foreign currency and precious metals.  ANd I think they'll do the same with the Ryan cash.

So romney's record + romney's plan... neither show me how he'll create jobs.

Balancing the budget HELPS ADD JOBS, just as it did in the 90s. But you cant do what moronic Europe did, which is raise taxes AND cut spending. That's the worst possible thing.

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Balancing the budget HELPS ADD JOBS, just as it did in the 90s. But you cant do what moronic Europe did, which is raise taxes AND cut spending. That's the worst possible thing.

Give the tax cuts to the poor and middle class fuck the rich

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Give the tax cuts to the poor and middle class fuck the rich

Poor dont pay taxes

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Give the tax cuts to the poor and middle class fuck the rich

yep.  i'm all for balancing the budget, and all for cutting spending.  And I am cool with KEEPING the budh tax cuts.

but ryan wants to give the super wealthy an extra 2 tril above what they're gtting now under the bush cuts.

mm2k, it's not about "RAISING taxes" - keep them constant for everyone, leave bush cuts in place, and slash spending.  

but cutting 'entitlements' like social security then handing the bulk of it to those making 1+ million a year, in the belief they'll suddesly invest it here (when they have a nice track record of taking bush tax cut $ and stim money and NOT doing that) is nuts.

and most repubs know it - everyone backed away from the ryan plan until romney was pretty much trapped into agreeing.

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Poor dont pay taxes

If they dont they dont have any income so there is nothing to tax

My point is if the repub really wanted something with tax cuts they should give them to the middle-class

But they are just corrupt fuckers who wants to take care of their rich friends all behind a cover of freedom

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yep.  i'm all for balancing the budget, and all for cutting spending.  And I am cool with KEEPING the budh tax cuts.

but ryan wants to give the super wealthy an extra 2 tril above what they're gtting now under the bush cuts.

mm2k, it's not about "RAISING taxes" - keep them constant for everyone, leave bush cuts in place, and slash spending.  

but cutting 'entitlements' like social security then handing the bulk of it to those making 1+ million a year, in the belief they'll suddesly invest it here (when they have a nice track record of taking bush tax cut $ and stim money and NOT doing that) is nuts.

and most repubs know it - everyone backed away from the ryan plan until romney was pretty much trapped into agreeing.

Ryan is piece of shit i would like to see him live on a minimum for a while

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If they dont they dont have any income so there is nothing to tax

My point is if the repub really wanted something with tax cuts they should give them to the middle-class

But they are just corrupt fuckers who wants to take care of their rich friends all behind a cover of freedom

Most middle class people dont pay much income tax.  Where they get raped is state taxes and fees mostly.  FICA taxes are what they are and no one should be immune from that if they want to take money out later in life. 

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Most middle class people dont pay much income tax.  Where they get raped is state taxes and fees mostly.  FICA taxes are what they are and no one should be immune from that if they want to take money out later in life. 

Compared to who? The rich?

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Ryan is piece of shit i would like to see him live on a minimum for a while

he loves america, i'm sure.

but his plan slashed medicare and social security greatly.  I'm fine with medicare, but a little iffy about social seurity - cause that money BELONGS to the people who paid it. 

Even conceding those points - his belief that of the 3 trillion cut, 2 trillion should go to the super rich was absurd.  Unbelievably absurd.  Indefensible - and so much that the GOPers at the time all tiptoed around it. 

Romney was forced to agree to it.

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he loves america, i'm sure.

but his plan slashed medicare and social security greatly.  I'm fine with medicare, but a little iffy about social seurity - cause that money BELONGS to the people who paid it. 

Even conceding those points - his belief that of the 3 trillion cut, 2 trillion should go to the super rich was absurd.  Unbelievably absurd.  Indefensible - and so much that the GOPers at the time all tiptoed around it. 

Romney was forced to agree to it.

He doesnt love America he would sell his country in an instant if the money was right