Michael Johnsons strong anti drugs stance

[RadOncDoc]

One thing you got to understand is that people like Michael Johnson,Carl Lewis,Usain Bolt are not normal people : they are FREAK OF NATURE , they are the GENETIC ELITE OF THE WORLD, and human specimens like them are born one every miliion.
But to think that this 3 athletes are clean is FUCKING RETARDED,just like thinking that Jay Cutler is clean too.
The big difference is that without steroid and HGH this 3 athletes (Michael Johnson, Carl Lewis,Usain Bolt) would always be SUPREME ATHLETES when instead Jay Cutler without drugs would be only a FAT WHITE BOY.

Yup. Regardless of their PED use, the 3 sprinters you mentioned are truly the genetic elite. We can argue all day about what they used, but at the end of the day, without drugs, Johson, Lewis, and Bolt would still be supreme athletes, while Cutler would be a fat, short nobody.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

You have to understand that these Elite athletes never worked a day in their life. They've been primed since a very young age and even mentioning drugs is the kiss of death to them. They will lie to the end. It's not like they have something to fall back on.

[bike nut]

Anyone who believes Ben or Michael Johnson, Lewis, Bubka, Bolt, Gatlin, Joyner, Jones, Jeter, Christie, etc. are natural is horribly naive. Natural to world class track athletes is being off the stuff two days prior to your "random" test.

The pathological lying is just an added bonus.

[randy841]

From memory Lewis did come out with a positive test, but it was buried as the USA didn't want the embarrassment.

"Carl Lewis has broken his silence on allegations that he was the beneficiary of a drugs cover-up, admitting he had tested positive for banned substances but claiming he was just one of "hundreds" of American athletes who were allowed to escape bans.

"There were hundreds of people getting off," he said. "Everyone was treated the same."

Lewis has now acknowledged that he failed three tests during the 1988 US Olympic trials, which under international rules at the time should have prevented him from competing in the Seoul games two months later.

The admission is a further embarrassment for the United States Olympic Committee, which had initially denied claims that 114 positive tests between 1988 and 2000 were covered up."

USOC logic goes like this -- as long as they are winning the medals while cheating it's A ok, because everyone else is obviously doing it, since they are getting busted. 

[randy841]

It was not a positive test for steroids.  It was for two stimulants and something that's banned because it's a key ingredient to making meth and is also found in cold medicine (this is why meth cookers run rackets to buy up all the Sudafed or whatever in the area). 

Like I said already if we're going to discount athletic performances because people used stimulants than just throw out every sports record in recorded history.

Lewis's positive tests were all covered up by the powers that be -- of the USOC.

Every time these athletes test positive - supposedly it's for cough based medicine or something laced with something, when in reality they are all really attempting to mask the use of other drugs.

[Marty Champions]

why would anyone ddo steroids, i would be too afriad of my weiner becoming impotent

[The Abdominal Snoman]

why would anyone ddo steroids, i would be too afriad of my weiner becoming impotent

this Olympic athlete can get a boner on command. Even while getting his medal...

Video taken by Basile...

[asbrus]

All Superior slave genetics!  Slavery wiped out all but the strongest and fittest, hence the reason black guys run like the wind - Slavery = cleansing the gene pool of all the crappy genes!

BULLSHIT. 99 PERCENT 0F SLAVES LIVED GREAT LIVES. THEIR LIVES WERE MUCH BETTER THAN IN AFRICA WHERE THEY WERE F0RCED INT0 WAR.

[Figo]

They're ALL on drugs.

They've almost ALL been on drugs since the 40s, when records were shattered out of the blue

Ben johnson has become the anti-christ cheating bad-man, but it couldve been ANYONE, since they're ALL on drugs

They're all genetic elite, all fantastic athletes that train extremely hard, but THEYRE ALL ON DRUGS

ALL OF THEM

If someone takes the WHOLE 100m line-up and gives them A REAL surprise unannounced test, they will ALL fail

Basically bolt is the best, fastest out of ALL the drug using genetic elite atm

[Mawse]

Wikipedo says he's 6'5" 210 lbs.

I can believe Carl Lewis was natural or was at least not on anything that had a major impact on his performance.  He was a phenom as a teenager and didn't really improve that much up until his peak, then declined into his 30s and was only dominant in one event (long jump) at which he was a generational talent for.  He also got thrashed in the 100 m in '88 (that race wasn't close at all) by a guy who was verifiably juiced to the gills.

My HRT doc was US olympic team physician during the years Lewis was competing and he has a slightly different opinion.

[cephissus]

Mandingo negros like Victor Richards are still strong as Oxens and pack on muscle like nothing, and the skinny Ethiopians are unbeatable at 3000M and beyond.  But us diluted negros, from the South and North, can only do wind sprints.  It seems to me that you polluted our gene pool with recessive white genes.  On top of that, you gave us genetically fucked up hearts like Eastern Europeans, so long distance running equals an instant heart attack.  

i thought some north african muslim and a white guy took 1 and 2 respectively in the 10k meter this time around?

