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Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« on: May 20, 2013, 12:33:37 PM »
I'm with the majority.  They actually need to do more. 

Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
Sunday, 19 May 2013
By Greg Richter

A new poll found that Americans by a large margin believe that Congress is not overreacting to the burgeoning scandals plaguing the Obama administration.

A CNN/ORC poll found that 54 percent of Americans don't believe that Congress is overreacting to the IRS scrutiny of conservative groups, while 42 percent said that it is. By an even larger margin, 59 percent to 37 percent, respondents said Congress is making the right moves on the administration's actions regarding the Benghazi terror attack.

The poll came as White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer made the round of Sunday talk shows, defending President Barack Obama against charges that he was unaware of the IRS scandal until hearing press reports.

"Here's the cardinal rule … for all White Houses," Pfeiffer said. "You do not interfere in an independent investigation, and you do not do anything to give off the appearance of interference in an independent investigation."

Pfeiffer said Obama learned about the IRS scandal on May 10, the same day as the public, even though Treasury Secretary Jack Lew and Rep. Darrell Issa, a California Republican, were aware of the probe earlier and alert the White House about it while the investigation was ongoing.

The White House might not have ordered Internal Revenue agents to target conservative groups, but a "culture of intimidation throughout the administration" made them think it was acceptable, says Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

The Department of Health and Human Services, the Federal Communications Commission, and the Securities and Exchange Commission all have targeted groups with a right-wing bent, McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, said Sunday on "Meet the Press."

"What we're talking about here is an attitude that the government knows best," McConnell said. "The 'nanny state' is here to tell us all what to do, and if you start criticizing, you get targeted."

The IRS admitted that agents singled out groups with "tea party," "patriot," and other key conservative words in their names for additional scrutiny over the past two years when they applied for 501(c)(4) status. The status allows organizations to no pay taxes, keep their donor lists private, and engage in political activity as long as it is not the group's main focus.

A video of McConnell on C-SPAN on June 11, 1987, showed him critical of such groups, fearing that liberal organizations could use the status to hide donors who were contributing to political causes. Now, it is clear that the federal government is trying to target people on donor lists to shut them up, McConnell said.

"I was wrong 25 years ago; I've been right for the last two decades," McConnell said. "The government should not be trying to intimidate citizens who criticize the government from exercising their First Amendment rights."

Pfeiffer found some welcome news while on CNN's "State of the Union," which reported Obama's job approval at 53 percent. The numbers were up 2 percent from early April, and up 6 points from their low of 47 percent in mid-March.

"I think the American people have great faith in the president," Pfeiffer said.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Obama-CNN-poll-McConnell-Pfeiffer/2013/05/19/id/505229

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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2013, 12:47:42 PM »
I'm with the majority.  They actually need to do more. 

Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
Sunday, 19 May 2013
By Greg Richter

A new poll found that Americans by a large margin believe that Congress is not overreacting to the burgeoning scandals plaguing the Obama administration.

A CNN/ORC poll found that 54 percent of Americans don't believe that Congress is overreacting to the IRS scrutiny of conservative groups, while 42 percent said that it is. By an even larger margin, 59 percent to 37 percent, respondents said Congress is making the right moves on the administration's actions regarding the Benghazi terror attack.

The poll came as White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer made the round of Sunday talk shows, defending President Barack Obama against charges that he was unaware of the IRS scandal until hearing press reports.

"Here's the cardinal rule … for all White Houses," Pfeiffer said. "You do not interfere in an independent investigation, and you do not do anything to give off the appearance of interference in an independent investigation."

Pfeiffer said Obama learned about the IRS scandal on May 10, the same day as the public, even though Treasury Secretary Jack Lew and Rep. Darrell Issa, a California Republican, were aware of the probe earlier and alert the White House about it while the investigation was ongoing.

The White House might not have ordered Internal Revenue agents to target conservative groups, but a "culture of intimidation throughout the administration" made them think it was acceptable, says Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

The Department of Health and Human Services, the Federal Communications Commission, and the Securities and Exchange Commission all have targeted groups with a right-wing bent, McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, said Sunday on "Meet the Press."

"What we're talking about here is an attitude that the government knows best," McConnell said. "The 'nanny state' is here to tell us all what to do, and if you start criticizing, you get targeted."

