but tyson did not have fraziers chin or heart.
tyson was exciting but whenever anyone stood up to him and wasn't intimidated he had no plan B
thats why foreman would have killed him
tyson admitted he would never have got in the ring with foreman as he scared him
You are right about the heart part il give you that then again who had more heart than a Joe frazier, but make no mistake his chin wasnt a Problem, the uppercutt Tony tucker in Particular hit him with (lifting tyson off his feet and stopping him in his tracks) didnt faze him 1 little bit, as did None of the Bombs a then Prime Razor Ruddock landed on Tyson again...and again...and again as was the 10 rounds of boobs Buster and Holyfeild bashed him with, as for Foreman....well like anything it could be looked at 2 ways, if a Prime George Foreman landed his Hardest bombs on Tyson....of course he would more than likey stop tyson, however imo...that would be a Post 1990 Mike Tyson...and thats a maybe...if we are talking a Prime Mike Tyson imo not likey, mainly for 2 Reasons...1...George had Terrible defence in his Prime years and for every huge punch George would throw he would get back 2 or 3 in Rapid fire from Tyson, Tyson would have no problem hitting George, 2...George would find a 1986-89 Mike ALOT harder too hit than Joe Frazier, and for every punch that would miss....Tyson would again be firing back with everything on them, imo.
i think the guy a Prime Tyson would have the BIGGEST problem with...would be a Prime 29-30 yr old LARRY HOLMES....mainly because he had @ his Best a Tighter Defence than Ali, had a Better right hand, had a Chin and Heart as good as Ali and had the smarts and ring craft too fuck with a Prime Tysons head...i rate Holmes over Ali against a Prime Tyson for 1 factor and 1 only....Defence....somet
hing imo....Tyson would catch Ali out with... Maybe....as for Foreman i dont think he would have a Issue with... due too geogre coming straight @ him and his Poor defence...again Tyson never had the great Joe Fraziers heart and Determination no argument there, however he had a Better, faster, hand-speed, foot-speed, defence, harder right hand...Uppercutts...body
shots...hooks 50/50 ether way, good chin etc etc
all these are just opinions @ the end of the day something we will all never agree on with anyway, im like most others here i grew up in Tysons era so naturally there will always be a slight bias towards Tyson most of us recalling watching his fights as they happened then, however too be real people saying Mike was Over rated really need too look alittle closer @ a prime version, for his time there had Never been ANYONE with his Combination of Handspeed, footspeed, head movement, Power with BOTH hands, defence...COMBINED... for a Heavyweight...that alone imo would of made him Dangerous for any Heavyweight in History...yes he fought Tomato cans....so did Foreman...so did Louis....so did Ali...so did Lewis....so did Frazier...so did Holmes....so did Marciano...in fact they ALL DID in their respective eras. the debate here isnt that Mike was the greatest of all time (the fact that he didnt come though his BIGGEST hurdles against Douglas, Holyfeild, Lewis etc) will ensure he will always be out of the Top spots, however make no Mistake @ his absolute best Tyson was Incredible like him, or hate him there was no one like him.