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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2013, 08:23:15 PM »
funny, I recently read on Bloomberg that the exchanges in NYC were going to drop the premiums for losers like you by 50% or more



Funny, I just read in Florida it's going to rise 40%. Face it, your boy is an unqualified idiot.

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2013, 04:22:08 AM »

Rebuttal. It's spelled rebuttal.

Completely misunderstood the source information in his opening post?CHECK.
Backtracked midway through the thread? CHECK.
Misspelled grammar school-level word? CHECK.

A trademark Tony McTones' thread.
The only thing missing is you bragging about how your university of phoenix degree gives you some special insight into the matter.

brahahahahahahahahaha

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2013, 04:06:42 PM »

Rebuttal. It's spelled rebuttal.

Completely misunderstood the source information in his opening post?CHECK.
Backtracked midway through the thread? CHECK.
Misspelled grammar school-level word? CHECK.

A trademark Tony McTones' thread.
The only thing missing is you bragging about how your university of phoenix degree gives you some special insight into the matter.
haha oh nossss the grammar police!!!

still no response to the overwhelming evidence that obamacare is hindering the economy?

what exactly did i misunderstand about the source info?
where did I backtrack again?

so lets recap

avoiding the issue at hand? Check
attacking the poster instead of addressing the topic? Check?
making up statements to support their stance? CHECK?

I would say this is typical of a albert response but truth be told its typical of a much broader group...the fundy libtard as evidenced by the ones who have posted in this thread and not one of you morons have addressed the facts that obamacare is obviously hindering economic growth.

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2013, 06:21:04 PM »
haha oh nossss the grammar police!!!
No, not the grammar police. Just pointing out your habit of misspelling the simplest of words. It plays to the larger point of your underpowered intelllect.
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still no response to the overwhelming evidence that obamacare is hindering the economy?

what exactly did i misunderstand about the source info?
where did I backtrack again?

so lets recap

Your "evidence" is a survey of members of a political lobby that has actively and vigorously opposed Obamacare. That's not fucking evidence of anything! You saw some article about how the US Chamber of Commerce had a negative outlook on Obamacare and rushed to start a thread on it, having no fucking idea what the CoC was , as  shown in your opening post when you imply that this survey is somehow politically unbiased ::). It's typical you:ignorant, uninformed and a bad speller.

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2013, 06:25:26 PM »
No, not the grammar police. Just pointing out your habit of misspelling the simplest of words. It plays to the larger point of your underpowered intelllect.
Your "evidence" is a survey of members of a political lobby that has actively and vigorously opposed Obamacare. That's not fucking evidence of anything! You saw some article about how the US Chamber of Commerce had a negative outlook on Obamacare and rushed to start a thread on it, having no fucking idea what the CoC was , as  shown in your opening post when you imply that this survey is somehow politically unbiased ::). It's typical you:ignorant, uninformed and a bad speller.
lol the answer speak for themselves, they are the answers from business owners albert...

do you really feel that obamacare has not hindered economic growth?

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2013, 06:52:14 PM »
lol the answer speak for themselves, they are the answers from business owners albert...
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do you really feel that obamacare has not hindered economic growth?
This is debatable. Definitely not to the degree your "evidence"  purports.

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2013, 07:04:57 PM »
::).

This is debatable. Definitely not to the degree your "evidence"  purports.
rolling your eyes...brilliant point...

and what proof do you have to bolster your opinion that the survey is inaccurate?

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2013, 07:17:18 PM »
Obama Care negatively impacts small business and is a net drain on the economy....as it produces (service) nothing to add to GDP and takes away resources from companies. A perpetual and boundless drain on the productive in our society.

To even debate this is useless and would only waste keystrokes....unless you're a civil servant in which case waste is all you produce.

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2013, 07:26:21 PM »
rolling your eyes...brilliant point...
Why am I not surprised that you would find a smiley face a brilliant response? I guess compared to most of the drivel you churn out, it does look that way.

