ESPN article on Craze

[Parker]

we agree in principle. problem for me is I think they shouldn't have to illegally spike stuff to make it work. they should be allowed to sell the good shit.....1 test, eca, hdrol, superdrol....and regulate that effectively....as in DON'T sell it to 14 year olds.No internet sales...you want it, you go to vitamin shoppe, show your ID and buy it.

yes, exactly. This is what I think should happen. I wholeheartedly agree.

[Z Father]

 get some injectable methyl tren.

I found it gave me the most insane and painful pumps, insane aggression and forcefulness in the gym. i really enjoyed my deadlifts with methyl tren. 500mcg was good, but 1mg was where it got really good. 

googling it....ha ha

[The Abdominal Snoman]

When everything is deregulated, then there is no standard. I here what you are saying. But, if the supp industry had more regulation, then you wouldn't have shit like this. That goes for all of the supps, not just the performance enhancing products. I mean you have products sold thru Rite Aid/GNC that people are getting the shakes, heart palpitations, etc. And then there are the dietary supps...what do they conform to? Who regulates them?
Think of it like the gas you put in your car. There are regs or min. requirements correct? Same thing.

Now, there will always be the idiots where the bottle says "take two" and the person takes 4-6, and winds up in the hospital. You can't stop stupidity.

There not idiots...Speed is addicting...Everyone who gets hooked on speed is going to up the dosage...Gaspari and anyone else putting speed in their supps need to be put in prison...

[Red29]

googling it....ha ha

methyltrienolone is the technical name for those interested... its oral trenbolone. most liver toxic steroid aparently. i didnt notice any issues though. just amazing workouts (used it pre workout only)

[Z Father]

methyltrienolone is the technical name for those interested... its oral trenbolone. most liver toxic steroid aparently. i didnt notice any issues though. just amazing workouts (used it pre workout only)

the stuff I posted converts to trestolone acetate...whatever the fuck that is.

[Parker]

There not idiots...Speed is addicting...Everyone who gets hooked on speed is going to up the dosage...Gaspari and anyone else putting speed in their supps need to be put in prison...

no, what I meant by was the ephedra deaths. Like the Orioles baseball player and others. I think he just started taking it, and the bottle said 2, and he took more. You see this with people who do the NOxplode, and other supps. And even with the good shit---"up the dosage", when they have only been lifting for 1 month...and I do mean 1 month of first time lifting.

[Van_Bilderass]

It's worse than street speed or Adderal or whatever, since these analogues haven't been tested = no way to know how neurotoxic they might be.

It's essentially "bath salts" they are selling as supplements.

[Van_Bilderass]

the stuff I posted converts to trestolone acetate...whatever the fuck that is.

Big difference to methyltrienolone. Methyltrienolone is the stuff that's meant by "methyl tren".
I wouldn't trust any UG to properly dose a methyltrienolone product, or even trust them to have sourced the right compound.

[Red29]

the stuff I posted converts to trestolone acetate...whatever the fuck that is.

hmm ive heard good things about it myself actually. not entirely sure what it can be compared to though.

[Red29]

Big difference to methyltrienolone. Methyltrienolone is the stuff that's meant by "methyl tren".
I wouldn't trust any UG to properly dose a methyltrienolone product, or even trust them to have sourced the right compound.

id only trust one lab to have a legit proper dosed methyl tren product

[Z Father]

Big difference to methyltrienolone. Methyltrienolone is the stuff that's meant by "methyl tren".
I wouldn't trust any UG to properly dose a methyltrienolone product, or even trust them to have sourced the right compound.

yup.  it's just branding....nothing "tren" about it except it's dry gains and it's a.19 nor

shit works though....I'm over 240 ATM ...not as vascular as tren a...but hard as a rock.

I called someone a nig-nog a couple weeks ago and my GF punched me in the stomach and sprained her wrist


PS  he was white no racist.

[Red29]

yup.  it's just branding....nothing "tren" about it except it's dry gains and it's a.19 nor

shit works though....I'm over 240 ATM ...not as vascular as tren a...but hard as a rock.

I called someone a nig-nog a couple weeks ago and my GF punched me in the stomach and sprained her wrist


PS  he was white no racist.

nice. now add the tren a in!

[Z Father]

nice. now add the tren a in!

Coasting right now.  just ran 14 weeks of tren A ,  test prop

September I'm running this and tren.  fuck test. I hate it.  Every time I run test, I drop it halfway into the cycle. just makes me hold water. I dont care about the added size.  size I got.

