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Immune To The Truth
« on: September 10, 2012, 02:21:30 PM »
Sept 10, 2012

This weekend Mitt Romney was on “Meet the Press,” which is completely different from a “Meet the Press” featuring a normal human being. They should call it “Mitt the Press.” Mitt has spent years trying to avoid being on Meet the Press. And he continued trying to avoid it even while it was on.

Mitt spoke about his stance about healthcare. An aide later had to clarify that Mitt thinks “the marketplace” will take care of people with preexisting conditions. But Mitt, how will someone whose infant child needs multiple heart-surgeries decide among all the competing offers for low-cost health insurance? Maybe Mitt thinks that people with preexisting conditions should just ask their parents to provide health insurance. Got that, Grandma? Ask Great-Grandma to handle that for you. 

It comes as no surprise that Mitt’s tax plan is missing a lot of vital information. Information about taxes is the last thing that Mitt Romney wants to give out. Now Mitt claims that his tax cuts for the rich will not “reduce the tax burden” for the rich. Uh… so why are you doing it? Mitt, I don’t give you credit for many real convictions, but I will admit that you have a deep and sincere desire to reduce taxes for rich people. Mitt claims his plan is a tax cut for everyone but that he closes loopholes so that the taxes of the rich don’t go down. I will give him this much—if he really did want to close tax loopholes for the rich, Mitt Romney would be the go-to guy. He knows more tax loopholes for the rich than anybody anywhere. Mitt says his tax cuts for the rich aren’t tax cuts at all. Mitt, why don’t you just start telling people that you are not Mitt Romney? That’s not much of a leap from where you are now!

Amazing— 15 percent of Ohio Republicans said that Mitt Romney deserves more credit for killing Osama bin Laden than President Obama does. When exactly did Mitt Romney have time to kill Osama bin Laden? Wasn’t he too busy saving the auto industry? The bottom line is, if Mitt Romney was in charge of getting Osama bin Laden, you can be sure that Mitt’s plan would be to let “the marketplace” take care of it.

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Re: Immune To The Truth
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 02:32:36 PM »
Sun Sep 09, 2012
Romney/Ryan going down in flames: Even Rasmussen shows 8 point Obama surge
by mikepridmore

Rasmussen has historically been pro-Republican. (link, link, link, link, link, link)  And this time they probably overestimated Romney's convention bounce by ... a ton, and now have numbers they can't explain in a Republican friendly way the way they usually do.

Rasmussen, as noted in The Hill on September 2:

    A Rasmussen poll released Sunday differs from Reuters and shows Romney holding his convention bounce. The conservative polling outlet found Romney with a four-point lead over Obama, whom he trailed by two points before the convention in the same poll. Rasmussen now shows Romney leading the president with 48 percent support to 44.

A week later from Rasmussen's site:

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows President Obama attracting support from 49% of voters nationwide, while Mitt Romney earns 45% of the vote.

Obama has gone from down four points to up four points.  An 8 point surge.

But that isn't all the polling goodness.  Reuters says that Romney lost a point after his convention.  Reuters/Ipsos:

    Democratic President Barack Obama regained a narrow lead on Saturday by 44 percent to 43 percent over his Republican challenger, former Massachusetts Governor Romney, in the latest daily installment of the four-day rolling poll.

    Romney was ahead by one point in Friday's online poll and two points in Thursday's survey...


A week later Reuters had:

    The latest daily tracking poll showed Obama, a Democrat, with a lead of 4 percentage points over Romney. Forty-seven percent of 1,457 likely voters surveyed online over the previous four days said they would vote for Obama if the November 6 elections were held today, compared with 43 percent for Romney.

    "The bump is actually happening. I know there was some debate whether it would happen... but it's here," said Ipsos pollster Julia Clark, referring to the "bounce" in support that many presidential candidates enjoy after nominating conventions.


Okay, President Obama was down 2 points the Thursday before the DNC convention and is now up 4.  That is a 6 point surge and it beats the hell out of Romney's negative 3.  (Romney went from up two on a Thursday to down 1 on Saturday.)

Gallup also showed Romney losing a point, even though they didn't headline it.  Gallup:

    Support was 47% before convention and 46% after

More here just to rub it in a little:

    Mitt Romney is the first candidate to receive a net negative swing in Gallup's tracking polling since the polling firm started measuring convention "bounces" in 1964.

    According to the Gallup results, Romney lost a point of support in the before-and-after measure while President Obama gained a point of support.

Last Friday Gallup had this:

    Obama Bounces Up to 52% Approval, 48% to 45% Over Romney

And then there is today:



Before the RNC convention Obama was down 1 point.  Now he is up 4 for a grand total of 5 points in the positive bounce direction.

More from PEC to rub in the negative Romney bounce some more. Princeton Election Consortium:

    The negative GOP bounce. As I stated before, the GOP convention was of no help to them in the Electoral College. Indeed, it appears that the race shifted towards President Obama by 6-15 EV, or about 1.0% of Popular Vote Meta-Margin. From an analytical perspective, a negative bounce is quite remarkable because all the talk in recent weeks has been of bounces being smaller or zero, but always in the hosting party’s favor.




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Re: Immune To The Truth
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2012, 03:23:12 AM »
Sept 10, 2012

This weekend Mitt Romney was on “Meet the Press,” which is completely different from a “Meet the Press” featuring a normal human being. They should call it “Mitt the Press.” Mitt has spent years trying to avoid being on Meet the Press. And he continued trying to avoid it even while it was on.

Mitt spoke about his stance about healthcare. An aide later had to clarify that Mitt thinks “the marketplace” will take care of people with preexisting conditions. But Mitt, how will someone whose infant child needs multiple heart-surgeries decide among all the competing offers for low-cost health insurance? Maybe Mitt thinks that people with preexisting conditions should just ask their parents to provide health insurance. Got that, Grandma? Ask Great-Grandma to handle that for you. 

It comes as no surprise that Mitt’s tax plan is missing a lot of vital information. Information about taxes is the last thing that Mitt Romney wants to give out. Now Mitt claims that his tax cuts for the rich will not “reduce the tax burden” for the rich. Uh… so why are you doing it? Mitt, I don’t give you credit for many real convictions, but I will admit that you have a deep and sincere desire to reduce taxes for rich people. Mitt claims his plan is a tax cut for everyone but that he closes loopholes so that the taxes of the rich don’t go down. I will give him this much—if he really did want to close tax loopholes for the rich, Mitt Romney would be the go-to guy. He knows more tax loopholes for the rich than anybody anywhere. Mitt says his tax cuts for the rich aren’t tax cuts at all. Mitt, why don’t you just start telling people that you are not Mitt Romney? That’s not much of a leap from where you are now!

Amazing— 15 percent of Ohio Republicans said that Mitt Romney deserves more credit for killing Osama bin Laden than President Obama does. When exactly did Mitt Romney have time to kill Osama bin Laden? Wasn’t he too busy saving the auto industry? The bottom line is, if Mitt Romney was in charge of getting Osama bin Laden, you can be sure that Mitt’s plan would be to let “the marketplace” take care of it.




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