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China Heavyweight
« on: July 21, 2012, 09:58:29 PM »

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2012, 11:15:32 PM »
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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2012, 01:33:43 AM »
"Zeitgeist" films - oh brother.
Where are the heavyweights?
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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2012, 01:49:39 AM »

I'm having doubts recently if the Chinese will ever become legit true heavyweights.

Don't like admitting it but I've started to notice they might be total pussies after all.
So far, I'm not impressed. Paper tiger, as they say.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2012, 01:55:28 AM »
I'm having doubts recently if the Chinese will ever become legit true heavyweights.

Don't like admitting it but I've started to notice they might be total pussies after all.
So far, I'm not impressed. Paper tiger, as they say.
Hey, they have opened up shoe factories in Ethiopia...Chinese is apparently the dominant language, they are becoming heavyweights! Just like the Euros and Americans, use African cheap labor!

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2012, 02:00:04 AM »
Hey, they have opened up shoe factories in Ethiopia...Chinese is apparently the dominant language, they are becoming heavyweights! Just like the Euros and Americans, use African cheap labor!

Americans still resist to the idea of China becoming the no.1, but resistance is futile, while America is in serious decline.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2012, 02:01:47 AM »
Hey, they have opened up shoe factories in Ethiopia...Chinese is apparently the dominant language, they are becoming heavyweights! Just like the Euros and Americans, use African cheap labor!


But Chinese do no wars !!
IMO it's impossible to be heavyweight without sum' good ol' armed conflicts.
China has tons of reasons to use some power but for some reason they don't dare. Looks like if they were scared.


The day they say to Americans in UN security council meeting: "Fuk you fatsos, watch us"  and then take their land of Taiwan back is when they become the true heavyweights.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2012, 02:12:21 AM »
Americans still resist to the idea of China becoming the no.1, but resistance is futile, while America is in serious decline.
In order to be #1, you have to deal with #1's problems...Can't hide behind the US being the policeman. You have to exemplify what #1 stands for. You have to have people want to come and live in #1, want to be where #1 is. And you have export what #1 stands for.
So far, that ain't happening.
As with all things, you want to be number 1, you have to earn it, you have to take it.
It is just not given to you, bestowed upn you.

The fat American Giant is slowly but surely sinking to it's knees, but at the same time waking up. Only time will tell, if it will slay the Dragon, or if the dragon just proves to be what all dragons are---mythical creatures that were somewhat loosely based on reality.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2012, 02:21:02 AM »
In order to be #1, you have to deal with #1's problems...Can't hide behind the US being the policeman. You have to exemplify what #1 stands for. You have to have people want to come and live in #1, want to be where #1 is. And you have export what #1 stands for.
So far, that ain't happening.
As with all things, you want to be number 1, you have to earn it, you have to take it.
It is just not given to you, bestowed upn you.

The fat American Giant is slowly but surely sinking to it's knees, but at the same time waking up. Only time will tell, if it will slay the Dragon, or if the dragon just proves to be what all dragons are---mythical creatures that were somewhat loosely based on reality.

The US in it's unique form is gone.
I think/hope that it will officially break into self governing pieces like the rest of the globe. The big danger of course is the war for who gets the better place resources.... so "peace" was yesterday.
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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2012, 02:28:49 AM »
The US in it's unique form is gone.
I think/hope that it will officially break into self governing pieces like the rest of the globe. The big danger of course is the war for who gets the better place resources.... so "peace" was yesterday.
The US breaking apart---remember we had a War over Something Similar (State's rights they called it---state's rights to have cheap labor aka slavery).
I don't hope for that again, although the immigration issue maybe shaping it up be that way again, more battles over State's Rights and their illegal immigration issues.
We also may have states that speak predominately English and Spanish, again dividing us...

Remember the whole United We Stand, Divided We Fall? Americans are only united in watching "reality tv" and over-eating.
If The US broke apart, the poorest state Mississippi, would be a third world country, and would need constant aid.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2012, 07:17:18 AM »
China has tons of reasons to use some power but for some reason they don't dare. Looks like if they were scared.
The day they say to Americans in UN security council meeting: "Fuk you fatsos, watch us"  and then take their land of Taiwan back is when they become the true heavyweights.
They kind of started this back in February when they used their veto in the UN security council to prevent intervention in Syria.  UK, USA and the rest wanted to do something (Hilary Clinton especially) but China said "Fuk yoo white round eye dogs, u no doin nuthin". So we have done nothing.
Of course their friends Russia backed them in this.  Seems like the West are becoming pussies.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2012, 07:26:32 AM »
In order to be #1, you have to deal with #1's problems...Can't hide behind the US being the policeman. You have to exemplify what #1 stands for. You have to have people want to come and live in #1, want to be where #1 is. And you have export what #1 stands for.
So far, that ain't happening.

How is US the policeman? US (and Uk) ges involved in countries if there is an opportunity for the ruling 0.1% of Aluminati to make money. If there is no money to be made , we don't want to know (Syria, Sierra Leonne etc).

