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christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« on: January 12, 2014, 10:23:29 PM »
lets say you are a beleiver

if you are christian you cannot say with 100 percent certainty that god is a straight forward god , a non bullshitter god. because

because that would imply every passage in the bible has serious meaningful meaning, everlasting TIMELESS MEANING, since the bible after all 'im guessing' is supposed to be the guide for all human lives?

. but when i read the bible, it will tell some stories scatterd along with some useful meaning here and there

but the stories themselfs are just like any other stories and arent really "teaching" anything . Then if we arent learning anything from these stories then what is the point? if they are just stories. why does the bible include long stories rather than just stick to the moral points only if it wants to "teach" us things?

most of these stories seem useless in terms of learning new tactics for life. why wouldnt god want to give us new tactics in the bible, or is he a trolling , joking god and doesnt want to teach us but instead confuse us??

thus if its seemingly useless then it must be a "code' since a christian cant confirm every passsage has a useful meaning. it could all be just coded after all? another possiblity, all options must be explored, we have alot of time in this life after all

was the bible even meant to have passage after passage of useful meaning or is it meant to be read as fiction

thus you see that god is not a straightfoward god, he is quite the riddler (implying the scripture is not coded and there is much fluff in the bible), Or trolling you into something more profound (implying the scripture is coded)

or the bible is totally made by man and is totally a fraud

or lastly the bible was made by satan himself THE WHOLE LIE BY BULL

ok then god knows you what you feel in your heart cause he made you

so he's testing us but to test something means he is NOT ominipotent or omnipresent correct or no? but the bible claims he is omnipotent

we have to consider many ways of looking at the bible and "god"

a-god might not exist
b-god exists but hes a confusing god on purpose his sense of humor is psychotic to us but 'normal' to him
c- god has coded the bible on purpose so that only a few get the whole picture. this will take superior dedication
d-god doesnt exist only satan does
e-knowlede isnt meant for everyon see example c
f- the bible is half true by god and  half fucked/edited by man
g- the bible is partial code, partial historical account, part edited, part wrong, part contradictory, part god , part man (because of the contradictions)


well its getting late i would keep on writing hope you enjoyed this post!
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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2014, 10:27:37 PM »
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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2014, 10:28:47 PM »
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some very interesting thoughts on this subject ^

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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2014, 10:32:32 PM »
The Christian God doesn't make sense if you examine Heme-Iron.

God creates all living things (animals included).
God creates animals that are made out of meat.
Cavemen have to consume meat to stay alive.
Eventually, Homo Sapiens still continue to consume meat very long after caveman die out.
Scientists begins to show us the dangers of meat consumption and heme iron and cancer.
If the Christian God knew man would be eating meat, he would not have made the animals to contain heme iron in them.
Therefore, either A) God is a Fallacy because he created an imperfect animal full of heme iron or B) God does not care about humans because he lets us eat meat that contains heme iron
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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2014, 11:03:50 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2014, 11:29:15 PM »
lets say you are a beleiver

if you are christian you cannot say with 100 percent certainty that god is a straight forward god , a non bullshitter god. because

because that would imply every passage in the bible has serious meaningful meaning, everlasting TIMELESS MEANING, since the bible after all 'im guessing' is supposed to be the guide for all human lives?

. but when i read the bible, it will tell some stories scatterd along with some useful meaning here and there

but the stories themselfs are just like any other stories and arent really "teaching" anything . Then if we arent learning anything from these stories then what is the point? if they are just stories. why does the bible include long stories rather than just stick to the moral points only if it wants to "teach" us things?

most of these stories seem useless in terms of learning new tactics for life. why wouldnt god want to give us new tactics in the bible, or is he a trolling , joking god and doesnt want to teach us but instead confuse us??

thus if its seemingly useless then it must be a "code' since a christian cant confirm every passsage has a useful meaning. it could all be just coded after all? another possiblity, all options must be explored, we have alot of time in this life after all

was the bible even meant to have passage after passage of useful meaning or is it meant to be read as fiction

thus you see that god is not a straightfoward god, he is quite the riddler (implying the scripture is not coded and there is much fluff in the bible), Or trolling you into something more profound (implying the scripture is coded)

or the bible is totally made by man and is totally a fraud

or lastly the bible was made by satan himself THE WHOLE LIE BY BULL

ok then god knows you what you feel in your heart cause he made you

so he's testing us but to test something means he is NOT ominipotent or omnipresent correct or no? but the bible claims he is omnipotent

we have to consider many ways of looking at the bible and "god"

a-god might not exist
b-god exists but hes a confusing god on purpose his sense of humor is psychotic to us but 'normal' to him
c- god has coded the bible on purpose so that only a few get the whole picture. this will take superior dedication
d-god doesnt exist only satan does
e-knowlede isnt meant for everyon see example c
f- the bible is half true by god and  half fucked/edited by man
g- the bible is partial code, partial historical account, part edited, part wrong, part contradictory, part god , part man (because of the contradictions)


well its getting late i would keep on writing hope you enjoyed this post!


cliffnotes?