[Jaime]

I don't know what your point is but Johnson tested positive for stanozolol after the race and later admitted to using steroids throughout his career.  This is well known, I don't need to go read about it.  Lewis never tested positive for steroids regardless of what you infer from his "terms of speech", and if he did and it was covered up I'm not sure why they would keep that covered and reveal the rest.

My point is that there were some very shady dealings and involvement from people on Lewis' team in the whole Ben Johnson situation.
If you choose to not actually look at the information that is out there then you shouldn't even pass comment.

Literally hundreds of failed tests were buried, but a few sacrificial lambs are sporadically needed. Carl was an exceptional athlete but Ben was just the better 100 meter runner, end of story.

Also stimulants are illegal, lol at them being banned because of them being a component of meth, they are illegal because they enhance your performance.

They are all genetic elite, they are all drugged to the eyeballs and the person that wins the races are the best in their disciplines.

[dj181]

what's bolts stats?

height, weight, arm measurement?

i'd put his arms at sub-14 inches

also he does have a bit of a preggo belly but maybe that's from bad posture ie. lordosis

[WillGrant]

i can quite easily believe he was clean. infact, i do believe he was clean.

To make it clear for you. 

Drugs common at the top of pro sports?

David Millar never tested positive for drugs. He admitted it only after being arrested at dinner one night with Sky Team general manager David Brailsford in France. Marian Jones also never tested positive but later admitted to systematic doping. So if the worlds best in sport mostly only get caught when they fess up what does that say about current testing methods and wide spread hot sauce usage?

[WillGrant]

Did you not read the first part of my post? Do you live under a rock? He competes in one of the most heavyily drugged sports AND set records, you do the math.

This

[Radical Plato]

BULLSHIT. 99 PERCENT 0F SLAVES LIVED GREAT LIVES. THEIR LIVES WERE MUCH BETTER THAN IN AFRICA WHERE THEY WERE F0RCED INT0 WAR.

Yeah Right! My slaves are happy says the slave owner - As happy as a battered wife resigned to her fate!
 Anyway, Michael Johnson agrees - check it out for yourself

I can see how Africans would have been truly thrilled to be transported in such a manner!

[crownshep]

Brilliant article by Matt Lawton in the Daily Mail in regards to the womens times in the 100m now,compared to Flo jO,and what the East Germans were up to,and just look at the pics of the East German female shot putter.Thats what the gear does to a woman.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2184608/How-athletics-scarred-reign-chemical-sisters.html

[JasonH]

Brilliant article by Matt Lawton in the Daily Mail in regards to the womens times in the 100m now,compared to Flo jO,and what the East Germans were up to,and just look at the pics of the East German female shot putter.Thats what the gear does to a woman.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2184608/How-athletics-scarred-reign-chemical-sisters.html

Yes, very good article.

It could be construed in one of two ways - that athletes are still using drugs but which aren't as strong as those in the 1980's, or that today's top athletes are genuinely natural, hence why the records (especially for the women) aren't being broken.

[Army of One]

Insane speed for a woman

[The Grim Lifter]

Insane speed for a woman

Died at 39 of 'natural causes'. But at death she was tested negative and so her husband said that was proof she never touched anything her entire career. LOL.

[asbrus]

Yeah Right! My slaves are happy says the slave owner - As happy as a battered wife resigned to her fate!
 Anyway, Michael Johnson agrees - check it out for yourself

I can see how Africans would have been truly thrilled to be transported in such a manner!

AFRICA WAS AND STILL IS A PLACE 0F WAR WHERE ALM0ST 50 PERCENT 0F ALL W0MEN ARE RAPED. SLAVES IN AMERICA LIVED MUCH BETTER LIVES THAN THEIR C0UNTERPARTS DID IN AFRICA. THE SLAVES THAT CAME T0 THIS C0UNTRY CAME FR0M A WAR RAVAGED C0NTINENT WHERE THEY WERE ACTUALLY SLAVES THEMSELVES. THE SLAVE TRADERS B0UGHT THE SLAVES FR0M THE SLAVE0WNERS IN AFRICA AND M0ST WERE PRIS0NERS 0F WAR. THEY DIDN'T JUST G0 INT0 AFRICA AND R0UND UP BLACK PE0PLE THR0UGH F0RCE. THEY WERE GIVEN BY TRIBAL LEADERS. THEN WHEN THEY CAME T0 THE STATES THEY ACTUALLY G0T DECENT CL0THES, F00D, AND EDUCATI0N.

[Wiggs]

Flo-Jo fast as fuck and fine as fuck...especially for a track star.

[bike nut]

My point is that there were some very shady dealings and involvement from people on Lewis' team in the whole Ben Johnson situation.
If you choose to not actually look at the information that is out there then you shouldn't even pass comment.
Literally hundreds of failed tests were buried, but a few sacrificial lambs are sporadically needed. Carl was an exceptional athlete but Ben was just the better 100 meter runner, end of story.
Also stimulants are illegal, lol at them being banned because of them being a component of meth, they are illegal because they enhance your performance.
They are all genetic elite, they are all drugged to the eyeballs and the person that wins the races are the best in their disciplines.

My recollection was that Ben's coach (Charlie Francis?) admitted that Ben was using, but said it would be insane to have been taking Winstrol/Stanozol at that point in their drug program.