Can you name a single situation in the past 50 years where the US has become involved as the world's policeman purely for reasons other than money? 

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2012, 07:33:56 AM »
Holy shit, op is about twink gook rice villagers wanting to box, then the thread morphed into empire politics. lol


...If America is put in a corner, they'll resort to unleashing every last nuclear weapon in their arsenal. They've done it in the past, and i think they will do it again.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2012, 08:36:19 AM »
How is US the policeman? US (and Uk) ges involved in countries if there is an opportunity for the ruling 0.1% of Aluminati to make money. If there is no money to be made , we don't want to know (Syria, Sierra Leonne etc).

Can you name a single situation in the past 50 years where the US has become involved as the world's policeman purely for reasons other than money?  

Ah, and aren't policemen paid? Do you think the cops (on a grand scale) do what they do if they weren't paid?
Recognize the system on a grand scale. We can "say" we do things on a moral basis, but there is always a reason of what is in it for us? Even in WWII, Churchill wanted us in earlier, but "we" couldn't justify it, until we "allowed" Pearl Harbor to happen.

We then became self appointed Policeman of the free, but that was a guise, because as you pointed out, Sierre Leone, Rwanda, etc...we only "patrol" the areas we have interests in.

Crime pays, it's a business---no warlords, boogeymen, no good for business, so you create them or allow them to grow.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2012, 09:37:54 AM »
They kind of started this back in February when they used their veto in the UN security council to prevent intervention in Syria.  UK, USA and the rest wanted to do something (Hilary Clinton especially) but China said "Fuk yoo white round eye dogs, u no doin nuthin". So we have done nothing.
Of course their friends Russia backed them in this.  Seems like the West are becoming pussies.


Actually it's Russia who backs Syria.

That was just an example I wanted to present. who has floated ships around Syrian waters through the crisis? Russia. No single Chinese vessel has been seen to enter those waters.
who supplies Syria with arms? Russia.
whose intelligence officers have made trips to Syria? Russian. No reports about Chinese in Syria.


I would expect China to start act like their economic size would demand.
But it's obvious they can't do this. They are too dependent on USA. Just another colony of yankee.
If Americans would get pissed off of them, their country would collapse.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2012, 10:17:54 AM »
Holy shit, op is about twink gook rice villagers wanting to box, then the thread morphed into empire politics. lol


...If America is put in a corner, they'll resort to unleashing every last nuclear weapon in their arsenal. They've done it in the past, and i think they will do it again.


All life will be destroyed, you understand that.



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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2012, 11:01:33 AM »
All life will be destroyed, you understand that.



Correct.
If were gonna go down, were taking EVERYONE with us.  ;D

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2012, 11:10:28 AM »
Actually it's Russia who backs Syria.

That was just an example I wanted to present. who has floated ships around Syrian waters through the crisis? Russia. No single Chinese vessel has been seen to enter those waters.
who supplies Syria with arms? Russia.
whose intelligence officers have made trips to Syria? Russian. No reports about Chinese in Syria.


I would expect China to start act like their economic size would demand.
But it's obvious they can't do this. They are too dependent on USA. Just another colony of yankee.
If Americans would get pissed off of them, their country would collapse.

You're right their economy would collapse if we stopped buying their crap.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2012, 11:19:13 AM »
Actually it's Russia who backs Syria.

That was just an example I wanted to present. who has floated ships around Syrian waters through the crisis? Russia. No single Chinese vessel has been seen to enter those waters.
who supplies Syria with arms? Russia.
whose intelligence officers have made trips to Syria? Russian. No reports about Chinese in Syria.


I would expect China to start act like their economic size would demand.
But it's obvious they can't do this. They are too dependent on USA. Just another colony of yankee.
If Americans would get pissed off of them, their country would collapse.

And the West arm the rebels/terrorists.

Western media also doesn't mention the atrocities committed by the 'rebels' and when they do they blame it on the government.

Western media has also been twisting some of the facts. For instance the Russians have not 'sold' Syria any new attack helicopters but sent them repaired helicopters that were sent about a year ago and could even document this.

Western Media also mentioned joint military exercises of Russia, Iran and Syria. They never happened.

The West don't care about the 'people' of Syria, if the rebels win it will be a hellhole for the people living there.
But as usual the West don't care. Look at Iraq? The people are far worse off than before but Westerners don't have to live there so it's not their problem.

Russia is right about Syria.
It's their problem and they should deal with it.

The US and UK will just end up creating more hatred against themselves and more potential terrorists.
Most of the problems in the region were created by them anyway.

America basically created Saddam, supported him and armed him.
America covertly supported the overthrow of the Shah in Persia and backfired spectacularly with the creation of Iran.
America flew over Osama bin Laden to Afghanistan and armed the rebels to fight the Soviets, when war was over they became Al Qaeda.
America and Britain created the state of Israel who the Arabs see as a 'Crusader' state.

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Re: China Heavyweight
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2012, 12:50:31 PM »
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