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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 11:32:17 PM »
cliffnotes?

How do you condense the blathering ramblings of an idiot?

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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 11:35:19 PM »
I knew you would come around Falcon.

Religion is all bullshit.  Don`t waste your time with it. Plenty of other things to do.

By the way, I think I am ready to take you in Fight Night.

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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2014, 11:36:35 PM »
I knew you would come around Falcon.

Religion is all bullshit.  Don`t waste your time with it. Plenty of other things to do.


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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2014, 11:39:53 PM »
I knew you would come around Falcon.

Religion is all bullshit.  Don`t waste your time with it. Plenty of other things to do.

By the way, I think I am ready to take you in Fight Night.


True Adonis, I did read a study that religious people are happier and live longer when compared to secularists. What do you make of this?
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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2014, 01:44:05 AM »


True Adonis, I did read a study that religious people are happier and live longer when compared to secularists. What do you make of this?
Here is what I think of that-  ::) (I also think its a dumb to quantify if for any religion or non-religion for that matter, but I may as well post this....)

http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2013/09/religious-believers-more-depressed-than-atheists-study.html

Religious believers more depressed than atheists: study

The study, published in the October issue of Psychological Medicine but online now, followed more than 8,000 people in rural and urban areas in seven countries for one year. During the research, they were each examined at six- and 12-month intervals.



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Finally, the longest lived people happen to be Japanese and they are atheists.  So much for that claim.

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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2014, 05:11:07 AM »
johnny, read these next:









some very interesting thoughts on this subject ^

care to share? im not one for books, im a shortcut learner of peace
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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2014, 05:17:17 AM »
All religions base their teachings on rescuing individuals from pain and agony in this world and most people join them for this reason, not to mention promises of living forever. All BS.  ::)

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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2014, 05:19:40 AM »
I knew you would come around Falcon.

Religion is all bullshit.  Don`t waste your time with it. Plenty of other things to do.

By the way, I think I am ready to take you in Fight Night.
wether there be god or not i think the "intentions" for this human creation is to come to our own conclusions

and how we come to our own conclusions about anything and everything ....but my gueswork stops there

after that theres too much contradictory evidence for every 'personality type' of a god or a satan or a god that isnt here with us anymore and lastley athieism
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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2014, 05:21:01 AM »
care to share? im not one for books, im a shortcut learner of peace
You were just saying how you were reading the Bible, which is a book.
Read those books. That is how people have learned for centuries. There are no shortcuts to to questions that you ask, nor to those books.
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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2014, 05:41:57 AM »
Falcon, most stories/fables in the bible are littered with simple messages and is intended to keep order and the common man working hard and not complaining. Here is an example, In the bible it teaches that the poor shall inherit the kingdom of heaven.  Translation, don't kill or even hate the rich but take pity on them and get back to your back break labors. This is awesome stuff if you are educated and rich, total mind control.


The bible is a great tool in my opinion for controlling a large mass of people.  Why use force or coercion when you can indoctrinate at birth in ways to behave and think?  Time and time again history has shown that If you want to conquer a people send in a christian teachers.



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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2014, 05:45:15 AM »
You were just saying how you were reading the Bible, which is a book.
Read those books. That is how people have learned for centuries. There are no shortcuts to to questions that you ask, nor to those books.
If you want to get to Eagle level, then the Falcon is going to have to grow his wings.
just a harmless question bro u didnt have to send me to the principles office
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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2014, 05:54:46 AM »
just a harmless question bro u didnt have to send me to the principles office
haha, no paddling for you...

BTW, you can probably find those books for cheap at the local bookstore, or if a someone is giving away books.

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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2014, 05:59:33 AM »
haha, no paddling for you...

BTW, you can probably find those books for cheap at the local bookstore, or if a someone is giving away books.
you see i enjoy formats like this, online live forums. i like arguing point by point. see with a book , if i read something that i can logically breakdown, i want to speak about it with the author, because then i will have to keep reading from the authors logical fallacy then its just too much arguing about hypotheticals, sure thats what we do here alot but i dont normally encounter original thoughts, im sure its a good read but still u see what im saying bro?

what is your opinion of this musical video brother i think he shows some talent for peace

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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2014, 06:09:39 AM »
lets say you are a beleiver

if you are christian you cannot say with 100 percent certainty that god is a straight forward god , a non bullshitter god. because

because that would imply every passage in the bible has serious meaningful meaning, everlasting TIMELESS MEANING, since the bible after all 'im guessing' is supposed to be the guide for all human lives?

