On the MD forum, Shawn Ray tearing Noel "Fake Guru" Fuller and B. Ray apart. One sample post from a bunch:
Originally Posted by Noel Fuller
I'm getting the feeling Shawn doesn't like BRay for some reason, hmm what could that be?
Criticism is just that.
I don't have to "Like" someone to not be able to form an opinion.
Stating the Obvious Joel doesn't make him an Enemy of mine-
Soft, Flat, Watery, No Color, Horrible Posing Display, No improvements working with you, getting beat by lessor competitors.
Why do I have to not like him for me to be able to say these Obvious things??
He needs a "Training Partner" not a Guru to tell him when to Piss!
You can take it however you want, the fact remains that if he is Paying you "It's a Bad Investment!"
Nothing personal but as always I assume you feel it is.
If so, turn it around, so far Hany, Long and now you have All Failed.
The rest is up to B- Ray and he needs to hear the Truth not some, "You looked better in the Gym standing alone a week before the show shit!"
Get it right onstage or send him packing! Holding him hostage as a Lab Rat won't win you any fans!!!!
Strength & Honor!