The IRS admitted that agents singled out groups with "tea party," "patriot," and other key conservative words in their names for additional scrutiny over the past two years when they applied for 501(c)(4) status. The status allows organizations to no pay taxes, keep their donor lists private, and engage in political activity as long as it is not the group's main focus.

A video of McConnell on C-SPAN on June 11, 1987, showed him critical of such groups, fearing that liberal organizations could use the status to hide donors who were contributing to political causes. Now, it is clear that the federal government is trying to target people on donor lists to shut them up, McConnell said.

"I was wrong 25 years ago; I've been right for the last two decades," McConnell said. "The government should not be trying to intimidate citizens who criticize the government from exercising their First Amendment rights."

Pfeiffer found some welcome news while on CNN's "State of the Union," which reported Obama's job approval at 53 percent. The numbers were up 2 percent from early April, and up 6 points from their low of 47 percent in mid-March.

"I think the American people have great faith in the president," Pfeiffer said.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Obama-CNN-poll-McConnell-Pfeiffer/2013/05/19/id/505229

No shit...  They're under reaching. ..

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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2013, 12:50:57 PM »
I'm with the majority.  They actually need to do more. 

You still don't think his offenses are worthy of impeachment, beach Bum?   It's gotta be getting close for you. 

33 and I both feel he's crossed the threshold.  Spying on reporters, using IRS as attack dog for political enemies.  Benghazi.

Are you there yet?

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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 12:52:23 PM »
Obama should have been tossed out office when he tried pulling that stunt w KSM

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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2013, 12:57:40 PM »
You still don't think his offenses are worthy of impeachment, beach Bum?   It's gotta be getting close for you. 

33 and I both feel he's crossed the threshold.  Spying on reporters, using IRS as attack dog for political enemies.  Benghazi.

Are you there yet?

What specific offenses regarding the president are you talking about?

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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2013, 01:01:45 PM »
What specific offenses regarding the president are you talking about?

1.  Fast n Furious
2.  NLRB appointments
3.  Lack of Transparency
4.  Lybia and Benghazi derelection of duty
5.  Cronyism in the stim bill DOE plan
6.  seizing the AP's records
7.  Violating the judges order on the permit process in the Gulf
8.  ObamaCare
9.  Non enforcement of immigration laws
10.  Drone strikes and abuse of NDAA 
11.  expansion of wiretapping laws


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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013, 01:07:11 PM »
1.  Fast n Furious
2.  NLRB appointments
3.  Lack of Transparency
4.  Lybia and Benghazi derelection of duty
5.  Cronyism in the stim bill DOE plan
6.  seizing the AP's records
7.  Violating the judges order on the permit process in the Gulf
8.  ObamaCare
9.  Non enforcement of immigration laws
10.  Drone strikes and abuse of NDAA  
11.  expansion of wiretapping laws



I don't think most of those are crimes, but assuming all of them are, what evidence is there that Obama was directly involved in breaking the law?  

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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2013, 01:08:46 PM »
I don't think most of those are crimes, but assuming all of them are, what evidence is there that Obama was directly involved in breaking the law?  

He is the captain of the ship and all of these things occurred under his command.  At a certain point the boat is going to sink unless a new crew is brought in to repair the damage.  

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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2013, 01:12:39 PM »
He is the captain of the ship and all of these things occurred under his command.  At a certain point the boat is going to sink unless a new crew is brought in to repair the damage. 

Maybe if everything broke in September or October 2012, and there was no storm, the ship would have sunk.  And I agree he is responsible for what happens with his administration.  But unless he was directly involved in breaking the law, I don't think impeachment is realistic.   

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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2013, 01:31:01 PM »
He is the captain of the ship and all of these things occurred under his command.  At a certain point the boat is going to sink unless a new crew is brought in to repair the damage.  

going by these "rules" no one would be president....ever

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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2013, 01:47:42 PM »
too bad for Repubs that none of these things are actually "Obama" scandals no matter how much they try to pretend they are

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Re: Poll: Congress Not Overreaching on Obama Scandals
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2013, 04:26:22 PM »
too bad for Repubs that none of these things are actually "Obama" scandals no matter how much they try to pretend they are
in charge of everything, responsible for nothing...

going by these "rules" no one would be president....ever
aint that the truth