I'm going to look into that trienolone though. maybe that instead.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I called someone a nig-nog a couple weeks ago and my GF punched me in the stomach and sprained her wrist


PS  he was white no racist.

lol

[Red29]

Coasting right now.  just ran 14 weeks of tren A ,  test prop

September I'm running this and tren.  fuck test. I hate it.  Every time I run test, I drop it halfway into the cycle. just makes me hold water. I dont care about the added size.  size I got.

I'm going to look into that trienolone though. maybe that instead.

its really liver toxic man id be careful. i got it more as a fun run kind of thing to use pre workout a couple times a week. i didnt notice any ill effects myself, but many have reported jaundice from it LOL. id run it again, but i think you'd be better off running some EQ or maybe primo if you can get legit stuff. a gram of either would be sick. ive run my fair share of EQ. my buddy joked that i was turning into a horse at one point 

why not just put your test real low, like shoot 50mg prop eod or something? i use half a cc of enanthate as my base test dose and i have no problems with bloat or water from the test. something like 50 prop EOD 300 Primo EOD and 200mg Tren EOD (not sure how high you run your tren). Shit id love to run that...

[Z Father]

its really liver toxic man id be careful. i got it more as a fun run kind of thing to use pre workout a couple times a week. i didnt notice any ill effects myself, but many have reported jaundice from it LOL. id run it again, but i think you'd be better off running some EQ or maybe primo if you can get legit stuff. a gram of either would be sick. ive run my fair share of EQ. my buddy joked that i was turning into a horse at one point 

why not just put your test real low, like shoot 50mg prop eod or something? i use half a cc of enanthate as my base test dose and i have no problems with bloat or water from the test. something like 50 prop EOD 300 Primo EOD and 200mg Tren EOD (not sure how high you run your tren). Shit id love to run that...

good advice....you know your stuff.

I'm gonna kick.shit around in my head.  I'm pretty mild...350 wk on tren a is a cycle for me.



That's why I always talk shit about running a serious cycle, but I. bitch out and just run tren again

[Roger Bacon]

When everything is deregulated, then there is no standard. I here what you are saying. But, if the supp industry had more regulation, then you wouldn't have shit like this. That goes for all of the supps, not just the performance enhancing products. I mean you have products sold thru Rite Aid/GNC that people are getting the shakes, heart palpitations, etc. And then there are the dietary supps...what do they conform to? Who regulates them?
Think of it like the gas you put in your car. There are regs or min. requirements correct? Same thing.

Now, there will always be the idiots where the bottle says "take two" and the person takes 4-6, and winds up in the hospital. You can't stop stupidity.

Maybe people should simply do their research before purchasing supplements? 

[Roger Bacon]

yes, exactly. This is what I think should happen. I wholeheartedly agree.

Okay, we're all pretty much on the same page here...

[arce1988]

 good thread

[ESFitness]

googling it....ha ha

good luck.

better off finding a local cook or doing it yourself. 1g will get you 200 bottles. lol.. just double check your measurements.

[Mawse]

Methly tren as in the actual drug or is this some kind of supplement? Actual Methylated tren is used to induce prostate cancer in lab rats so I'd not touch it, even if some Chinese labs ar producing it.

Parker, GTFO congress should stick to fixing the economy , upholding the consitution and stopping illegal wars not sending even more of us to jail for buying black market creatine

That article makes me sick, so much emotional sensationalist witch hunt stirring bullshit

[ESFitness]

Big difference to methyltrienolone. Methyltrienolone is the stuff that's meant by "methyl tren".
I wouldn't trust any UG to properly dose a methyltrienolone product, or even trust them to have sourced the right compound.

it's available. not hard to dose. if it's injectable it's probably gonna be .45-.5mg/ml, oral is .3-.35mg/ml usually. knowing that many guys will be impatient (no need with this stuff though) and take 2-3cc. if it was .5mg/ml that'd be 1.5mg, and with the supposed toxicity of this stuff, the likelihood of the customer getting sick would be too much risk. risk management on the suppliers part would limit customers (not middlemen) to purchasing no more than 4 in two months without seeing a copy of recent bloodwork/lft.... it's more work & probably unrealistic, but better safe than sorry. heaven forbid some guy gets sick and has liver failure and next thing you know he's pointing the finger at the source who sold him the shit.

[ESFitness]

Methly tren as in the actual drug or is this some kind of supplement? Actual Methylated tren is used to induce prostate cancer in lab rats so I'd not touch it, even if some Chinese labs ar producing it.

Parker, GTFO congress should stick to fixing the economy , upholding the consitution and stopping illegal wars not sending even more of us to jail for buying black market creatine

That article makes me sick, so much emotional sensationalist witch hunt stirring bullshit

congress has no business in business.

personal responsibility. too many lawyers and lawmakers and not enough engineers, scientists, and chemists.