Could one achieve a Zanelike body naturally.

[DanielPaul]

I know dryness is out as far as natural goes but body fat to muscle ratio using just the basics such as diet , hardcore training , and you basic sups .  Discuss

[BigRo]

Getting dry is possible for a natural.

However to the point, Frank Zane was genetically blessed with all the attributes needed yet he enhanced, so if someone like him enhanced his already blessed genetics and willpower to attain his Mr Olympia physique what does that say for the majority?

[MORTALCOIL]

Question makes no sense. Take one person, put him on a certain training/nutrition combo without androgenics and then with even a little androgenics: two widely different results. Let's not even talk T3 and diuretics. Nobody has the potential to have the BF/muscle ratio a guy like Zane had naturally as once you drop under a certain BF as a natural, you'll be losing muscle faster than a rabbit gets fucked. Not to mention you'll look as flat as a pancake also.

[Cleanest Natural]

as possible as the pope wearing the bunny suit...









































































































.... in public.

[DanielPaul]

I see what your saying, what I am looking for is a protocol of sorts, if someone wanted to try at least.  I know we have our share of dumb asses here but there is also a lot of wisdom through trial and error and I'd like advice on putting together a plan on getting there.

[Cleanest Natural]

I see what your saying, what I am looking for is a protocol of sorts, if someone wanted to try at least.  I know we have our share of dumb asses here but there is also a lot of wisdom through trial and error and I'd like advice on putting together a plan on getting there.

no way to come close to even half of the muscle and double the bodyfat level naturally

[bigmc]

I see what your saying, what I am looking for is a protocol of sorts, if someone wanted to try at least.  I know we have our share of dumb asses here but there is also a lot of wisdom through trial and error and I'd like advice on putting together a plan on getting there.

if you have elite genetics you could get close

zane was a lot bigger than people think

you look at some professional elite athletes

they look phenomenal they aren't all cheating

[CalvinH]

dji'llneverweight181 has been trying for years.

[Cleanest Natural]

any athlete that looks enough to grab your attention, uses plenty.

[dj181]

dji'llneverweight181 has been trying for years.

lol

should change my nick to djlessthanzero