NO MENTION of Medicare anywhere on the romney/ryan 2012 website

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I guess we see they'll be putting Medicare slashing in the drawer with the whole Romneycare thing.

Ryan is personally awesome, a true conservative, but it's nice to see they're going to put this issue to the side.  Voters don't want their parents losing their life savings cause Bank of America wants to give away mom's lifetime savings.

It'll be interesting to see how Ryan handles questions about his plan that one top repu called social darwinism.

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240, the website is exactly the same as Romney had it before the announcement, as far as I am able to tell.

For example, the "spending" section still has the same revolutionary items (cut the federal workforce by 10% via attrition -- saving a whopping $4 billion a year), plus the same imaginary ones ("empowering states to innovate" will magically save >$100 billion a year). And, just as before, these items come nowhere near to recouping the hundreds of billions in revenue he will eschew by instituting his tax cuts and reversing Obama defense cuts.

[Soul Crusher]

Hey you stupid FUCK - ObamaCare cut Medicare by 500 billion remember? 

[Straw Man]

Hey you stupid FUCK - ObamaCare cut Medicare by 500 billion remember? 

all the good lawyers I know are cool, calm and collected.
you seem to be in perpetual meltdown mode these days

btw - I'm sure you know that Ryan would cut Medicare MUCH more than 500 billion

I'm sure seniors and soon to be seniors will look forward to their coupons which they can use to go out and buy private insurance.

Ryan/Romney plan is basically to cut taxes on the wealthy and cut spending that benefits the other 99% in order to pay for it.   That is their entire plan in one sentence.

So far his plan isn't very popular even with the people he represents

[Soul Crusher]

all the good lawyers I know are cool, calm and collected.
you seem to be in perpetual meltdown mode these days

btw - I'm sure you know that Ryan would cut Medicare MUCH more than 500 billion

I'm sure seniors and soon to be seniors will look forward to their coupons which they can use to go out and buy private insurance.

Ryan/Romney plan is basically to cut taxes on the wealthy and cut spending that benefits the other 99% in order to pay for it.   That is their entire plan in one sentence.

So far his plan isn't very popular even with the people he represents

Hey moron - Obama already cut 500 Billion from Obamacare and has not done a damn thing about its unfunded liabilities. 

Defend that. 

[Straw Man]

Hey moron - Obama already cut 500 Billion from Obamacare and has not done a damn thing about its unfunded liabilities. 

Defend that. 

hasn't this already been explained to you before?


http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/jun/29/jon-runyan/jon-runyan-claims-barack-obamas-health-care-includ/

Our ruling

Runyan, repeating a Republican talking point about Obama’s health care law, said there are "$500 billion in Medicare cuts required to pay for this flawed legislation."

The legislation aims to slow projected spending on Medicare by more than $500 billion over a 10-year period, but it does not cut that money from the program. Medicare spending will increase over that time frame.

Still, a sliver of truth exists in this claim, because the difference in the spending will help offset costs of other provisions in the law.

We rate this claim Mostly False[/quote]

[whork]

hasn't this already been explained to you before?


http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/jun/29/jon-runyan/jon-runyan-claims-barack-obamas-health-care-includ/

Our ruling

Runyan, repeating a Republican talking point about Obama’s health care law, said there are "$500 billion in Medicare cuts required to pay for this flawed legislation."

The legislation aims to slow projected spending on Medicare by more than $500 billion over a 10-year period, but it does not cut that money from the program. Medicare spending will increase over that time frame.

Still, a sliver of truth exists in this claim, because the difference in the spending will help offset costs of other provisions in the law.

We rate this claim Mostly False[/quote]

Bump for 3333 called out in his BS lies again

[howardroark]

240, you either must be an idiot or a liar.

Go to mittromney.com. Scroll over "Issues." Scroll over "Medicare" and click. And viola, you're there. http://www.mittromney.com/issues/medicare

[LurkerNoMore]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

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240, you either must be an idiot or a liar.

