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My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« on: January 12, 2014, 01:22:28 PM »
This not a brag thread, there is a point to this so bear with me.

Ok so below are pics of me exactly last December:

No training, eating junk several times a day, home back from Vegas broke, total mess, drinking 3-4 times a week, depressed as fuck and lots of other shit I ain't getting into.

I was 115 kilos here, 253lb (in the shirtless pic I was actually 2 months into training was around 103 kilos 226lb, so already lost alot of weight there)

....more to come

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2014, 01:24:51 PM »
so in december in london when the temp is about zero

you are walking around in a shirt wearing an american hat
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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2014, 01:25:19 PM »
weren't you english?  ;D

geting home from vegas? did you cross the atlantic by truck and bought a hat in the south?  ;D

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2014, 01:26:00 PM »
Gross

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2014, 01:27:55 PM »
this isn't going to end well

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2014, 01:44:04 PM »
good job mofo !

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 01:44:15 PM »
terrific progress

well done mate
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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 01:45:59 PM »
Stopped reading after "...so bear with me"  :D

Great muscle!
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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2014, 01:52:25 PM »
Strong will.

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2014, 01:58:20 PM »
Great progress, gotta give props where they're required. But your biggest hurdle now is yourself - you need to be open to advices. You always seem a bit argumentative despite there being some prime advices given.

Keep up the good work but don't overtrain or overanalyze things. You've reached the point where you're going to encounter nothing but plateaus every few steps, and it will be very, very frustrating. Just keep plugging away without thinking too much and you'll clear them. And for the glucose intolerance, I really think you should drop your carbs big time. You'll find that your body will slowly adjust, it'll release insulin when appropriate and your blood sugar will be more balanced. If you can score some, look into metformin. Maybe your primary care physician can prescribe it. It'll really help out.

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2014, 02:04:41 PM »

Yes this is in December believe or not, was a sunny day we occasionally get them here, back from airport in the car had my jacket off!  :)

i live in the uk

whats with the hat

a hetero male in the uk would not be seen with such a thing on his barnet
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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2014, 02:10:26 PM »
Great progress, seriously. You're clearly Jewish which some people claim doesn't bode well for muscle gains.
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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2014, 02:17:23 PM »


First off thanks man, appreciate it.

I know I can lean out alot more dropping carbs super low....but.

a) I end up losing my libido
b) getting hairloss
c) feeling like shit all the time

.....AND just end up losing alot of muscle.

Like believe or not I can put on alot more muscle BUT I always end up getting fatter around the belly.

or when I drop carb's I kinda just end up getting skinny fat/lean/justin bieber look like below.  >:(


I think I must have the worlds worst gentics.

Look at what happens when I drop carbs really low:  :(

I have been constantly Yo Yoing up and down, trying to get it right. It's so fucking frustrating.





Just take it slowly and don't train so hard. You can do without the carbs, but the training intensity you've mentioned in previous posts sounds like a lot. I'm young and juiced and I wouldn't even train that hard. Our bodies can't handle that sort of stress. It takes a lot of time to build our bodies back up, a lot more time than it takes to wreck it in the gym. It sucks, but it's a fact we're all faced with. I WISH I could just train balls to the wall all day. It'd be a lot easier than dieting and taking time off from the gym.

I think if you scale back the training a bit you can scale back the carbs. We really need a very small amount, and once your glucose metabolism starts to improve you'll definitely see and feel this first hand. I didn't notice or appreciate my body until I permabulked for a while and actually got fat (I started my journey brutally skinny), so it was a foreign and difficult learning experience. Never been fat before so it was weird but insightful.

If you haven't checked into it already, I'm a big advocate of intermittent fasting. You don't have to follow the different protocols out there to a T, but my routine for example is to have a shake in the morning and just try fasting until dinner time. I work, then workout, then come home and eat a meal. I start feeling really weak after work, but as soon as the blood starts pumping in the gym I get energized again and the hunger pangs go away. I've found that this greatly improves insulin sensitivity (as proven by a blood glucose monitor that I used religiously), leans you up and keeps you energized.

With my eating regimen, if I feel I truly can't fast and I'm way too weak then I'll just eat. I don't subscribe to any cookie cutter routines, I just lay out a rough outline and do what I feel is right. If I'm hypoglycemic and need food, I'll just eat. If it's time to eat but I feel good when I'm fasting, I'll just push my meal out a bit further. I find that I can generally fast for about 14-16 hours before I need to eat. Then I'll eat inside about a 4-6 hour eating window and fast again. If I can, I'll fast even longer and shorten my eating window. But again, I do whatever I feel is right. I look in the mirror and I'm honest with myself. The thing I love about this is that it lets you become a lot more liberal with what you eat. I can eat shit if I'm fasting and I just get lean as fuck. But if I eat a few meals spread throughout the day, it has a stronger negative impact. It's not for everyone, but perhaps it may work for you. The key is finding whatever works for you. So maybe my advices are helpful or perhaps they're absolutely useless. Who knows? lol ;D

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2014, 02:17:58 PM »
No, it wasn't that hat. I just thought you looked Jewish here (and the north London connection). I am not one of the GB anti-Semites so cool if you were, but you aren't.. Anyway, the main point is that you look a lot better and a lot younger.

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2014, 02:22:35 PM »
how are you claiming natty when you are HGH?

also - the hat. please talk us through the thinking behind this. as you clearly weren't at a poker tournament in your car were you?

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2014, 02:29:44 PM »
This is excellent progress. Your man boobs are gone. Seriously......you don't need steroids yet.

You're way too fucking hard on yourself.

And keep the goatee off.

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2014, 02:34:37 PM »
You can go much farther before beginning gear dude......be serious hereyou have barely scratched the surface.

It`s up to you,but good progress thus far,and I still expect a current pis as per our deal.

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2014, 02:37:46 PM »
You can go much farther before beginning gear dude......be serious hereyou have barely scratched the surface.

It`s up to you,but good progress thus far,and I still expect a current pis as per our deal.

This!

HRT.....get on it and start training.

Why the fuck waste money on gear when you don't need it yet?

It's amazing what you've done in one year.

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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2014, 02:43:47 PM »
You aren't carb sensitive. You are retaining water. CarboHYDRATE. That's what carbohydrates do and are. Hence the name.


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Re: My 12 Month Natty Progress-Pic as promised for Wes & CN
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2014, 02:45:26 PM »
I once drooled on a girl's butt while I did her doggy style.
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