. but when i read the bible, it will tell some stories scatterd along with some useful meaning here and there

but the stories themselfs are just like any other stories and arent really "teaching" anything . Then if we arent learning anything from these stories then what is the point? if they are just stories. why does the bible include long stories rather than just stick to the moral points only if it wants to "teach" us things?

most of these stories seem useless in terms of learning new tactics for life. why wouldnt god want to give us new tactics in the bible, or is he a trolling , joking god and doesnt want to teach us but instead confuse us??

thus if its seemingly useless then it must be a "code' since a christian cant confirm every passsage has a useful meaning. it could all be just coded after all? another possiblity, all options must be explored, we have alot of time in this life after all

was the bible even meant to have passage after passage of useful meaning or is it meant to be read as fiction

thus you see that god is not a straightfoward god, he is quite the riddler (implying the scripture is not coded and there is much fluff in the bible), Or trolling you into something more profound (implying the scripture is coded)

or the bible is totally made by man and is totally a fraud

or lastly the bible was made by satan himself THE WHOLE LIE BY BULL

ok then god knows you what you feel in your heart cause he made you

so he's testing us but to test something means he is NOT ominipotent or omnipresent correct or no? but the bible claims he is omnipotent

we have to consider many ways of looking at the bible and "god"

a-god might not exist
b-god exists but hes a confusing god on purpose his sense of humor is psychotic to us but 'normal' to him
c- god has coded the bible on purpose so that only a few get the whole picture. this will take superior dedication
d-god doesnt exist only satan does
e-knowlede isnt meant for everyon see example c
f- the bible is half true by god and  half fucked/edited by man
g- the bible is partial code, partial historical account, part edited, part wrong, part contradictory, part god , part man (because of the contradictions)


well its getting late i would keep on writing hope you enjoyed this post!

I always find it amusing when a guy who never reads, doesn't have a degree, and in this case can't spell, decides to elucidate the intellectual world with his deep philosophical thoughts.

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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2014, 06:34:32 AM »
I always find it amusing when a guy who never reads, doesn't have a degree, and in this case can't spell, decides to elucidate the intellectual world with his deep philosophical thoughts.
i like how im disqualified from being an intellectual, care to battle
how much are you willing to wager, thats a pretty steep claim
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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2014, 08:16:02 AM »
lets say you are a beleiver

if you are christian you cannot say with 100 percent certainty that god is a straight forward god , a non bullshitter god. because

because that would imply every passage in the bible has serious meaningful meaning, everlasting TIMELESS MEANING, since the bible after all 'im guessing' is supposed to be the guide for all human lives?

. but when i read the bible, it will tell some stories scatterd along with some useful meaning here and there

but the stories themselfs are just like any other stories and arent really "teaching" anything . Then if we arent learning anything from these stories then what is the point? if they are just stories. why does the bible include long stories rather than just stick to the moral points only if it wants to "teach" us things?

most of these stories seem useless in terms of learning new tactics for life. why wouldnt god want to give us new tactics in the bible, or is he a trolling , joking god and doesnt want to teach us but instead confuse us??

thus if its seemingly useless then it must be a "code' since a christian cant confirm every passsage has a useful meaning. it could all be just coded after all? another possiblity, all options must be explored, we have alot of time in this life after all

was the bible even meant to have passage after passage of useful meaning or is it meant to be read as fiction

thus you see that god is not a straightfoward god, he is quite the riddler (implying the scripture is not coded and there is much fluff in the bible), Or trolling you into something more profound (implying the scripture is coded)

or the bible is totally made by man and is totally a fraud

or lastly the bible was made by satan himself THE WHOLE LIE BY BULL

ok then god knows you what you feel in your heart cause he made you

so he's testing us but to test something means he is NOT ominipotent or omnipresent correct or no? but the bible claims he is omnipotent

we have to consider many ways of looking at the bible and "god"

a-god might not exist
b-god exists but hes a confusing god on purpose his sense of humor is psychotic to us but 'normal' to him
c- god has coded the bible on purpose so that only a few get the whole picture. this will take superior dedication
d-god doesnt exist only satan does
e-knowlede isnt meant for everyon see example c
f- the bible is half true by god and  half fucked/edited by man
g- the bible is partial code, partial historical account, part edited, part wrong, part contradictory, part god , part man (because of the contradictions)


well its getting late i would keep on writing hope you enjoyed this post!


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Re: christain god and christian bible dont make sense
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2014, 08:36:35 AM »
Religion and it's various texts are a very interesting but dangerous dogma.
I think that there's a "divine" source that bore such notions and on the other hand people who wanted to have supreme influence.
I personally prefer religious people who bear sanity(a few) over nihilists and casual atheists because former are spiritually stronger and assimilated intrinsic order.

On the bad side religion promotes OCDs and can be a potent enemy of joy and letting go... it's a fine line.

The worship of enlightenment and Lucifer is a way better option than following a mercyful, needy, totalitarian and jealous god.

Btw, the god of the Qurrrr'an is not the same as the god of the bible.
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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2014, 08:56:11 AM »
Here is what I think of that-  ::) (I also think its a dumb to quantify if for any religion or non-religion for that matter, but I may as well post this....)

http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2013/09/religious-believers-more-depressed-than-atheists-study.html

Religious believers more depressed than atheists: study

The study, published in the October issue of Psychological Medicine but online now, followed more than 8,000 people in rural and urban areas in seven countries for one year. During the research, they were each examined at six- and 12-month intervals.



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Finally, the longest lived people happen to be Japanese and they are atheists.  So much for that claim.

Good post! I think religious ppl often think they are happier and more content than atheists.
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