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and what proof do you have to bolster your opinion that the survey is inaccurate?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/a-misleading-obamacare-poll-courtesy-of-the-chamber-of-commerce-and-harris-interactive/2013/07/30/26e5f51c-f94a-11e2-8e84-c56731a202fb_blog.html

A misleading ‘Obamacare’ poll, courtesy of the Chamber of Commerce and Harris Interactive

Cliffs:

Here, the polling company, Harris Interactive, and the sponsor, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, presented the data in a highly misleading way — and then made false claims about the type of poll that had been conducted.


So, basically, they conducted a poll to get a specific result, then lied about the legitimacy of the poll.



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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2013, 09:23:34 PM »
Funny, I just read in Florida it's going to rise 40%. Face it, your boy is an unqualified idiot.

my boy?

let's ignore that for the moment

Florida premiums are going up because the Republican controlled state has not implemented the exchanges in any significant way

isn't that the part of what's being reported that you forgot to mention (or more likely didn't know)?

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/314443-florida-says-premiums-will-rise-30-40-under-obamacare


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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2013, 12:03:50 AM »
Health Premiums Up $3,065; Obama Vowed $2,500 Cut [promised to do so by end of first term]
yahoo.com/Investor's Business Daily ^ | September 24, 2012
Posted on August 2, 2013 2:41:40 AM EDT by grundle

During his first run for president, Barack Obama made one very specific promise to voters: He would cut health insurance premiums for families by $2,500, and do so in his first term.

But it turns out that family premiums have increased by more than $3,000 since Obama's vow, according to the latest annual Kaiser Family Foundation employee health benefits survey.

Premiums for employer-provided family coverage rose $3,065 — 24% — from 2008 to 2012, the Kaiser survey found. Even if you start counting in 2009, premiums have climbed $2,370.

What's more, premiums climbed faster in Obama's four years than they did in the previous four under President Bush, the survey data show.

There's no question about what Obama was promising the country, since he repeated it constantly during his 2008 campaign.

In a debate with Sen. John McCain, for example, Obama said "the only thing we're going to try to do is lower costs so that those cost savings are passed onto you. And we estimate we can cut the average family's premium by about $2,500 per year.

At a campaign stop in Columbus, Ohio, in February 2008, Obama promised that "We are going to work with you to lower your premiums by $2,500. We will not wait 20 years from now to do it, or 10 years from now to do it. We will do it by the end of my first term as president."

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2013, 04:12:29 AM »
Why am I not surprised that you would find a smiley face a brilliant response? I guess compared to most of the drivel you churn out, it does look that way.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/a-misleading-obamacare-poll-courtesy-of-the-chamber-of-commerce-and-harris-interactive/2013/07/30/26e5f51c-f94a-11e2-8e84-c56731a202fb_blog.html

A misleading ‘Obamacare’ poll, courtesy of the Chamber of Commerce and Harris Interactive

Cliffs:

Here, the polling company, Harris Interactive, and the sponsor, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, presented the data in a highly misleading way — and then made false claims about the type of poll that had been conducted.


So, basically, they conducted a poll to get a specific result, then lied about the legitimacy of the poll.



So when asked what you had to believe the data was misleading you post a quote from someone saying the same thing?

Give me the points there Albert

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2013, 06:01:30 AM »
So when asked what you had to believe the data was misleading you post a quote from someone saying the same thing?

Give me the points there Albert

No, dunderhead. I posted a link to an article detailing exactly how the survey was skewed. As the article is long,  and I knew it would therefore be difficult for you to comprehend, I pulled the quote that was most relevant to your question (in red). The line following that (in black) is a quick summary of the article. If you care for more detail, the text highlighted in blue is called a hyperlink. Most people are familiar with them, but I  I guess I have to explain how they work to you: click on hyperlink to go to story.

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Re: Obamacares Hindrance on the Economy Continues...
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2013, 06:02:33 AM »
No, dunderhead. I posted a link to an article detailing exactly how the survey was skewed. As the article is long,  and I knew it would therefore be difficult for you to comprehend, I pulled the quote that was most relevant to your question (in red). The line following that (in black) is a quick summary of the article. If you care for more detail, the text highlighted in blue is called a hyperlink. Most people are familiar with them, but I  I guess I have to explain how they work to you: click on hyperlink to go to story.

Why did Obama delay the Employer Mandate for a year again? 

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