Go to mittromney.com. Scroll over "Issues." Scroll over "Medicare" and click. And viola, you're there. http://www.mittromney.com/issues/medicare

And what did they say about the Paul Ryan plan there?

[Soul Crusher]

And what did they say about the Paul Ryan plan there?

LOL. 


And what is your messiahas' plan again? 

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LOL. 


And what is your messiahas' plan again? 

your defense of the flawed plan, is that at least he has a plan.

Funny, when libs used that argument to defend obamacare, you didn't feel that way.  Repubs offered nothing, and Dems offered a shit sandwich.  America chose the shit sandwich.

Ryan plan is a shit sandwich = that's better than no sandwich from the dems.  It works both ways, right? 

[Soul Crusher]

your defense of the flawed plan, is that at least he has a plan.

Funny, when libs used that argument to defend obamacare, you didn't feel that way.  Repubs offered nothing, and Dems offered a shit sandwich.  America chose the shit sandwich.

Ryan plan is a shit sandwich = that's better than no sandwich from the dems.  It works both ways, right? 

LOL.   Having no plan at all and your thug messiah rejecting his own deficit panel recs go us downgraded remember? 

[whork]

LOL.   Having no plan at all and your thug messiah rejecting his own deficit panel recs go us downgraded remember? 

Yes Obama got us downgraded. We had a healthy economy before..

[Soul Crusher]

Yes Obama got us downgraded. We had a healthy economy before..

Yes he did.   We have not had a budget in over 3 years w obama and Reid.   You call that responsible? 

[240 is Back]

LOL.   Having no plan at all and your thug messiah rejecting his own deficit panel recs go us downgraded remember? 

You like the ryan plan because "hey, the dems didn't offer ANY plan".

Do you like Obamacare because "Hey, the repubs didn't offer ANY plan"  ?

[Option D]

Hey moron - Obama already cut 500 Billion from Obamacare and has not done a damn thing about its unfunded liabilities. 

Defend that. 

hasn't this already been explained to you before?


http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/jun/29/jon-runyan/jon-runyan-claims-barack-obamas-health-care-includ/

Our ruling

Runyan, repeating a Republican talking point about Obama’s health care law, said there are "$500 billion in Medicare cuts required to pay for this flawed legislation."

The legislation aims to slow projected spending on Medicare by more than $500 billion over a 10-year period, but it does not cut that money from the program. Medicare spending will increase over that time frame.

Still, a sliver of truth exists in this claim, because the difference in the spending will help offset costs of other provisions in the law.

We rate this claim Mostly False[/quote]

Bump For 3333 trying to ignore this again

[Soul Crusher]

Bump For 3333 trying to ignore this again

Go tell that to obama's spokesbitch 

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[LurkerNoMore]

your defense of the flawed plan, is that at least he has a plan.

Funny, when libs used that argument to defend obamacare, you didn't feel that way.  Repubs offered nothing, and Dems offered a shit sandwich.  America chose the shit sandwich.

Ryan plan is a shit sandwich = that's better than no sandwich from the dems.  It works both ways, right? 

Dude, you are talking to a nimwit.  He is not going to answer because it will only show what a hypocrite he is.  Once he gets backed in a corner over his own words, it is simply nothing more than deflect, ignore, and trying to change the subject.

Good luck trying though.  The amusement factor is high.

[howardroark]

And what did they say about the Paul Ryan plan there?

It mouths the Ryan Plan practically word-for-word. Read his damn website and stop spreading lies, you stupid piece of shit.

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It mouths the Ryan Plan practically word-for-word. Read his damn website and stop spreading lies, you stupid piece of shit.

Scott brown is very much against the bill, wrote an op ed. 

maddow just listed the many repubs who hate this plan.  10 voted against it.

[howardroark]

Scott brown is very much against the bill, wrote an op ed. 

maddow just listed the many repubs who hate this plan.  10 voted against it.

The only reason to vote against the Ryan Plan is that it grows government too much.