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Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« on: June 29, 2013, 10:41:54 AM »
Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
June 28, 2013  SIMON MALOY

Fox News' Erick Erickson, a terrible pundit who is often hilariously wrong, has figured out what's wrong with America. The problem, Erickson wrote on RedState.com, is that there is "a massive disconnect between the chattering classes and politicos of Washington and New York and the rest of America," as evidenced by "the price of a gallon of milk and loaf of bread that keep [sic] going up though Ben Bernanke tells them there is no inflation."

Erickson, of course, is very much a member of the "chattering class" he disdains, though he'd have us believe that being paid to natter about politics on cable news has not frayed his connection to the people. Paul Krugman, however, fisked Erickson's "gallon of milk" punditry on his New York Times blog and pointed out that, contrary to Erickson's hoi polloi divinations of soaring inflation, prices for milk and bread haven't really budged. But Erickson is unmoved, allowing that he is wrong on the facts but insisting that it's more important to cater to the misperception of rising milk and bread prices than to actually be correct.

In an email to Politico's Dylan Byers, Erickson said as much:

Not everything is academic or chartable and sometimes the accuracy of the chart isn't as real to people as the perception they have that their grocery store bills are getting more expensive though their shopping habits haven't changed.

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Seriously, Paul's point is correct, but it is an issue of perception of people versus the reality of his chart.  He can certainly go tell people milk prices haven't gone up, but good luck getting them to believe him.

The facts say one thing, but the perception is otherwise, and since Erickson prefers the perception to the reality, he'll disregard the facts.

Did I mention Erickson works for Fox News?

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Re: Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2013, 10:49:23 AM »
Prices has gone up but so has wages.

Im not sure what Ericksons point is here.

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Re: Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2013, 12:50:19 PM »
Prices has gone up but so has wages.

Im not sure what Ericksons point is here.

Wages haven't increased, net total they are down from 2008.

Wages for the top 3-4% are the only ones to have gained in that time period.

I've posted the graphs before.

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Re: Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2013, 01:23:43 PM »
Prices has gone up but so has wages.

Im not sure what Ericksons point is here.
Id be interested to know WHO'S wages have gone up, because no one I know has seen a significant increase.since 2008. And grocery bills have gone up significantly despite wages stagnating.... At least in Washington. The only people I know that have seen wage increases are people that work for Boeing, and that's because its in their union contracts.

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Re: Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2013, 01:34:30 PM »
Id be interested to know WHO'S wages have gone up, because no one I know has seen a significant increase.since 2008. And grocery bills have gone up significantly despite wages stagnating.... At least in Washington. The only people I know that have seen wage increases are people that work for Boeing, and that's because its in their union contracts.

All the wage increases since 2007-8 have gone to the top 5% or so, especially so for the top 1%.

That's it, that's all.

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Re: Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2013, 01:43:59 PM »
All the wage increases since 2007-8 have gone to the top 5% or so, especially so for the top 1%.

That's it, that's all.
"Only the top 5% matters. The rest are moochers and takers. Survival of the fittest should be the American motto."
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Re: Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2013, 02:59:50 PM »
"Only the top 5% matters. The rest are moochers and takers. Survival of the fittest should be the American motto."
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Heh. You wouldn't also be Cholo4life, would you?

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Re: Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2013, 03:03:03 PM »
"Only the top 5% matters. The rest are moochers and takers. Survival of the fittest should be the American motto."
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Dumb.

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Re: Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2013, 07:59:01 AM »
Wages haven't increased, net total they are down from 2008.

Wages for the top 3-4% are the only ones to have gained in that time period.

I've posted the graphs before.

Has the price of milk and bread gone up since 2008?

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Re: Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2013, 08:03:17 AM »
Dumb.

Indeed, republicans are quite dumb.

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Re: Perception Versus Reality Versus Erick Erickson
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2013, 08:03:42 AM »
Has the price of milk and bread gone up since 2008?
I don't know if those 2 items in particular have, but I know beef has gone way up. I also know that the same cart of grocieries that used to cost 60 now costs 100 without fail